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Definite signs of activity in The Lord Lounsdale yesterday.

No desperate rush for a pint, as I had a couple at Ferguslie CC last week (club members only). The first one last Monday night was glorious.

My mate, just back from Guatemala, who hasn't had a pint in over a year, is gagging for a pint, so I'll no doubt be in The LL at some point.:lol:

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9 hours ago, FTOF said:

Definite signs of activity in The Lord Lounsdale yesterday.

No desperate rush for a pint, as I had a couple at Ferguslie CC last week (club members only). The first one last Monday night was glorious.

My mate, just back from Guatemala, who hasn't had a pint in over a year, is gagging for a pint, so I'll no doubt be in The LL at some point.:lol:

Was at the Abbey Inn for 12 noon on Saturday and despite the 2 hours per table, stayed until 6pm. They just chucked the young ones out.

Despite it really just being tables and seats in a car park next to a busy main road there was a huge queue with folk all dressed up in their best gear. 😃

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Hospital admissions in England for heart attacks fell by a third at the start of the pandemic. By the end of May, 5,000 fewer people than expected were treated for urgent heart symptoms, with avoidable deaths likely to have occurred as people avoided hospitals.
 

Those people died as a result of the policy you support @bazil85

a policy that has saved no-one and killed thousands 

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5 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

Hospital admissions in England for heart attacks fell by a third at the start of the pandemic. By the end of May, 5,000 fewer people than expected were treated for urgent heart symptoms, with avoidable deaths likely to have occurred as people avoided hospitals.
 

Those people died as a result of the policy you support @bazil85

a policy that has saved no-one and killed thousands 

As I have said many times, there were always going to be deaths during this pandemic, it is truly heartbreaking. Countries should try for the path of least casualties (economy should be secondary in concern, we can still feed and care for our nations people in a recession or depression). You've shared from multiple sources that the UK appear to have moderately been successful in that with Scotland an extra shining light given the death figures. Will you join me in thanking the SNP for factually bringing the mortality figures down in several death categories? 

As for your claim the policy has saved no one, it is undeniable fact that less contact = less passing of this virus. Given the excess deaths where Covid19 is present the only conclusion that can be made on this is less contact has saved many lives. You hate it and your pride gets in the way of admitting it but you were wrong. 

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Was at the Abbey Inn for 12 noon on Saturday and despite the 2 hours per table, stayed until 6pm. They just chucked the young ones out.
Despite it really just being tables and seats in a car park next to a busy main road there was a huge queue with folk all dressed up in their best gear. [emoji2]
You sure it was two hours per table?

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Surely Andy wasn't lying. [emoji23]
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You sure it was two hours per table?

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Surely Andy wasn't lying. [emoji23]
It's been shown over and over he is an extremist, fantasist who's been caught out time and time again. Not even good at it. Get him on ignore it's a far better place if all you see of the loonball is others occasionally quoting him. Anyone who persistently claims lockdown has killed more people than C19 but continues to paste mad graphs showing deaths from all causes is under 5 year averages is an absolute lunatic. The two are totally contradictory.
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9 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:

You sure it was two hours per table?

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Yip, that’s what they told us when we arrived and then went round the tables asking folk to drink up after 2 hours. 

  
But never mind, you know better because of an outdated post you found on Facebook which didn’t prove me wrong. 😂😂
 

 

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2 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said:
9 hours ago, Cookie Monster said:
You sure it was two hours per table?

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Surely Andy wasn't lying. emoji23.png

It's been shown over and over he is an extremist, fantasist who's been caught out time and time again. Not even good at it. Get him on ignore it's a far better place if all you see of the loonball is others occasionally quoting him. Anyone who persistently claims lockdown has killed more people than C19 but continues to paste mad graphs showing deaths from all causes is under 5 year averages is an absolute lunatic. The two are totally contradictory.

^^^^ Says the scumbag who used his wife’s police ID to skip a supermarket queue at the height of the pandemic to shop at a time reserved for NHS staff.

A true lowlife 

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1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

He wasn't. 🙄

Indeed. 
 

But it’s given me a good chuckle to find out that @Cookie Monster actually went to the trouble of digging out an outdated Facebook post and get it wrong yet again 😂

Even funnier to see the village idiot @Ayrshire Saints jump in to make a fool of himself yet again 😂

 

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19 hours ago, Sue Denim said:

Hospital admissions in England for heart attacks fell by a third at the start of the pandemic. By the end of May, 5,000 fewer people than expected were treated for urgent heart symptoms, with avoidable deaths likely to have occurred as people avoided hospitals.
 

