BuddieinEK Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Only took you the 5 million years... Here comes Sarti "technically that wasn't how long it took" lol Also you absolutely did disagree with me on a number of things to get the argument going, that actually is a fact. There was me thinking we had turned a corner with all the likes, silly me Of course we disagreed.I'm sensible! [emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 11 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Hilarious stuff from fascist dictator Sturgeon What a complete joke this country is https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-53697673 If Nicola Sturgeon really was a fascist dictator you would have been locked up (or shot) long ago. Remember Franco, Hitler and Mussolini?😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Saint Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 If Nicola Sturgeon really was a fascist dictator you would have been locked up (or shot) long ago. Remember Franco, Hitler and Mussolini?[emoji3]Decent back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, smcc said: If Nicola Sturgeon really was a fascist dictator you would have been locked up (or shot) long ago. Remember Franco, Hitler and Mussolini?😀 Good comparison All 4 were / are egotistical, narcissistic nationalists you took away people’s liberties and whose policies killed thousands of people. Edited August 8, 2020 by Sue Denim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Dr John Lee The government painted itself into a corner very quickly. It doesn’t know how to get out of that corner apart from by acting out the scenario that it came up with in the first place, which is why, months after we could have abolished all these restrictions and got back to normal, we are going through more months of public virtue-signalling and ritualistic behaviour. When you convince yourself the sky is falling, it is quite difficult to un-convince yourself of it, especially if you have invented various methods which you think are effective in keeping it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) That's the BBC now reporting that 16,000 extra deaths have been directly caused by lockdown. It seems a lot of people who would have sought medical help didn't do so. I suppose they believed that it wasn't safe to go to hospitals or GP surgeries. Also, they probably and very wrongly believed that hospitals were swamped due to covid cases. Apparently that's 2 extra deaths for every 3 covid deaths. As I have repeatedly said to the virtue signallers (Baz, TPAK thingy etc.) on this forum - covid is not, has never been and never will be a moral issue. It is a health and political issue. There was no solution which would have resulted in no deaths. Edited August 8, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Decent back three.Well they didn't take many prisoners [emoji856] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 That's the BBC now reporting that 16,000 extra deaths have been directly caused by lockdown. It seems a lot of people who would have sought medical help didn't do so. I suppose they believed that it wasn't safe to go to hospitals or GP surgeries. Also, they probably and very wrongly believed that hospitals were swamped due to covid cases. Apparently that's 2 extra deaths for every 3 covid deaths. As I have repeatedly said to the virtue signallers (Baz, TPAK thingy etc.) on this forum - covid is not, has never been and never will be a moral issue. It is a health and political issue. There was no solution which would have resulted in no deaths.Have been, then.........It seems,I suppose,Probably, Apparently.So what is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Have been, then......... It seems, I suppose, Probably, Apparently. So what is it? I didn't write the article. Email the BBC. Better still, go and read it for yourself. So many lazy people.... Edited August 8, 2020 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 I didn't write the article. Email the BBC. Better still, go and read it for yourself. So many lazy people....[emoji14]I did try to find it, I was unsuccessfull. If you could provide a link to it, it would be very much appreciated. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: I did try to find it, I was unsuccessfull. If you could provide a link to it, it would be very much appreciated. I'll let you off just this once because the buggers have either moved it or removed it or changed the title. They have a bad habit of doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Good comparison All 4 were / are egotistical, narcissistic nationalists you took away people’s liberties and whose policies killed thousands of people. Describes you to a T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, theknickerwetter said: Do you remember Stalin ,Mao and Pol pot😁 I do indeed. Do you think NS ressembles them? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Do you remember Stalin ,Mao and Pol pot[emoji16]They well known fascists? [emoji38] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 English , do you speak it ?[emoji38]lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 English , do you speak it ?