faraway saint Posted September 8, 2019 Report Posted September 8, 2019 8 hours ago, munoz said: Arbroath for the title. Aww naw, that would be another team that I support. 😆 Handy for home games right enough. Quote
faraway saint Posted September 8, 2019 Report Posted September 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, cockles1987 said: Aye, if you got free hospitality Obviously ya walloper. 😂 Quote
shull Posted September 17, 2019 Author Report Posted September 17, 2019 SUNDERLAND 1 ROTHERHAM 1 Quote
shull Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Posted September 21, 2019 BOLTON 1 SUNDERLAND 1 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/sunderland-fans-turn-jack-ross-16959400 Quote
gstretchuk Posted September 22, 2019 Report Posted September 22, 2019 Absolutely loving seeing judas fail, thought he was gods gift to football management. Will prob try to worm his way out now for another job. Quote
St.Ricky Posted September 22, 2019 Report Posted September 22, 2019 I can't say that I would shed tears for him if he, his Assistant and goalkeeping coach lost out after the way in which they left but never good to see people lose their jobs. Quote
proudtobeabuddy Posted September 22, 2019 Report Posted September 22, 2019 i hope Jack gets by this difficult period and gets promoted with Sunderland. He won us the league and was our best manger in a long long time. Quote
Seaside Nipper Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 Aye, the Mackems are United in one thing , they want Ross bagged.................... Ross at full-time Page 3 RTG Sunderland Message Boards.url Quote
Lord Pityme Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 One loss in nine, three points off second, two wins off the top. f**k me its disaster for Ross. Lol Be interesting to compare ours and Sunderland's fortunes come the end of October? Quote
faraway saint Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: One loss in nine, three points off second, two wins off the top. f**k me its disaster for Ross. Lol Be interesting to compare ours and Sunderland's fortunes come the end of October? Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league. He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. Quote
Lord Pityme Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, faraway saint said: Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league. He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. I'd take the draws for us, rather than than the "unlucky" defeats! Jack Draws will mould his team and start to pull away from the pack. He's had one season where the club have been offloading the 30-40000 a week players, now he has a chance to settle in a team. Nearly promoted in his first season and in a cup final... yeah we are faring so much better in the fecking playoffs and being unable to beat non league teams! Quote
faraway saint Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said: I'd take the draws for us, rather than than the "unlucky" defeats! Jack Draws will mould his team and start to pull away from the pack. He's had one season where the club have been offloading the 30-40000 a week players, now he has a chance to settle in a team. Nearly promoted in his first season and in a cup final... yeah we are faring so much better in the fecking playoffs and being unable to beat non league teams! Time will tell, if he gets the chance to finish the league campaign. Drawing with the team at he bottom of the league doesn't look like a manager you're describing. Even he admitted he had failed last season. As for us, what's that got to do with Ross? Quote
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, faraway saint said: Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league. He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. Quote
shull Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. Quote
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, shull said: f**k! Didn’t realise I had wandered into the asylum. Straight back out for me. Glad you’ve been missing me though. Responded within 10 seconds. Tatty bye loser. Quote
shull Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: f**k! Didn’t realise I had wandered into the asylum. Straight back out for me. Glad you’ve been missing me though. Responded within 10 seconds. Tatty bye loser. Shouldn't even reply to you as you are everything on the list Don't hurry back Quote
faraway saint Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team. That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about. While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage. Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. # Team sum Matches average 1 Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360 2 Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230 3 Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978 4 Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838 5 Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466 6 Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701 7 Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695 8 Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637 9 Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442 10 Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292 11 Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133 12 Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047 13 Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861 14 Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202 15 Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996 16 Southend United 23.563 4 5.891 17 Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452 18 Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233 19 AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302 20 Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042 21 Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907 22 Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180 23 Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741 overall 856.303 103 8.314 Edited September 23, 2019 by faraway saint Quote
Cornwall_Saint Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 I’m with Faraway on this. I want JR to do well down south. He’s done a great job of building a side who rarely lose. However the draws are costing them, and that will be his downfall. They should have eased to the title last season, and they should be doing so again this season (or at the very least, getting promoted). I know he had some squad building and sorting to do when he started there, but they are a massive club in a small pond, and these draws will be the end of him. I really hope he can change it soon, but something just doesn’t seem to be clicking to turn the draws to wins. Quote
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, faraway saint said: The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team. That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about. While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage. Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. # Team sum Matches average 1 Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360 2 Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230 3 Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978 4 Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838 5 Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466 6 Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701 7 Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695 8 Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637 9 Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442 10 Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292 11 Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133 12 Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047 13 Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861 14 Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202 15 Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996 16 Southend United 23.563 4 5.891 17 Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452 18 Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233 19 AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302 20 Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042 21 Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907 22 Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180 23 Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741 overall 856.303 103 8.314 I did say most folk 🤣 Although in all seriousness it might not be possible to just immediately utilise that advantage. It may take time. Also attendance is only relevant to the top line. I suspect we have no idea of the expenditure of the club. A club with much lower attendances may also have much lower expenditure and therefore greater disposable income. Who knows. Secco get 50k attendance every other week but they’re still feckin skint 🤣 Using the attendance argument would suggest that Man Utd should be pissing all over Liverpool at the moment. Just don’t think it’s as simple as that. Quote
Lord Pityme Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, faraway saint said: The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team. That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about. While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage. Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. # Team sum Matches average 1 Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360 2 Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230 3 Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978 4 Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838 5 Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466 6 Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701 7 Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695 8 Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637 9 Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442 10 Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292 11 Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133 12 Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047 13 Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861 14 Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202 15 Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996 16 Southend United 23.563 4 5.891 17 Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452 18 Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233 19 AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302 20 Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042 21 Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907 22 Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180 23 Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741 overall 856.303 103 8.314 Aye but they were up until a few weeks ago paying ten to fifteen times more to some players than the league one average. Plus they have had to spend a fortune on mutuals. I would say going forward they will be considerably better off than the rest of the league. they've only really bought one established player in Grigg, and he's more damp squib than on 🔥 Quote
gstretchuk Posted September 23, 2019 Report Posted September 23, 2019 Jack Dross...his time is up..come back up the road Jack sniffiling for another job...maybe Falkirk will take u..don't ever darken our doorstep again judas! Quote
shull Posted October 8, 2019 Author Report Posted October 8, 2019 Karma Bye Jack Ha ha ha ha ha Quote
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