Mid Calder Saint Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Quite clearly the SPFL had previously voted against forfeiture of games and 3-0 awards so something has to be changed I look around the English Leagues and there has been no talk whatsoever of punishments of the nature handed out to us and Killie.Commonsense has to prevail we are in the middle of a World Pandemic and we are all learning. If you believe that then you already know why we've been punished and you'll have answered your own questions. This is about the severity of the punishment and you want our defence team to go in with some distracting, wittering pish about them having to prove we are guilty when we've already admitted it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 What do you think the SFA will do? I will be surprised if they overrule the judgement. No idea what they'll do. As I've said, it's Scottish fitba authorities, I've long given up trying to work out their "logic". If you believe that then you already know why we've been punished and you'll have answered your own questions. This is about the severity of the punishment and you want our defence team to go in with some distracting, wittering pish about them having to prove we are guilty when we've already admitted it?FFS, I thought you understood English.Where did I say I want them to prove we are guilty? They can't prove anything (other than what we admitted to), so why would I want them to do so?I've already explained what the problems with the punishment are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: If you believe that then you already know why we've been punished and you'll have answered your own questions. This is about the severity of the punishment and you want our defence team to go in with some distracting, wittering pish about them having to prove we are guilty when we've already admitted it? I think the subtlety here is that we’ve already admitted to breaching the rules. We haven’t admitted to the rule breaches being the reason our players contracted Covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I think the subtlety here is that we’ve already admitted to breaching the rules. We haven’t admitted to the rule breaches being the reason our players contracted Covid. Yeah, I've realised this is one of slarti's legendary hair-splitting arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Yeah, I've realised this is one of slarti's legendary hair-splitting arguments. Not at all, they are two completely different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Celtic assistant Kennedy had admitted that Celtic were guilty of minor breaks of the rules while in Dubai Claims the pictures that were seen as bleak, but give a false impression Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, Slarti said: 3 hours ago, oaksoft said: Yeah, I've realised this is one of slarti's legendary hair-splitting arguments. Not at all, they are two completely different things. If you say so. This isn't a conversation for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 If you say so. This isn't a conversation for me.Why did you get involved then? [emoji1787] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Slarti said: Why did you get involved then? To make my point until I realised the game you were playing. Sorry, was that a trick question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 To make my point until I realised the game you were playing. Sorry, was that a trick question?Not playing a game at all. We seem to have been punished for something that we weren't "charged" with and something that can't be proven. Quite simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55611659 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sonny said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55611659 Wouldn't get too excited, means little, and certainly nothing to do with our ongoing situation. PS Not meaning you'd get excited by this, some will be slevering. Edited January 10, 2021 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Wouldn't get too excited, means little, and certainly nothing to do with our ongoing situation. Am assuming nothing. Would not want anyone to catch the virus but the situation may help support our appeal. Or it may not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sonny said: Am assuming nothing. Would not want anyone to catch the virus but the situation may help support our appeal. Or it may not. Absolutely won't. PS See my edit. Edited January 10, 2021 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Graham Alexander is at Pittodrie the new rules state if you can work from home you should do so and pretty sure you are only allowed outside your council area for essential reasons???Is this an essential reason travelling 150 miles to Aberdeen to watch a football match not involving his team that he could watch at home live on TV??? Am assuming nothing. Would not want anyone to catch the virus but the situation may help support our appeal. Or it may not. Absolutely won't. PS See my edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ronnie said: Graham Alexander is at Pittodrie the new rules state if you can work from home you should do so and pretty sure you are only allowed outside your council area for essential reasons??? Is this an essential reason travelling 150 miles to Aberdeen to watch a football match not involving his team that he could watch at home live on TV??? What's that got to do with the two quotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 You were discussing Celtic player testing positive after Dubai trip and whether it would help or not in our appeal imo seeing a Rival manager travelling 150 miles to watch a match not involving his team should also (along with Celtic trip/positive test) be used in the appeal as the rules seem to be full of loopholes that everyone is exploiting but apparently only St Mirren and Kilmarnock are guilty. What's that got to do with the two quotes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Ronnie said: You were discussing Celtic player testing positive after Dubai trip and whether it would help or not in our appeal imo seeing a Rival manager travelling 150 miles to watch a match not involving his team should also be used in the appeal as the rules seem to be full of loopholes that everyone is exploiting g but apparently only St Mirren and Kilmarnock are guilty. 2 things, not anywhere near directly related. Smacking of desperation IMO. Secondly, why do you have the annoying habit of posting ABOVE a quote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Didn't know you found it annoying. [emoji23] 2 things, not anywhere near directly related. Smacking of desperation IMO. Secondly, why do you have the annoying habit of posting ABOVE a quote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Just now, Cookie Monster said: Didn't know you found it annoying. I do, didn't I just say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 Will need to keep doing that. I do, didn't I just say that? [emoji38] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 It childish. [emoji23]Will need to keep doing that. [emoji106] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 things, not anywhere near directly related. Smacking of desperation IMO. Secondly, why do you have the annoying habit of posting ABOVE a quote? Aren't we in a desperate situation regarding the "crime we commited" Imo we should use anything possible to get off. On the pitch you agreed we took the "luck" last 2 weeks we should take the "luck" that Celtic and Graham Alexander have put our way as Tesco says every little helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 I remember when our game against Celtic was called off in August when Bolingoli travelled to Spain (no positive test IIRC), I was watching NS on't telly when she more or less made the decision on air. The league confirmed this shortly afterwards although I am sure this was not their original intention. To put this in perspective it happened while Covid cases in the UK were running at about 1000 per day and their were virtually no deaths in Scotland. Now let's fast forward a few months and we have a player testing positive coming back with the squad from a foreign destination where the virus is running rife where UK cases are running at 50-60k per day and 183 deaths being recorded in Scotland in the last weekly figures available and yet even with the club admitting to "minor breaches" of the rules there is no need for their squad to self isolate. It seems the government are afraid to make a decision which might put the rest of the season in jeopardy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: I remember when our game against Celtic was called off in August when Bolingoli travelled to Spain (no positive test IIRC), I was watching NS on't telly when she more or less made the decision on air. The league confirmed this shortly afterwards although I am sure this was not their original intention. To put this in perspective it happened while Covid cases in the UK were running at about 1000 per day and their were virtually no deaths in Scotland. Now let's fast forward a few months and we have a player testing positive coming back with the squad from a foreign destination where the virus is running rife where UK cases are running at 50-60k per day and 183 deaths being recorded in Scotland in the last weekly figures available and yet even with the club admitting to "minor breaches" of the rules there is no need for their squad to self isolate. It seems the government are afraid to make a decision which might put the rest of the season in jeopardy. Let's be honest, they would be saying plenty if it was a 'smaller' team that had done the same. To be fair puts us in an even better position with the appeal🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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