[emoji38]lolThat depends on what you consider a language and what you consider a dialect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 Here's an "optimistic", (perhaps...) BUT reasonable assessment of cv19 and what its real impact upon the world may be. From an MD who has been and is working on the frontline in Sweden. https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/08/04/how-bad-is-covid-really-a-swedish-doctors-perspective/ (warning: this link contains opinions that may be enjoyed by Sue Denim.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 10 hours ago, theknickerwetter said: Do you think she is fair and democratic She is the elected leader of the party which is in government in a democratic system and she is certainly fairer and more democratic than the Westminster cabal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 8 hours ago, antrin said: Here's an "optimistic", (perhaps...) BUT reasonable assessment of cv19 and what its real impact upon the world may be. From an MD who has been and is working on the frontline in Sweden. https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/08/04/how-bad-is-covid-really-a-swedish-doctors-perspective/ (warning: this link contains opinions that may be enjoyed by Sue Denim.) Maybe, in hindsight, The Cap'n was correct about Sweden although as ever scientific opinion is not universal , what they did have going in their favour is making a decision early about social distancing and what restrictions to take and sticking to them - it was never the free for all that the PotUS has allowed in the land of the free and the home of the brave. The lead story on the virus today is closing pubs & restaurants and as a means to keep schools open, again I think this is wooly thinking by the government bracketing the two together - social distancing seems to be difficult to maintain as the evenings wear on at pubs but it's not as if people go on restaurant crawls. I've always said we should err on the side of caution so supported the lockdown but 6 months on perhaps we are in a better position to say how we focus our prevention strategy until a vaccine is available. Oh and FWIW I am maintaining my hygiene regime with regards to my facemasks, both Steampunk & Saints varieties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 2:03 AM, oaksoft said: It's hard to stop acting like an ass when I'm constantly exposed to your wittering buffoonery.. Now, go and talk shite elsewhere and stop wasting my time with your infantile pish. I'll just leave this here 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now https://royalsociety.org/-/media/policy/projects/set-c/set-c-facemasks.pdf?la=en-GB&hash=A22A87CB28F7D6AD9BD93BBCBFC2BB24 Edited August 9, 2020 by insaintee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, insaintee said: https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-07-08-oxford-covid-19-study-face-masks-and-coverings-work-act-now https://royalsociety.org/-/media/policy/projects/set-c/set-c-facemasks.pdf?la=en-GB&hash=A22A87CB28F7D6AD9BD93BBCBFC2BB24 Thanks for these two interesting but unconvincing links. The first produced by number-crunching people, who have their place, but who recognise that their reports are not scientific evidence that masks work in the public domain but that because lots of countries have adopted them it is worth ding... The second stresses that the effectiveness of masks has been proven but only in clinical settings, and those findings are possibly not attributable to wearing masks in public. The doctor I linked to above in Sweden on the front line is honestly upfront saying that his 'report' is necessarily anecdotal. Same as, if you read the phrasing of your two links - they're also admitting "wearing masks is a good thing" is just as anecdotal as his was Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, antrin said: Thanks for these two interesting but unconvincing links. The first produced by number-crunching people, who have their place, but who recognise that their reports are not scientific evidence that masks work in the public domain but that because lots of countries have adopted them it is worth ding... The second stresses that the effectiveness of masks has been proven but only in clinical settings, and those findings are possibly not attributable to wearing masks in public. The doctor I linked to above in Sweden on the front line is honestly upfront saying that his 'report' is necessarily anecdotal. Same as, if you read the phrasing of your two links - they're also admitting "wearing masks is a good thing" is just as anecdotal as his was Good to know. Forunately it is not you that needs convinced, it public health officials and experts. Not wish to dis your *ahem* scientific credentuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, insaintee said: Forunately it is not you that needs convinced, it public health officials and experts. Not wish to dis your *ahem* scientific credentuals You're perfectly right that - in the wider world - it's PH Officials and experts that need to be convinced. But I wasn't responding under some illusion that you'd posted those links on this venue because you'd thought this would be the best place such people might find it. There was silly me, thinking that you posted it in here, so that us dreary, ordinary punters might learn something! Ah well... Edited August 9, 2020 by antrin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 9, 2020 Report Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) . Edited August 9, 2020 by antrin Reason for edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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