Guest Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, Scott-Leeds said: Czech game - Good performance, plenty chances created , no end product and Marshall went AWOL killing the game England game - Rode our luck early on , created good chances , no end product, could have won but the draw about fair Croatia game - No stand out Scottish performance whatsoever, outplayed by a better team Glaringly obvious Dykes/Adams after 3 games is not producing goals - substitution should have been at halftime , bringing Nisbet on with less than 10 minutes was laughable and pointless However, positives ? We finally made it back to the ‘Big stage’ , played well, showed overseas we have improved and there’s definitely a really good core and future ahead Goal-scorers required urgently Nisbet is never an international player in his life. Had a decent season at club level but is absolute miles away from any other level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Completely deflated after that. Feel the big players let Clarke down somewhat last night but also bitterly disappointed at our tactics, failure to change them and timing of our substitutes. Can understand the decision to play Armstrong but part of me wanted to see a slight shuffle in midfield and go for it with Turnbull in the boiler-room. A cakewalk for a Croatia team that didn't need to come out of second gear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Completely deflated after that. Feel the big players let Clarke down somewhat last night but also bitterly disappointed at our tactics, failure to change them and timing of our substitutes. Can understand the decision to play Armstrong but part of me wanted to see a slight shuffle in midfield and go for it with Turnbull in the boiler-room. A cakewalk for a Croatia team that didn't need to come out of second gear. Is it just me or does McGinn flatter to decive every time. Sticks his arse out then spins and does a dive to the ground. Brings a bit of dig but also seems miles off it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, God of war said: Is it just me or does McGinn flatter to decive every time. Sticks his arse out then spins and does a dive to the ground. Brings a bit of dig but also seems miles off it. Don't think it's fair to say every time but he blows hot and cold for Scotland for sure. Last night was probably the worst performance I've seen from him in a long time, just when we needed a big one as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Basic skills missing. mcTominay. mcginn & Armstrong all overran the ball when in good positions. Basic touch missing. We could do with a few young players going abroad and learning to play their way. Boy in Portugal has done this but totally ignored. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 hours ago, God of war said: Is it just me or does McGinn flatter to decive every time. Sticks his arse out then spins and does a dive to the ground. Brings a bit of dig but also seems miles off it. McGinn should have been man marking Modric ,I feel the Manager has let down these boys ,wrong teams wrong tactics in the Czech and Croatia games ,got it spot on in the England game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabuddies Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, God of war said: Is it just me or does McGinn flatter to decive every time. Sticks his arse out then spins and does a dive to the ground. Brings a bit of dig but also seems miles off it. It's just you, given his performances and the interest in him from several bigger clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Against Austria and Israel and Czech Republic we play one up front, then against a team who played in the world cup final 2 year ago we play two upfront,, really don't get that, this just wasn't the game to play 2 strikers, tells me it wasn't just the fans who were getting carried away.. McTominay in defence [caught ball watching at their first goal] when we have Gallagher, McKenna and Cooper what must these guys be thinking. Hitting long balls to Dykes who's first touch was shocking. Football from a bygone era, he's not the answer he's not a goalscorer, last 15 games nine of them we haven't scored a goal The manager got this game all wrong IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Against Austria and Israel and Czech Republic we play one up front, then against a team who played in the world cup final 2 year ago we play two upfront,, really don't get that, this just wasn't the game to play 2 strikers, tells me it wasn't just the fans who were getting carried away.. McTominay in defence [caught ball watching at their first goal] when we have Gallagher, McKenna and Cooper what must these guys be thinking. Hitting long balls to Dykes who's first touch was shocking. Football from a bygone era, he's not the answer he's not a goalscorer, last 15 games nine of them we haven't scored a goal The manager got this game all wrong IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Is that it Mourinho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanleySaint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Against Austria and Israel and Czech Republic we play one up front, then against a team who played in the world cup final 2 year ago we play two upfront,, really don't get that, this just wasn't the game to play 2 strikers, tells me it wasn't just the fans who were getting carried away.. McTominay in defence [caught ball watching at their first goal] when we have Gallagher, McKenna and Cooper what must these guys be thinking. Hitting long balls to Dykes who's first touch was shocking. Football from a bygone era, he's not the answer he's not a goalscorer, last 15 games nine of them we haven't scored a goal The manager got this game all wrong IMO Given that we needed to win last night and the number of folk indicating none of our strikers are prolific I would have said it was precisely the right game to play 2 strikers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 We were in trouble when Marshall was deemed as our playmaker. We played too deep and gave their midfield too much space. Our shape and tactics were all wrong. But our manager has one way of playing and doesn't change. If plan A isn't working then its they aren't doing it well enough. Clarke made a few errors last night and was too loyal to some players who weren't doing it for him. Got to be ruthless in the management game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, windae cleaner said: We were in trouble when Marshall was deemed as our playmaker. We played too deep and gave their midfield too much space. Our shape and tactics were all wrong. But our manager has one way of playing and doesn't change. If plan A isn't working then its they aren't doing it well enough. Clarke made a few errors last night and was too loyal to some players who weren't doing it for him. Got to be ruthless in the management