Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Remember the furore in April about the leaked memo from the Scotland Office alleging First Minister Sturgeon told the French Ambassador she wanted Cameron to remain PM? Turns out not only did Secretary of State Carmichael know it was fake, he was responsible for it. He also knowingly covered this up, lied and allowed an inquiry costing £1.4 million to run during the election campaign so that he could get re-elected before the truth came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Remember the furore in April about the leaked memo from the Scotland Office alleging First Minister Sturgeon told the French Ambassador she wanted Cameron to remain PM? Turns out not only did Secretary of State Carmichael know it was fake, he was responsible for it. He also knowingly covered this up, lied and allowed an inquiry costing £1.4 million to run during the election campaign so that he could get re-elected before the truth came out. I think your aptly chosen thread title sums him up nicely. Hopefully his resignation will follow soon and we'll be up to 57. Edited May 22, 2015 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltcoatsbuddie Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 don't think he meant to hit the send button,cut the guy some slack ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 We as a country did not vote for independence, get over it. And stand by for the revelation of some SNP members of parliament being more than economical with the truth, they have chosen to be politicians after all and hiding the truth goes with the job. Incidentally i am glad he has been exposed for this, hopefully all misdemeanours by elected members will be exposed (no chance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Great thread. Dear oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 We as a country did not vote for independence, get over it. And stand by for the revelation of some SNP members of parliament being more than economical with the truth, they have chosen to be politicians after all and hiding the truth goes with the job. Incidentally i am glad he has been exposed for this, hopefully all misdemeanours by elected members will be exposed (no chance) Independence is irrelevant in this, you're the only one mentioning it.This isn't simply about politicians not being honest with the public. I think everyone now accepts that they are at best economic with truth and avoid answers. He won his seat by 3%, just over 800 votes while knowingly causing an international incident, lying about it during a period of purdah. He should resign, irrespective of party politics and whoever wins a by election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Great thread. Dear oh dear. Glad you're enjoying it.Thanks for taking the time to post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) We as a country did not vote for independence, get over it. And stand by for the revelation of some SNP members of parliament being more than economical with the truth, they have chosen to be politicians after all and hiding the truth goes with the job. Incidentally i am glad he has been exposed for this, hopefully all misdemeanours by elected members will be exposed (no chance) Everyone SNP supporter realizes the country didn't vote for independence and that we can't just have a referendum every six months until we get the correct result but that doesn't mean that supporters of the union get a free ticket for twenty years - IMO there are two current issues pertinent to the debate Alex Salmond's once in a generation promise - I reckon this was made in good faith but with the "Better Together" Alliance shattered has this good faith been reciprocated and will substantial extra powers be devolved as was promised? Changing circumstances such as Cameron's renegotiation of our EEC contributions and the possible.referendum as well as the proposed changes to the Bill of Rights. Now who knows what combination of events would be enough to seek a new referendum on independence, it's not top of the agenda currently but it shouldn't be completely off it. ************************* On the subject of the thread - once yer caught you should face some sort of punishment, it's the reluctance to do this over the last coupla decades that is one of the main reasons why politics & politicians are currently held in low regard. Resign! Edited May 23, 2015 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 To me , the guy has always had the beingness of a greasy groper , no surprises about him . Danny Alexander was always far better at talking shite for that now , insignificant little "once was " of a political party. . They have loved getting into bed with other parties for years , including the social democrats in 1988 . Getting into bed with the Tories 5yrs ago was there undoing , the kind of thing that marred , another party that were quite big , once. