DougJamie Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 Just thought i would balance this up ... bombing the "safe " roads... killing innocent woman and children.. Israeli regime is terriorist ... lets see how the west and UN view this.... Putin must be laughing his ass off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Didn't realise Edited October 14, 2023 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Wrong thread Edited October 14, 2023 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) Silly me Edited October 14, 2023 by shull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 After Israel reassured Palestinians a safe journey south, their aircraft attacked and killed dozens. The Israeli human rights organisation B'tselem has statistics showing more than 10 times Palestinian deaths than Israeli deaths since 2008. Who's the biggest terrorist? Why should Palestinians suffer and lose their land because of European anti-semitism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 14, 2023 Report Share Posted October 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, Jockmd said: After Israel reassured Palestinians a safe journey south, their aircraft attacked and killed dozens. The Israeli human rights organisation B'tselem has statistics showing more than 10 times Palestinian deaths than Israeli deaths since 2008. Who's the biggest terrorist? Why should Palestinians suffer and lose their land because of European anti-semitism? While the first 3 sentences have some merit the last sentence seems to totally avoid the massacre of innocent civilians last weekend? Hamas did not have the ability, or resources, to carry out last weekend's attack on their own and, IMO, shows no thought or respect, for the obvious consequences that are currently being carried out by Israel. So, Hamas have escalated this to the current fcuking mess, not discounting the well documented atrocities carried out by both sides in recent years. A clusterfcuk, Hamas and the Israeli government seem to have allowed deep seated hatred to become more important than looking for a peaceful solution. The Northern Island situation seemed to be similar with no end in sight and it took considerable strength by all sides to accept historic f**k ups had to be put aside to allow peace for the future. It's tragic that the public are the biggest losers in this situation, as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 An article published on 21st August......................making it very clear that BOTH sides are cnuts. https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15390.doc.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 I thought the Labour Party conference finished last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 21 hours ago, faraway saint said: While the first 3 sentences have some merit the last sentence seems to totally avoid the massacre of innocent civilians last weekend? Hamas did not have the ability, or resources, to carry out last weekend's attack on their own and, IMO, shows no thought or respect, for the obvious consequences that are currently being carried out by Israel. So, Hamas have escalated this to the current fcuking mess, not discounting the well documented atrocities carried out by both sides in recent years. A clusterfcuk, Hamas and the Israeli government seem to have allowed deep seated hatred to become more important than looking for a peaceful solution. The Northern Island situation seemed to be similar with no end in sight and it took considerable strength by all sides to accept historic f**k ups had to be put aside to allow peace for the future. It's tragic that the public are the biggest losers in this situation, as usual. "the last sentence seems to totally avoid the massacre of innocent civilians last weekend?" Your interpretation is devoid of understanding. Zionism is a political nationalist ideology and is based upon European anti-semitism which eventually created a Jewish state. I entirely agree with that but there is one major caveat - not at the expense of another people as in this case, the Palestinians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 15, 2023 Report Share Posted October 15, 2023 This thread is verging on being antisemitic and should probably be closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 This thread is verging on being antisemitic and should probably be closed. Condemning the actions of the Israeli government is not antisemitic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Slarti said: 8 hours ago, ALBIONSAINT said: This thread is verging on being antisemitic and should probably be closed. Condemning the actions of the Israeli government is not antisemitic. Unfortunately the lines have been blurred, deliberately. You apparently cannot condemn Israel's actions without being called antisemetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1713158008232894694?s=20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slarti Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 Unfortunately the lines have been blurred, deliberately. You apparently cannot condemn Israel's actions without being called antisemetic.You can be called it, doesn't mean you are. It's just an attempt at stopping criticism, and not a very clever one. The fact that some folk fall for it says a lot more about the intelligence of they folk than it does about the validity of the argument.On top of that, no religion should be exempt from criticism. Bad ideas/actions should be called out no matter their origin. And this whole situation is rooted in religion - on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Slarti said: You can be called it, doesn't mean you are. It's just an attempt at stopping criticism, and not a very clever one. The fact that some folk fall for it says a lot more about the intelligence of they folk than it does about the validity of the argument. On top of that, no religion should be exempt from criticism. Bad ideas/actions should be called out no matter their origin. And this whole situation is rooted in religion - on both sides. Does it? So are the folks at the Guardian a bit dim? I was giving a hint that the content of the thread could be construed as antisemitic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 I believe in free speech but just be careful ……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Does it? So are the folks at the Guardian a bit dim? I was giving a hint that the content of the thread could be construed as antisemitic. I don't know what the cartoon was so I can't comment on it. The Guardian have possibly just bowed to pressure and a potential backlash, rather than actually believe it is anti-Semitic. If they do believe it then, yes, they aren't very intelligent. I haven't seen anything in this thread that could realistically be construed as anti-semitic. Even the title isn't anti-semitic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmettroll Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W6er Posted October 16, 2023 Report Share Posted October 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, Helmettroll said: I didn't like the reference to the Bible, but... 🤣 and also true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted October 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 So the Israeli terriorists kill 500 targeting a hospital.. wonder if Biden will slap their wrists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, DougJamie said: So the Israeli terriorists kill 500 targeting a hospital.. wonder if Biden will slap their wrists If there was any doubt about Israel's violations of international humanitarian laws, their rocketing of a hospital and school in Gaza should end their perennial impunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted October 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jockmd said: If there was any doubt about Israel's violations of international humanitarian laws, their rocketing of a hospital and school in Gaza should end their perennial impunity. But the west thinks it ok.. one rule and all that... need that Israeli dictator taken out ...along with Hamas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 IF this latest atrocity is laid at Israel's door the world's leaders who have been vindicating their offensive MUST class this as a war crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted October 17, 2023 Report Share Posted October 17, 2023 The explosive power of Hamas rockets doesn't come anywhere near the power to destroy a whole hospital. Clearly it was Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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