Covid-19 Club Statement

[Bud the Baker]

According to BBCs The Nine it's "less than ideal" to be without all three keepers - Understatement of the Year!

[lenziebud]

2 hours ago, Fricky-Troll said:

FFS

wonder if the clinical advisor is a Hibs fan ?

[lenziebud]

1 hour ago, Hagleybuddies said:

I had long ago concluded that SPFL and Doncaster are f*ing useless but this reaches new heights. Sorry to say but this is the the end of Scottish fitba being respected by anybody.

Mirren to win 1-0

wish i had a pound for every time I've heard that over the years. its not actually true btw

[Hendo]

Unfortunately I can't see either Alnwick or Lyness being fit anytime soon. We all know how long it takes to recover from coronavirus.

[The Bishop]

lack of evidence ? Just seen Junior Morais getting off a plane at Glasgow Airport with a new friend and some sangria . 

 

 

 

 

[Fricky-Troll]

[Fricky-Troll]

[Fricky-Troll]

Above is the reality, yet the SPFL say play on ?

Aberdeen & Celtic had player’s defy the rules & get a postponed , we must play [emoji15]

[TPAFKA Jersey 2]

1 minute ago, Fricky-Troll said:

Above is the reality, yet the SPFL say play on ?

Aberdeen & Celtic had player’s defy the rules & get a postponed , we must play

Weren’t those decisions government edicts rather than SPFL decisions? 

[Fricky-Troll]

Weren’t those decisions government edicts rather than SPFL decisions? 

Yes, that’s my point, it’s the SPFL saying play on but the government only advised on the other two , they didn’t order it.

[TPAFKA Jersey 2]

6 minutes ago, Fricky-Troll said:

Yes, that’s my point, it’s the SPFL saying play on but the government only advised on the other two , they didn’t order it.

Ah right. I thought the other two were orders and therefore out of the SPFL’s hands. 

[Cookie Monster]

Weren’t those decisions government edicts rather than SPFL decisions? 

The Scottish government asked what the SPFL was doing about it. It was entirely the SPFL's decision.

[portmahomack saint]

On 9/11/2020 at 10:38 AM, Sue Denim said:

Indeed it’s a different scenario. Back in 99/00 the players in question WERE actually ill. 
 

The players today aren’t ill.

Interesting to note that more people died in the flu epidemic of 99/00 than have died in 2019/20 - despite there being a flu vaccine. 
 

Yet not only did we not lockdown, shut the NHS, remove people’s liberties and wreck the economy, no-one even remembers it!

They won't,  because you just made that up   

[oaksoft]

1 hour ago, Fricky-Troll said:

Above is the reality, yet the SPFL say play on ?

Aberdeen & Celtic had player’s defy the rules & get a postponed , we must play

We'll get a goalkeeper in and the game will go ahead as it should.

Relax. It'll be fine.

[oaksoft]

58 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

They won't,  because you just made that up   

What bit has he made up?

[lenziebud]

11 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

What bit has he made up?

 

 

 

Edited September 12, 2020 by lenziebud

[oaksoft]

16 hours ago, santaponsasaint said:

Game wouldn't go ahead without goalies. Specialised position. Think we were doing that under Stubbs.

 

Not true. This isn't rugby.

Remember Raith played Stevenson in their relegation battle against Ayr.

Which they lost.

And then got relegated.

Instead of us.

On the last day of the season.

Poor ha ha Raith.

Poor John ha ha ha Hughes ha ha ha...

[lenziebud]

9 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

What bit has he made up?

The last big flu outbreak occurred in 1999/2000, when 22,000 people died, which is 10 times the average for a winter flu season.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/24/health-flu-outbreak#:~:text=The last big flu outbreak,100%2C000 population for this week.

The current death rate for COVID which includes lockdowns and no vaccine is ~41k ?

 

There is another source 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

 

which says 48k excess deaths  but I guess that includes all deaths from multiple causes ?

 

So who is right ?

 

 

[oaksoft]

5 minutes ago, lenziebud said:

The last big flu outbreak occurred in 1999/2000, when 22,000 people died, which is 10 times the average for a winter flu season.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2008/dec/24/health-flu-outbreak#:~:text=The last big flu outbreak,100%2C000 population for this week.

The current death rate for COVID which includes lockdowns and no vaccine is ~41k ?

 

There is another source 

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

 

which says 48k excess deaths  but I guess that includes all deaths from multiple causes ?

 

So who is right ?

 

 

I was just about to quote that second article about 48,000 excess deaths. You can't trust that number or the current covid death numbers for the reason you stated - it'll be multiple causes underlying them and "flu" or "covid" is an easy cause of death to register.

We've not gone through a winter with covid yet and I expect that the number of excess deaths over the same physical time period will be higher this year so it's way too early for comparisons.

For the record. Sue is almost always wrong with his data. You've just got to sometimes dig to find the flaw in his statement. In this case, he's comparing two different times of the year with one of them (covid) not over yet. The only valid comparison would be when both plagues are over. Then you can look back and compare excess deaths.

[portmahomack saint]

3 hours ago, oaksoft said:

What bit has he made up?

More deaths in 99/00

[portmahomack saint]

3 hours ago, oaksoft said:

What bit has he made up?

He also said the players have no symptoms, when Jak Alnwick has and wouldn't be fit to play..  he made that up too. 

Actually think he should self isolate without a labtop 

[The Original 59er]

My wife made a very valid comment: If the same had happened to either of the old firm would the same thing have applied?

Of course not they would have tried the the SPFL to postpone, and if they were told to play like us, they would have magically come up with a 4th player testing positive and they then would fall under the SPFL's rules if 4 players from the 1st team squad test positive they can apply for a postponement.

 

We missed a late trick if you ask me. 

[bazil85]

Three positive tests at the Accies, believe they've still to be confirmed if false positives or not. Will be interested to see how much of the squad is ruled out with close contact. Got to assume the game has to go ahead given the St Mirren situation though. 

[HSS]

14 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Three positive tests at the Accies, believe they've still to be confirmed if false positives or not. Will be interested to see how much of the squad is ruled out with close contact. Got to assume the game has to go ahead given the St Mirren situation though. 

Seemingly it’s Youth players that are affected.

[Hendo]

9 hours ago, HSS said:

Seemingly it’s Youth players that are affected.

Is that not the same as their first team?

I'm not saying they are young, but one player was ruled out last week with a bad case of nappy rash.