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Everyone SNP supporter realizes the country didn't vote for independence and that we can't just have a referendum every six months until we get the correct result but that doesn't mean that supporters of the union get a free ticket for twenty years - IMO there are two current issues pertinent to the debate Alex Salmond's once in a generation promise - I reckon this was made in good faith but with the "Better Together" Alliance shattered the has this good faith been reciprocated and will substantial extra powers be devolved as was promised? Changing circumstances such as how Cameron's renegotiation of our EEC contributions and the possible.referendum as well as the proposed changes to the Bill of Rights. Now who knows what combination of events would be enough to seek a new referendum on independence, it's not top of the agenda currently but it shouldn't be completely off it. ************************* On the subject of the thread - once yer caught you should face some sort of punishment, it's the reluctance to do this over the last coupla decades that is one of the main reasons why politics & politicians are currently held in low regard. Resign! You are right. Once you've been caught lying you should resign. Salmond was caught lying over the "advice" he'd been given about Scotlands EU Membership before the referendum. He wasted taxpayers money trying to cover up his lies too. Odious f**ker. I hope in this sudden burst of morality by the SNP we see the rush to ensure that justice is applied equally throughout the house and that Salmond gives up his Gordon seat too. Edited May 23, 2015 by Stuart Dickson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) You are right. Once you've been caught lying you should resign. Salmond was caught lying over the "advice" he'd been given about Scotlands EU Membership before the referendum. He wasted taxpayers money trying to cover up his lies too. Odious f**ker. I hope in this sudden burst of morality by the SNP we see the rush to ensure that justice is applied equally throughout the house and that Salmond gives up his Gordon seat too. As I'm sure you know he was cleared by an enquiry. Edited May 23, 2015 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 As I'm sure you know he was cleared by an enquiry. Why let facts get in the way of the fat lying fool making a rip roaring c**t of himself yet again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 He certainly won't be resigning over this. He SHOULD. But he won't. Because he's only interested in himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaisleypanda Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Why let facts get in the way of the fat lying fool making a rip roaring c**t of himself yet again? Dickson or Carmichael? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Dickson or Carmichael? Either or both. I'm not sure which of the two chubsters has the bigger brass neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Tick tock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Tick tock! Indeed , it was on the tranny about protests in Orkney and Shetland , suggesting he stand down . I think even Carmichael , might not be arrogant enough to sit this one out . . The cant . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 The SNP said prior to the UK General Election that if Scots voted for them we wouldn't get a Conservative Government. They claimed that a vote for the SNP would end child poverty. Considering so many Scots did vote for the SNP can you let us all know how they are getting on with those two pledges? I hope they didn't lie cause if they did under this new found morality that Nationalists appear to have found long after their campaigns ended, I'd presume they'd all have to resign en-masse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I take it that fatty is siding with his fellow morbidly obese, lying bastard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 I take it that fatty is siding with his fellow morbidly obese, lying bastard. That's a terrible way to speak about ernie, the economic illiterate and cockless the bigot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) And still he doesn't provide proof, there must be a reason for this. Quite right cockless bigot. I too am still waiting for ernie to provide proof that the main source of public debt is the sale of premium bonds. Edited May 23, 2015 by nosferatu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosferatu Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 Carmichael did us all a favour. He was quite right to expose the fact that Sturgeon preferred Cameron as prime minister than Milliband. We all know that Sturgeon *really* did say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 23, 2015 Report Share Posted May 23, 2015 FFS © Drew Have you found an old air fix model set and started sniffing the tube of glue in it? Either that or one of LP's aliases has hacked your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted May 24, 2015 Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Carmichael did us all a favour. He was quite right to expose the fact that Sturgeon preferred Cameron as prime minister than Milliband. We all know that Sturgeon *really* did say it. Even if she did the Scottish Electorate backed her party. Does this still wrankle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambiebud Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 The SNP said prior to the UK General Election that if Scots voted for them we wouldn't get a Conservative Government. They claimed that a vote for the SNP would end child poverty. Considering so many Scots did vote for the SNP can you let us all know how they are getting on with those two pledges? I hope they didn't lie cause if they did under this new found morality that Nationalists appear to have found long after their campaigns ended, I'd presume they'd all have to resign en-masse. Relevance Mr Dickson? Should the proven liar and MP for Orkney and Shetland resign? Yes or No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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