elvis Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Dunfermline will beat Raith then draw with Ayr so IF we win we will be 5 doints behind ayr and 7 behind the Dung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, elvis said: Dunfermline will beat Raith then draw with Ayr so IF we win we will be 5 doints behind ayr and 7 behind the Dung. Or they could lose both. They are rubbish, we should have beat them in November. If they do we're only 3 points behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That wont happen . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 10 minutes ago, elvis said: That wont happen . Dammit i was hoping it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Gordon Urquhart said: We seem unable to pull out the rabbit results like Dumbarton beating Dundee Utd. Coupon buster that one and bad for our prospects. Exactly This team is getting results we can only dream of A team who were knocked out the Scottish Cup by a junior team A junior team who outplayed them the 2 games they played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Exactly This team is getting results we can only dream of A team who were knocked out the Scottish Cup by a junior team A junior team who outplayed them the 2 games they played A team who are part time and train a couple of nights a week after work then play on a Saturday. The difference is that, unlike us, they have a fantastic manager who is maximising what little resources they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TopCat said: A team who are part time and train a couple of nights a week after work then play on a Saturday. The difference is that, unlike us, they have a fantastic manager who is maximising what little resources they have. Fantastic manager who saw his team dumped out the cup by a junior mob. I'm sure if Aitken was our manager you wouldn't be long on getting on his case. Edited December 31, 2016 by scottd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Fantastic manager who saw his team dumped out the cup by a junior mob. I'm sure if Aitken was our manager you wouldn't be long on getting on his case. I would much rather be having their season than ours, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Just now, TopCat said: I would much rather be having their season than ours, that's for sure. Absolutely. But could you imagine the meltdown had we lost to Bonnyrigg Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 11 hours ago, TopCat said: A team who are part time and train a couple of nights a week after work then play on a Saturday. The difference is that, unlike us, they have a fantastic manager who is maximising what little resources they have. Your hilarious mate Jack Ross has taken over your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 15 hours ago, Drew said: We can't afford to write the season off just yet. Things have improved (slightly). Certainly, the football is better to watch, and we are competing. I can understand why folk are talking as though we are down already, and I can't pretend that I'm brimming with confidence that we can survive, but we really need to believe that there is hope until its impossible. I've been impressed by the level of support that the management team and players have enjoyed during games of late. The goodwill is there, and we need to ensure that heads don't go down on the pitch, in the dug out, or in the stands. Its not looking good, but is far from unachievable. Platitudes, perhaps, but we need to cling onto any positives we can. The baw isn't burst yet! Agree with all of that. In our next five games, we play the four teams immediately above us. Queens have got 5 points and no wins in their last 13 games; Ayr have 5 points from 9 games, again with no wins. These teams can be caught. Yesterday was a sore one, but Ross's analysis was spot on and I think he'll sort what's wrong, which is the mental strength of the team. I don't go to many away games but I'll be at the ones against Dunfermline, Dumbarton and Ayr. Our team needs us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidebud Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Surprisingly mild New Year hangover - so in a slightly better mood than immediately post match yesterday. OK - we are in a bit of a pickle and I can see both sides - we are not making up ground and we have less games to do it - so I can see relegation staring us in the face. However, we are playing better and we can still catch at least one team above us (strangely looking more and more like Ayr). Its a bit like Schrodinger's cat at the moment so either side could be right - and we won't know until we get to open the drawer. It all hinges on what can be done in the transfer market (if anything). Yesterday the same two key weaknesses were exposed again: No midfield ball winner once Quinn went off and a misfiring centre-half partnership virtually incapable of getting us to a clean sheet. I guess we need to ditch any loanees that we can to free up funds (still say that Walsh did us a half decent turn but we need the wage money for other areas). It would be great if we could punt Clarkson but if not he should be left in the reserves - for me he is the greatest disappointment - supposedly the most experienced player in the team but virtually invisible in any game he plays. So commanding centre half to work with MacKenzie (or Baird) and someone to get a grip on midfield allowing Quinn to be backup. Don't know if we can get players that fit these vague descriptions - but I believe that this is what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Just now, southsidebud said: Surprisingly mild New Year hangover - so in a slightly better mood than immediately post match yesterday. OK - we are in a bit of a pickle and I can see both sides - we are not making up ground and we have less games to do it - so I can see relegation staring us in the face. However, we are playing better and we can still catch at least one team above us (strangely looking more and more like Ayr). Its a bit like Schrodinger's cat at the moment so either side could be right - and we won't know until we get to open the drawer. It all hinges on what can be done in the transfer market (if anything). Yesterday the same two key weaknesses were exposed again: No midfield ball winner once Quinn went off and a misfiring centre-half partnership virtually incapable of getting us to a clean sheet. I guess we need to ditch any loanees that we can to free up funds (still say that Walsh did us a half decent turn but we need the wage money for other areas). It would be great if we could punt Clarkson but if not he should be left in the reserves - for me he is the greatest disappointment - supposedly the most experienced player in the team but virtually invisible in any game he plays. So commanding centre half to work with MacKenzie (or Baird) and someone to get a grip on midfield allowing Quinn to be backup. Don't know if we can get players that fit these vague descriptions - but I believe that this is what we need. Well Craig Storie from Aberdeen is the hard tackling midfielder so that's one position filled. Allegedly trying to get 3 other players in. One is probably a left back and I hope a striker. Personally I am glad to see the back of Walsh. Flatters to deceive in my opinion and has no heart. Could certainly make far better use of the wages. McAllister who is 3 years younger has skill, energy