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4 hours ago, Prague Buddie said:

You really are something else!!! 

Where did I contradict myself??

4 hours ago, Prague Buddie said:

And.... I am definitely not back peddling. 

I still feel the same way as I felt at the time of the first post. 

Longevity is key in football. If you only judge Hladky on his short time with Saints then yes he has performed to a VERY high standard. But if you judge him on his whole career as I have done, then it is bang average. 

A season and a half isn't what he will be judged on at the end of his career. 

I feel both points are linked. 
‘Hladky has been decent’ without any suggestion that was based on you watching him for a club sporadically, likely few SMFC fans have ever heard of over a 5 year period. To then you going on to agree he’s been fantastic for saints. 
 

From Legendary status only from a penalty shootout, to you then accepting he’s been fantastic in his full time here. That Also seemed contradictory to me & back peddling over your future posts. 
 

I also think it’s pretty crazy that a goalkeeper who has been consistently fantastic over an 18 month period should be considered easily replaceable because he was a back up player over 3 or 4 season before that. Surely a run of games over a significant period is far better basis to judge someone than sporadic appearances years earlier? 
 

How long does someone consistently have to play before we accept that he’s moved on from his previous level? I find it extremely harsh that you still only think he’s decent & is replaceable because of his situation years ago. 

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7 hours ago, portmahomack saint said:

Faraway's right Prague Buddie ignore him. You have more chance of converting Al Qaeda to Christianity than winning a debate with oor Bazil 

 

7 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Another half decent thread completely ruined by Baz.

It really is pathetic. Seems everyone agrees with me that Hladky is a fantastic goalkeeper but because I’m the one that’s got into the argument over the opposing opinion I’ve ruined the thread 🤷‍♂️
 

I really pity people that can’t let go of past arguments. 

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8 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

 

It really is pathetic. Seems everyone agrees with me that Hladky is a fantastic goalkeeper but because I’m the one that’s got into the argument over the opposing opinion I’ve ruined the thread 🤷‍♂️
 

I really pity people that can’t let go of past arguments. 

Opposing opinion? Where exactly did I say that Hladky is shite??? I SAID I THINK HE IS 'DECENT! What part of that don' t you understand?  

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3 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

 

It really is pathetic. Seems everyone agrees with me that Hladky is a fantastic goalkeeper but because I’m the one that’s got into the argument over the opposing opinion I’ve ruined the thread 🤷‍♂️
 

I really pity people that can’t let go of past arguments. 

Just let the guy have his own opinion, he's looking at Hladky from a different angle than the rest of us living in Czech Republic. He won't be the only one over there who's surprised how well he's done here.  

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2 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

Opposing opinion? Where exactly did I say that Hladky is shite??? I SAID I THINK HE IS 'DECENT! What part of that don' t you understand?  

Opposing not opposite 🙄🙄

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Just now, portmahomack saint said:

Just let the guy have his own opinion, he's looking at Hladky from a different angle than the rest of us living in Czech Republic. He won't be the only one over there who's surprised how well he's done here.  

You just nailed it! 

Everyone I talk to here is stunned by how well he has done at Saints. They genuinely can't believe it. Especially Liberec fans. 

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5 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

Just let the guy have his own opinion, he's looking at Hladky from a different angle than the rest of us living in Czech Republic. He won't be the only one over there who's surprised how well he's done here.  

And I have explained that it has been clearer as he has subsequently went onto expand/ explain his posts. My issue was in the context of his original post which I feel was conflicting to what he’s subsequently said. I imagine few disagree with that & I was happy to put this to bed hours ago. 

Again it seems like my view is aligned to the majority on here yet a few still jump on my posts & attack. Go figure. 

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33 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

I feel both points are linked. 
‘Hladky has been decent’ without any suggestion that was based on you watching him for a club sporadically, likely few SMFC fans have ever heard of over a 5 year period. To then you going on to agree he’s been fantastic for saints. 
 

From Legendary status only from a penalty shootout, to you then accepting he’s been fantastic in his full time here. That Also seemed contradictory to me & back peddling over your future posts. 
 

I also think it’s pretty crazy that a goalkeeper who has been consistently fantastic over an 18 month period should be considered easily replaceable because he was a back up player over 3 or 4 season before that. Surely a run of games over a significant period is far better basis to judge someone than sporadic appearances years earlier? 
 

How long does someone consistently have to play before we accept that he’s moved on from his previous level? I find it extremely harsh that you still only think he’s decent & is replaceable because of his situation years ago

You do realise that he was a Liberec player just 1 year & 4 months ago. 

Hardly years ago

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17 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

You just nailed it! 

Everyone I talk to here is stunned by how well he has done at Saints. They genuinely can't believe it. Especially Liberec fans. 

Sometimes a club is just a good fit and brings out the best in you, would hate for him to leave and then play second fiddle somewhere, it happens, I hope he stays a wee while longer he's not only a great goalie, he's the best  { my opinion } we've had, only Campbell Money comes close for his service and bravery 

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5 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

You do realise that he was a Liberec player just 1 year & 4 months ago. 

Hardly years ago

I thought he as there 2015 to 2019? But That’s even worse, you’re saying he’s average based on a shorter & more historic time period than his time at St Mirren then? Mental 

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22 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

I thought he as there 2015 to 2019? But That’s even worse, you’re saying he’s average based on a shorter & more historic time period than his time at St Mirren then? Mental 

You have completely lost me now. 

He was there from 2015 - Jan 2019. 

I said that he was still a Liberec player a year and 4 months ago

And... I never said he IS average. I said he WAS average at Liberec. 

You certainly have a way of taking people's words, twisting and using them to back your own agenda. 

Get a grip of yourself man! 

Over and out for me. 

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21 minutes ago, Prague Buddie said:

You have completely lost me now. 

