Cumbriansaint72 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, delpierro said: Within 2-3 secs they pressured our defender on the ball. Whereas, we allowed them to waltz uo to our 18yrd box unchallenged. Most of Croatia play revolves around modric, so why the hell not try and mark him out the game, etc. It's not as though he is a young up and coming player, he's been about for a long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, Cumbriansaint72 said: Most of Croatia play revolves around modric, so why the hell not try and mark him out the game, etc. It's not as though he is a young up and coming player, he's been about for a long time. It didn't really, the goal apart he was in/out of the game, they have quite a few other players who can play football. A decision/gamble to try, many have tried/failed to mark him out of the game. More to do with us not doing enough WHEN we had the ball, a couple of our players were off the boil, TBH hard to pick any who were outstanding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) McGinn really hurting, this will stand him, and a few others, in good stead. We are, IMO, about 2-3 players away from having a better team. Gilmour WILL become more important, Patterson showed enough to suggest he's a potential addition to our right side. We already have a strong left side. Feck it, let ourselves down in the 1st game, well deserved point against the English and outdone tonight. PS Easily forgotten we missed Tierney big time in the 1st game, although he was quiet tonight. Edited June 22, 2021 by faraway saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, faraway saint said: McGinn really hurting, this will stand him, and a few others, in good stead. We are, IMO, about 2-3 players away from having a better team. Gilmour WILL become more important, Patterson showed enough to suggest he's a potential addition to our right side. We already have a strong left side. Feck it, let ourselves down in the 1st game, well deserved point against the English and outdone tonight. PS Easily forgotten we missed Tierney big time in the 1st game, although he was quiet tonight. We lack the rarest skill of all - the ability to score goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, magnus said: We lack the rarest skill of all - the ability to score goals. Indeed, as do many teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: It didn't really, the goal apart he was in/out of the game, they have quite a few other players who can play football. A decision/gamble to try, many have tried/failed to mark him out of the game. More to do with us not doing enough WHEN we had the ball, a couple of our players were off the boil, TBH hard to pick any who were outstanding. Indeed As Strachan said post match Croatia midfield had best game in two years and trying to man mark a player lessens Scotland too with a essentially man out Scotland side too A lesson learned tonight for players and fans Edited June 22, 2021 by alanb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Indeed, as do many teams. Just not at the very highest level. Great effort but outclassed tonight by a very good side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, magnus said: Just not at the very highest level. Great effort but outclassed tonight by a very good side. We're not at the highest level. We're 44th in the world rakings in a group that had the world number 4, 16 and (not much in it) 40. As I've said, we were unlucky to lose the first game, didn't deserve to win it, deserved a point, at least, against England, and were, ultimately, well beaten tonight. In the bigger picture we're moving in the right direction. Again, Gilmour and Patterson are good additions, aye, we could do with a striker who scores 20+ goals a year, not many about, certainly at this level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[email protected] Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Well beaten and confirmed how over rated this team was. Clarke will be allowed to take us to World Cup elimination before being dismissed. The so called big players were badly found out tonight and as before, nothing up front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: Most of Croatia play revolves around modric, so why the hell not try and mark him out the game, etc. It's not as though he is a young up and coming player, he's been about for a long time. We were never going to mark him out the game he's to good, but we should have at least tried to mark him and stopped the easy pass to him and not giving him the time and space, no wonder he tore us a new one. we constantly left him free to receive the ball especially Armstrong who wandered off him umpteen times and just before he scored. We gave the ball away far too easily you can't do that against this team. This game more than the other 2 we needed wee Billy Gilmore to help us keep the ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, portmahomack saint said: We were never going to mark him out the game he's to good, but we should have at least tried to mark him and stopped the easy pass to him and not giving him the time and space, no wonder he tore us a new one. we constantly left him free to receive the ball especially Armstrong who wandered off him umpteen times and just before he scored. We gave the ball away far too easily you can't do that against this team. This game more than the other 2 we needed wee Billy Gilmore to help us keep the ball. Really missed Gilmore. Armstrong didn't have a good game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfrew156 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, faraway saint said: We're not at the highest level. We're 44th in the world rakings in a group that had the world number 4, 16 and (not much in it) 40. As I've said, we were unlucky to lose the first game, didn't deserve to win it, deserved a point, at least, against England, and were, ultimately, well beaten tonight. In the bigger picture we're moving in the right direction. Again, Gilmour and Patterson are good additions, aye, we could do with a striker who scores 20+ goals a year, not many about, certainly at this level. are we back below kazakhstan Looking forward to Copenhagen in September, ♪♫ We'll be fleeing We'll be Steaming down the Road ♪♫ Edited June 22, 2021 by renfrew156 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 It's easily forgotten that McGinn missed a decent chance at 1-1, wrong foot, unlike Moderic. 