and attitude that Walsh can only dream about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidebud Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Sonny said: Well Craig Storie from Aberdeen is the hard tackling midfielder so that's one position filled. Allegedly trying to get 3 other players in. One is probably a left back and I hope a striker. Personally I am glad to see the back of Walsh. Flatters to deceive in my opinion and has no heart. Could certainly make far better use of the wages. McAllister who is 3 years younger has skill, energy and attitude that Walsh can only dream about. Didn't know we had actually confirmed Storie - yep great news there. Hopefully the last of the other three will be a centre half. Not going to disagree about the impact of McAllister - nor would I play Walsh before him - my point was more to do with how he did in comparison to the other loanees. I thought he was a good impact sub and did make a positive difference in a number of games. He's history now though and I hope the wage money can make a difference in the quality of the incoming players. If we get four key players in - and they work out - then it could still be happy(ish) days. Edited January 1, 2017 by southsidebud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotstounSaint Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 33 minutes ago, southsidebud said: Surprisingly mild New Year hangover - so in a slightly better mood than immediately post match yesterday. OK - we are in a bit of a pickle and I can see both sides - we are not making up ground and we have less games to do it - so I can see relegation staring us in the face. However, we are playing better and we can still catch at least one team above us (strangely looking more and more like Ayr). Its a bit like Schrodinger's cat at the moment so either side could be right - and we won't know until we get to open the drawer. It all hinges on what can be done in the transfer market (if anything). Yesterday the same two key weaknesses were exposed again: No midfield ball winner once Quinn went off and a misfiring centre-half partnership virtually incapable of getting us to a clean sheet. I guess we need to ditch any loanees that we can to free up funds (still say that Walsh did us a half decent turn but we need the wage money for other areas). It would be great if we could punt Clarkson but if not he should be left in the reserves - for me he is the greatest disappointment - supposedly the most experienced player in the team but virtually invisible in any game he plays. So commanding centre half to work with MacKenzie (or Baird) and someone to get a grip on midfield allowing Quinn to be backup. Don't know if we can get players that fit these vague descriptions - but I believe that this is what we need. I agree with you on Walsh, I'm unsure what he's done wrong to be dropped from the squad entirely. I suspect there's more to that than meets the eye. McLear may well turn out to be one for the future, but since he signed his 3 year contract back in 2015, I have yet to see one positive contribution from him. In my opinion we look decidedly weaker every time he appears. Whereas Walsh has scored 3 goals including a vital and stunning equaliser against Falkirk. Obviously I'm missing something that a mere supporter wouldn't understand. As for the centre halfs, I don't see us getting any better than what we already have. I thought Webster and McKenzie were dominant yesterday under intense pressure after we capitulated the midfield battle with the nonsense substitutions. As you say, a defensive midfielder will help there and hopefully Storie will make a difference defensively. Especially if he can manage to play more than 60 mins!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesham saint Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I was thinking today,aye I know dangerous. an experienced midfielder 33 years old isn't getting a game for his club John Rankin of Falkirk I think he may have issues with Houston as both can be feisty character Just saying like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 2 hours ago, southsidebud said: Surprisingly mild New Year hangover - so in a slightly better mood than immediately post match yesterday. OK - we are in a bit of a pickle and I can see both sides - we are not making up ground and we have less games to do it - so I can see relegation staring us in the face. However, we are playing better and we can still catch at least one team above us (strangely looking more and more like Ayr). Its a bit like Schrodinger's cat at the moment so either side could be right - and we won't know until we get to open the drawer. It all hinges on what can be done in the transfer market (if anything). Yesterday the same two key weaknesses were exposed again: No midfield ball winner once Quinn went off and a misfiring centre-half partnership virtually incapable of getting us to a clean sheet. I guess we need to ditch any loanees that we can to free up funds (still say that Walsh did us a half decent turn but we need the wage money for other areas). It would be great if we could punt Clarkson but if not he should be left in the reserves - for me he is the greatest disappointment - supposedly the most experienced player in the team but virtually invisible in any game he plays. So commanding centre half to work with MacKenzie (or Baird) and someone to get a grip on midfield allowing Quinn to be backup. Don't know if we can get players that fit these vague descriptions - but I believe that this is what we need. Listening to Jack Ross latest post match interview seems quite clear under performers will be left behind. Jack knows what he needs to give the squad more balance. Still strongly believe we will get out of the relegation position there is a decent team in there with the right additions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 16 hours ago, elvis said: Dunfermline will beat Raith 12/5 for a Dunfermline win with Willie Hill. Those are great odds for what you think is a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 1 minute ago, scottd said: 12/5 for a Dunfermline win with Willie Hill. Those are great odds for what you think is a sure thing. Looking at the recent form they are actually quite generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Well get your cash on it its going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 30 minutes ago, elvis said: Well get your cash on it its going to happen. How much you putting on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Hardie gone too. Very ineffective for a team in our predicament, we need a few battlers to compliment our young flair players. Incidentally, in better circumstances i think Hardie would have done well for us, just not to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, scottd said: How much you putting on it? im in the middle of the north sea mate no bookies out here . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, elvis said: im in the middle of the north sea mate no bookies out here . Pity you're missing out on the biggest sure thing since Remain and Hillary Clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, elvis said: im in the middle of the north sea mate no bookies out here . ^^^^^^^ Never heard of the internet...................oh, wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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