game It's very difficult to play further up when they have, and retain, possession so well. You don't take Kilmarnock to 3rd in the league if you're a one trick pony, you only need to look much closer to home to see a manager closer to that description. Clarke makes changes as much, or as quick, as any decent manager. These players DID it for him in getting us there and almost snatching a win against England. We were beaten by a better team, no doubt, and we don't have anyone who can take half chances, McGinns chance being the most glaring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Stayed away last night as I was too ensconced in the game. Wow!! That Renfrew156 guy is like 5 year old wean 🤣. And he appears to have a massive hard on for the TA who according to him appear to be the only set of fans who dare to enjoy themselves when they go to away games. Anyone thinking that just because Croatia might not be quite the team that got to the World Cup final, meant that we ought to be on a par with them is mental. They were streets ahead of us last night. This wasn’t your typical Scottish disaster/f**k up. We just lost to a much better team on the night. I’m nowhere near as disappointed as I’d normally be under these circumstances. Sometimes you’ve just got to accept you’re not quite there yet. I’ve got high hopes for our young squad and I see a bright future. At the moment we’ve got the makings of a decent side but we urgently need to fill some gaps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 EH Just looked at this on my phone, now I know why you said that. Shows ok on the laptop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, StanleySaint said: 6 hours ago, portmahomack saint said: Against Austria and Israel and Czech Republic we play one up front, then against a team who played in the world cup final 2 year ago we play two upfront,, really don't get that, this just wasn't the game to play 2 strikers, tells me it wasn't just the fans who were getting carried away.. McTominay in defence [caught ball watching at their first goal] when we have Gallagher, McKenna and Cooper what must these guys be thinking. Hitting long balls to Dykes who's first touch was shocking. Football from a bygone era, he's not the answer he's not a goalscorer, last 15 games nine of them we haven't scored a goal The manager got this game all wrong IMO Given that we needed to win last night and the number of folk indicating none of our strikers are prolific I would have said it was precisely the right game to play 2 strikers? How did it go then ? Are you forgetting Croatia had to win too, we were overran in midfield where the game is won or lost at this level, it was totally naive we played right into their hands 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, portmahomack saint said: How did it go then ? Are you forgetting Croatia had to win too, we were overran in midfield where the game is won or lost at this level, it was totally naive we played right into their hands ^^^^^^^ The usual simpleton approach, even although we had 5 in midfield and Croatia played 4-3-3. What a clown. 🤡 Maybe Croatia are just a better team......................that simple enough for you? Edited June 24, 2021 by faraway saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 ^^^^^^^ The usual simpleton approach, even although we had 5 in midfield and Croatia played 4-3-3. What a clown. Maybe Croatia are just a better team......................that simple enough for you? It actually went wrong because Clarke never had you, me and the Biscuit Muncher in the team.That way nobody would feel deflated as there would have been absolutely no expectation of qualification. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 The modern game is all about keeping possession, mcGinn and to a lesser extent McTominay struggle with that ,but in Hendry ,Gilmour ,McGregor, Paterson,McLean ,Teirny and Nisbet and Adams we have ability to play good football on the ground. Need a keeper who is also comfortable with the ball at his feet . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, faraway saint said: ^^^^^^^ The usual simpleton approach, even although we had 5 in midfield and Croatia played 4-3-3. What a clown. 🤡 Maybe Croatia are just a better team......................that simple enough for you? Shut up you idiot, I told you you know nothing about football stick to the other threads, Croatia played with 5 midfielders we played 3 and got steamrollered did it not register with you why David Marshall was bypassing the midfield and kept kicking up to Dykes who's 2nd touch was a tackle Football from a bygone era and it needs to change, Edited June 24, 2021 by portmahomack saint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Shut up you idiot, I told you you know nothing about football stick to the other threads, Croatia played with 5 midfielders we played 3 and got steamrollered did it not register with you why David Marshall was bypassing the midfield and kept kicking up to Dykes who's 2nd touch was a tackle Football from a bygone era and it needs to change, No they didn't and no we didn't. Stick to what you're good at..........................what is that exactly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Shut up you idiot, I told you you know nothing about football stick to the other threads, Croatia played with 5 midfielders we played 3 and got steamrollered did it not register with you why David Marshall was bypassing the midfield and kept kicking up to Dykes who's 2nd touch was a tackle Football from a bygone era and it needs to change, Croatia line up...............if you run out of fingers give me a shout............... Scotland line up..................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 53 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: Shut up you idiot, I told you you know nothing about football stick to the other threads, Croatia played with 5 midfielders we played 3 and got steamrollered did it not register with you why David Marshall was bypassing the midfield and kept kicking up to Dykes who's 2nd touch was a tackle Football from a bygone era and it needs to change, England beat them by playing their own style, nothing close to Croatia's style. At the end of the day it comes down to one set of players being better than another. We will never change to Croatia style of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenziebud Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Croatia line up...............if you run out of fingers give me a shout............... Scotland line up..................... Imagine setting your team up 4-3-3 just not modern thinking 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfrew156 Posted June 24, 2021 Report Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) Edited June 24, 2021 by renfrew156 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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