3 minutes ago, renfrew156 said: are we back below kazakhstan You're funny. 🤡 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddymarvellous Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, magnus said: Really missed Gilmore. Armstrong didn't have a good game. His name is Gilmour - you’re listening to too many English pronunciations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Buddymarvellous said: His name is Gilmour - you’re listening to too many English pronunciations. The anchor-man on STV couldn't pronounce "equaliser".............................. His version was "eekaliser" Twice. Edited June 22, 2021 by faraway saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Buddymarvellous said: His name is Gilmour - you’re listening to too many English pronunciations. Fek sake. Dont know why I am spelling it like that. Happy Gilmore maybe 🤪 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfrew156 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, [email protected] said: Well beaten and confirmed how over rated this team was. Clarke will be allowed to take us to World Cup elimination before being dismissed. The so called big players were badly found out tonight and as before, nothing up front. Next game away to Denmark who are having a good tournament and are arguably a superior team to Scotland So if 10,000 Tartan Army go to Copenhagen for this game, tell me are they there for the football or an excuse for a piss up? Edited June 22, 2021 by renfrew156 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, renfrew156 said: Next game away to Denmark who are having a good tournament and are arguably a superior team to Scotland So if 10,000 Tartan Army go to Copenhagen for this game, tell me are they there for the football or an excuse for a piss up? Nobody answered you the first 4 times, what makes you expect one this time? On a st mirren forum asking if fans are going for the football. Am I being wooshed here? 😂 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfrew156 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, slapsalmon said: Nobody answered you the first 4 times, what makes you expect one this time? On a st mirren forum asking if fans are going for the football. Am I being wooshed here? 😂 ♪♫ We'll be fleeing We'll be Steaming down the Road ♪♫ ♪♫ Yes Sir We Can Buggerit ♪♫ Edited June 22, 2021 by renfrew156 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delpierro Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Most of Croatia play revolves around modric, so why the hell not try and mark him out the game, etc. It's not as though he is a young up and coming player, he's been about for a long time. Thatts got f**k all to do with pressing a defence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Johnny Rocks Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 I know it wouldn't have reached the players, probably! but the over confidence of most of the 'Tartan Army' and many of the pundits on TV and radio was staggering..... writing Croatia off as over the hill duffers, well past their best. My goodness they even had well known football expert Val McDermitt on last night before the game telling us Croatia peaked 3 years ago and that their players were in the "winter of their career" Modric? who's Modric? ah yes, that oul' fla. The manager could have shuffled the pack, altered formartion, man marked Modric but the outcome would have been the same. Well, unless we had got that f**king bit of luck and bounce of the ball we have NEVER had in the finals we have reached. Never once.....unlike Wales, Norn Irn ad Rep of Ireland. It was like instant replay dejavous all over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 As if it wasn't obvious but the lack of a REAL world class player has cost us again. The 2nd Czech goal, the Modric goal, just two examples of finishing that we simply don't possess anywhere in the team. On the plus side we do have some players who we can look to see us improve for the next few years. Nothing else for it, pick ourselves up and keep improving. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 Czech game - Good performance, plenty chances created , no end product and Marshall went AWOL killing the game England game - Rode our luck early on , created good chances , no end product, could have won but the draw about fairCroatia game -No stand out Scottish performance whatsoever, outplayed by a better team Glaringly obvious Dykes/Adams after 3 games is not producing goals - substitution should have been at halftime , bringing Nisbet on with less than 10 minutes was laughable and pointless However, positives ? We finally made it back to the ‘Big stage’ , played well, showed overseas we have improved and there’s definitely a really good core and future ahead Goal-scorers required urgently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 23, 2021 Report Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Scott-Leeds said: Czech game - Good performance, plenty chances created , no end product and Marshall went AWOL killing the game England game - Rode our luck early on , created good chances , no end product, could have won but the draw about fair Croatia game - No stand out Scottish performance whatsoever, outplayed by a better team Glaringly obvious Dykes/Adams after 3 games is not producing goals - substitution should have been at halftime , bringing Nisbet on with less than 10 minutes was laughable and pointless However, positives ? We finally made it back to the ‘Big stage’ , played well, showed overseas we have improved and there’s definitely a really good core and future ahead Goal-scorers required urgently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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