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6 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

One loss in nine, three points off second, two wins off the top. f**k me its disaster for Ross. Lol

Be interesting to compare ours and Sunderland's fortunes come the end of October?

Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. 

Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league.

He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. :wink:

Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. 

 

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4 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. 

Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league.

He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. :wink:

Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. 

 

I'd take the draws for us, rather than than the "unlucky" defeats!

Jack Draws will mould his team and start to pull away from the pack. He's had one season where the club have been offloading the 30-40000 a week players, now he has a chance to settle in a team. Nearly promoted in his first season and in a cup final... yeah we are faring so much better in the fecking playoffs and being unable to beat non league teams!

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1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said:

I'd take the draws for us, rather than than the "unlucky" defeats!

Jack Draws will mould his team and start to pull away from the pack. He's had one season where the club have been offloading the 30-40000 a week players, now he has a chance to settle in a team. Nearly promoted in his first season and in a cup final... yeah we are faring so much better in the fecking playoffs and being unable to beat non league teams!

Time will tell, if he gets the chance to finish the league campaign.

Drawing with the team at he bottom of the league doesn't look like a manager you're describing. 

Even he admitted he had failed last season. :lol:

As for us, what's that got to do with Ross? :blink:

 

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4 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Or only won 4 from 9, funny things stats. 

Should, with the resources that Sunderland have, scooshed that league.

He seems not have the ability to turn draws into wins, the very thing you have been banging on about for us. :wink:

Draws were their downfall last season, already looking like it will be again, having drawn 4 from 9. 

 

Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. 

 

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1 minute ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. 

 

:snore

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7 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

f**k! Didn’t realise I had wandered into the asylum. Straight back out for me. Glad you’ve been missing me though. Responded within 10 seconds. Tatty bye loser. 

Shouldn't even reply to you as you are everything on the list 

Don't hurry back :snore :byebye

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17 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said:

Whilst I’m with you all the way on the fact that you can spin stats pretty much whatever way you like, I don’t necessarily subscribe to the old “with their resources they should be skooshing the league” argument. My main reason for not subscribing to that argument is because I haven’t the first clue what Sunderland’s resources are or how they compare to other teams in the league and I strongly suspect that neither do the vast majority of folk who spout that line. Most of them just heard someone else say it or are making assumptions based on Sunderland’s historical significance. 

 

The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team.

That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about.

While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage.

Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. 

# Team sum Matches average
1 Sunderland AFC Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360
2 Ipswich Town Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230
3 Portsmouth FC Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978
4 Blackpool FC Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838
5 Rotherham United Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466
6 Lincoln City Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701
7 Doncaster Rovers Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695
8 Milton Keynes Dons Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637
9 Peterborough United Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442
10 Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292
11 Tranmere Rovers Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133
12 Bristol Rovers Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047
13 Oxford United Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861
14 Coventry City Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202
15 Shrewsbury Town Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996
16 Southend United Southend United 23.563 4 5.891
17 Wycombe Wanderers Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452
18 Gillingham FC Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233
19 AFC Wimbledon AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302
20 Rochdale AFC Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042
21 Burton Albion Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907
22 Accrington Stanley Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180
23 Fleetwood Town Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741
  overall 856.303 103 8.314
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I’m with Faraway on this.

I want JR to do well down south. He’s done a great job of building a side who rarely lose. However the draws are costing them, and that will be his downfall. They should have eased to the title last season, and they should be doing so again this season (or at the very least, getting promoted). I know he had some squad building and sorting to do when he started there, but they are a massive club in a small pond, and these draws will be the end of him. I really hope he can change it soon, but something just doesn’t seem to be clicking to turn the draws to wins.

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32 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team.

That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about.

While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage.

Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. 

# Team sum Matches average
1 Sunderland AFC Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360
2 Ipswich Town Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230
3 Portsmouth FC Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978
4 Blackpool FC Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838
5 Rotherham United Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466
6 Lincoln City Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701
7 Doncaster Rovers Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695
8 Milton Keynes Dons Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637
9 Peterborough United Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442
10 Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292
11 Tranmere Rovers Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133
12 Bristol Rovers Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047
13 Oxford United Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861
14 Coventry City Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202
15 Shrewsbury Town Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996
16 Southend United Southend United 23.563 4 5.891
17 Wycombe Wanderers Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452
18 Gillingham FC Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233
19 AFC Wimbledon AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302
20 Rochdale AFC Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042
21 Burton Albion Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907
22 Accrington Stanley Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180
23 Fleetwood Town Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741
  overall 856.303 103 8.314

I did say most folk 🤣

Although in all seriousness it might not be possible to just immediately utilise that advantage. It may take time. Also attendance is only relevant to the top line. I suspect we have no idea of the expenditure of the club. A club with much lower attendances may also have much lower expenditure and therefore greater disposable income. Who knows. Secco get 50k attendance every other week but they’re still feckin skint 🤣

Using the attendance argument would suggest that Man Utd should be pissing all over Liverpool at the moment. Just don’t think it’s as simple as that. 

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31 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

The resources, in attendances alone, are 10,000 each home game above the next best team.

That alone brings in a whopping amount of revenue that other league one teams can only dream about.

While there are many factors that can add to revenue streams this gives Sunderland a massive financial advantage.

Nothing to do with "historical significance", more to do with revenue every home game. 

# Team sum Matches average
1 Sunderland AFC Sunderland AFC 121.441 4 30.360
2 Ipswich Town Ipswich Town 80.918 4 20.230
3 Portsmouth FC Portsmouth FC 53.933 3 17.978
4 Blackpool FC Blackpool FC 39.351 4 9.838
5 Rotherham United Rotherham United 37.865 4 9.466
6 Lincoln City Lincoln City 43.503 5 8.701
7 Doncaster Rovers Doncaster Rovers 52.167 6 8.695
8 Milton Keynes Dons Milton Keynes Dons 51.822 6 8.637
9 Peterborough United Peterborough United 33.767 4 8.442
10 Bolton Wanderers Bolton Wanderers 33.167 4 8.292
11 Tranmere Rovers Tranmere Rovers 28.530 4 7.133
12 Bristol Rovers Bristol Rovers 35.235 5 7.047
13 Oxford United Oxford United 27.444 4 6.861
14 Coventry City Coventry City 31.010 5 6.202
15 Shrewsbury Town Shrewsbury Town 23.983 4 5.996
16 Southend United Southend United 23.563 4 5.891
17 Wycombe Wanderers Wycombe Wanderers 32.709 6 5.452
18 Gillingham FC Gillingham FC 26.165 5 5.233
19 AFC Wimbledon AFC Wimbledon 21.509 5 4.302
20 Rochdale AFC Rochdale AFC 16.168 4 4.042
21 Burton Albion Burton Albion 15.627 4 3.907
22 Accrington Stanley Accrington Stanley 12.720 4 3.180
23 Fleetwood Town Fleetwood Town 13.706 5 2.741
  overall 856.303 103 8.314

Aye but they were up until a few weeks ago paying ten to fifteen times more to some players than the league one average. Plus they have had to spend a fortune on mutuals. I would say going forward they will be considerably better off than the rest of the league.

they've only really bought one established player in Grigg, and he's more damp squib than on 🔥 

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On 9/23/2019 at 1:33 PM, Lord Pityme said:

One loss in nine, three points off second, two wins off the top. f**k me its disaster for Ross. Lol

Be interesting to compare ours and Sunderland's fortunes come the end of October?

Despite you trying to talk him up the writing was on the wall.

End of October, he didn't make it that far.

Back to the lower leagues for him with all his hard earned cash as he was always putting money on his team to draw. ha ha

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