Those people died as a result of the policy you support @bazil85

a policy that has saved no-one and killed thousands 

Big Drop in Heart Attack Admissions Under Lockdown

Around 5000 heart attack patients in England may have missed out on life saving hospital treatment due to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to new research published in The Lancet.

 

According to the study led by the University of Oxford, only two thirds of the expected number of patients with heart attacks were admitted to hospital between mid February and the end of March this year.

One of the authors, Chris Gale, professor of cardiovascular medicine at Leeds' School of Medicine, commented: "One of the unintended consequences of the 'stay at home' message during the peak of the pandemic is that fewer people were seeking help for medical emergencies such as a heart attack."

Prof Gale added: "People will have died or developed heart failure as a result of not seeking treatment for their heart attack."

However, Prof John Martin, professor of cardiovascular medicine, University College London, suggested via the Science Media Centre: "There may be another explanation for these findings: there may have been a real reduction in heart attacks. There is some evidence that heart attacks might be precipitated by inflammatory illnesses which cause increase in blood coagulation which may lead to clots in the coronary artery. It has been observed that the isolation of lockdown has led to a decrease in non-COVID respiratory infections (data must be checked). Therefore, the decrease in heart attack presentation in hospital may be due to a real reduction in heart attacks due to the beneficial effects of lockdown."

This suggests that lockdown is maybe not the evil you seem to think it is.

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19 minutes ago, Yflab said:

Who the feck would remortgage their home to pay for a holiday?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53421787

 

Calling it a remortgage is a bit dramatic seeing as it's only £6k.

Still. Who puts the cost of a holiday on a mortgage? 

And who spends £6k on a holiday they can't afford?

And then goes to the BBC to publicise their stupidity so the entire country can see what they've done?

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1 hour ago, smcc said:

Big Drop in Heart Attack Admissions Under Lockdown

Around 5000 heart attack patients in England may have missed out on life saving hospital treatment due to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to new research published in The Lancet.

 

According to the study led by the University of Oxford, only two thirds of the expected number of patients with heart attacks were admitted to hospital between mid February and the end of March this year.

One of the authors, Chris Gale, professor of cardiovascular medicine at Leeds' School of Medicine, commented: "One of the unintended consequences of the 'stay at home' message during the peak of the pandemic is that fewer people were seeking help for medical emergencies such as a heart attack."

Prof Gale added: "People will have died or developed heart failure as a result of not seeking treatment for their heart attack."

However, Prof John Martin, professor of cardiovascular medicine, University College London, suggested via the Science Media Centre: "There may be another explanation for these findings: there may have been a real reduction in heart attacks. There is some evidence that heart attacks might be precipitated by inflammatory illnesses which cause increase in blood coagulation which may lead to clots in the coronary artery. It has been observed that the isolation of lockdown has led to a decrease in non-COVID respiratory infections (data must be checked). Therefore, the decrease in heart attack presentation in hospital may be due to a real reduction in heart attacks due to the beneficial effects of lockdown."

This suggests that lockdown is maybe not the evil you seem to think it is.

Tell that to the families of those who have had a relative die of a preventable disease because the NHS essentially shut down for a single virus which only kills 1-2% of those who get it.

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Tell that to the families of those who have had a relative die of a preventable disease because the NHS essentially shut down for a single virus which only kills 1-2% of those who get it.
1-2% of a small number is not a lot.

1-2% of an unprecedented number is a lot of bereavement!

"Only"?

Heartless!
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2 minutes ago, Yflab said:

I fear we are going to read many more stories of people spending way beyond their means and blame it all on the nasty virus.

We're still dealing with people blaming the collapse of Northern Rock for their high mortgages.

They are trapped in high interest rate (7-9%) variable mortgages because they owe more than their house is worth. At first you think "Shit that's really unfair. Maybe it's negative equity which has caused their misfortune. They should be helped" and then you read that they knowingly and deliberately went out as fully grown functioning adults and borrowed more than 100% of the value of their house the day they bought their house. In the article, they blame the government and the lending companies. Not one word about their own personal recklessness.

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2 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

1-2% of a small number is not a lot.

1-2% of an unprecedented number is a lot of bereavement!

"Only"?

Heartless!

The percentage who die after contracting cancer is MUCH higher than that.

Exactly what game do you want to play here?

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54 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

That you equate concern for the loss of life to a "game" says it all.
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Sigh!

I actually didn't but it seems that you can't discuss anything these days without someone trying to play the "moral" card. It's tedious, annoying and I'm not engaging in it with you, TPAK thingy or anyone else who tries to use it.

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