He was there from 2015 - Jan 2019. 

I said that he was still a Liberec player a year and 4 months ago

And... I never said he IS average. I said he WAS average at Liberec. 

You certainly have a way of taking people's words, twisting and using them to back your own agenda. 

Get a grip of yourself man! 

Over and out for me. 

Ah okay I thought you meant FOR one year and four months, get you now. I still feel playing consistently over the last season and a half in practically EVERY game is a much better basis for the kind of player he is that sporadic games for his previous club. But if you want to judge him on that, fine.
 

A quick check also shows he hadn’t played a first team game for them since September 2018, nearly 2 years ago. Harsh to still be hanging onto that timeframe to judge a player that’s played over 50 times for a club in the last 16 months & has been a revelation. 
 

you did not say that, I already quoted you to prove you didn’t say that. I’ll do it again. As I have said, you’ve made your view clearer since then.

your original post was misleading, & I feel it highlights you’ve back-peddled. I won’t change that view sorry... I would also wager a few of my critics agree with me but they’d never admit it. 6BE099FC-87D4-4A12-800C-28FA824365DC.thumb.png.2d6d0a1f34d8934ec2da47b4cb5c97ff.png

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36 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

Ah okay I thought you meant FOR one year and four months, get you now. I still feel playing consistently over the last season and a half in practically EVERY game is a much better basis for the kind of player he is that sporadic games for his previous club. But if you want to judge him on that, fine.
 

A quick check also shows he hadn’t played a first team game for them since September 2018, nearly 2 years ago. Harsh to still be hanging onto that timeframe to judge a player that’s played over 50 times for a club in the last 16 months & has been a revelation. 
 

you did not say that, I already quoted you to prove you didn’t say that. I’ll do it again. As I have said, you’ve made your view clearer since then.

your original post was misleading, & I feel it highlights you’ve back-peddled. I won’t change that view sorry... I would also wager a few of my critics agree with me but they’d never admit it. 6BE099FC-87D4-4A12-800C-28FA824365DC.thumb.png.2d6d0a1f34d8934ec2da47b4cb5c97ff.png

Do you constantly have to be such a needy dick with a persecution complex who turns everything into a debate about you being right?

I actually agreed with you in this thread! You made good and reasoned points!

I even liked a post or two...

Then the needy argumentative f**k you poor me Baz kicked in!

Still... I probably misread the situation and will now be abused for talking to you despite some treaty of 1947 which you will quote verbatim till I lose the will to live!

My bad! Save you the trouble... tho it won't!

No Bazil... people are NOT out to get you! You DO invite arguments in the hope of a last word... and do enjoy it!

 

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35 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

Do you constantly have to be such a needy dick with a persecution complex who turns everything into a debate about you being right?

I actually agreed with you in this thread! You made good and reasoned points!

I even liked a post or two...

Then the needy argumentative f**k you poor me Baz kicked in!

Still... I probably misread the situation and will now be abused for talking to you despite some treaty of 1947 which you will quote verbatim till I lose the will to live!

My bad! Save you the trouble... tho it won't!

No Bazil... people are NOT out to get you! You DO invite arguments in the hope of a last word... and do enjoy it!

 

No you’re pretty much validating a lot of my point just by posting this. Even in a subject where people agree with me this is how it goes. It all stemmed from FS getting upset that I posted on here (agreeing with earlier posters)  & having to react. 
 

A few others jumped on the bandwagon & here we are. It could easily have just been me disagreeing with Prague Buddie. I imagine that’s all it would have been if it wasn’t for my username 👍

Heres an idea, FS, Oak, you, Antrin & others. Why don’t we just put the past behind us & just let’s comment on subjects as & when they come up?
 

Can’t we all get along? 😅

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4 hours ago, bazil85 said:

No you’re pretty much validating a lot of my point just by posting this. Even in a subject where people agree with me this is how it goes. It all stemmed from FS getting upset that I posted on here (agreeing with earlier posters)  & having to react. 
 

A few others jumped on the bandwagon & here we are. It could easily have just been me disagreeing with Prague Buddie. I imagine that’s all it would have been if it wasn’t for my username 👍

Heres an idea, FS, Oak, you, Antrin & others. Why don’t we just put the past behind us & just let’s comment on subjects as & when they come up?
 

Can’t we all get along? 😅

We could. It just requires you to understand why you cause so many problems on here.

You erroneously think it's about your opinions.

I can assure that it very much isn't.

It's all about your attitude towards others. It wasn't enough for you to hold an opposing view to Prague Buddie. Once you finally started to understand his point, after several pages, you couldn't resist accusing him of backtracking. Then you made a second dig by saying "Well you should have said that the first time". This is not how two functioning adults talk to each other.

But you won't accept that.

So here we are.

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On 5/22/2020 at 11:58 AM, Prague Buddie said:

Actually, I managed to attend 10 games last season(not bad for living 1500 miles away) and watched almost all of the remaining online. I think I only didn't manage to see maybe 2 or 3 games. .........and yes I do believe Samson was slightly better. 

Also, having lived over here for 10 years, I follow Czech football just as much as I do Scottish football, and I saw Hladky play at Liberec and Brno before that. long before anybody at St Mirren had ever heard of him. Let's just say, at no point did he ever 'set the heather on fire' over here. Hence why all the Slovan Liberec fans that I know are stunned that he is worshipped so much in Paisley.

I am not slating him, I think he is a decent keeper (since he has been at Saints) and definitely one of the better keepers we have had. But, I will be very surprised if he goes onto MUCH bigger than us. He has been able to speak to teams since January and if someone was really keen to get him, they would have him now on a PCA.

I think he will end up signing a new contract with us. I hope he does.

Aye, the guy from Prague posted this, check the time/date.

The forum pwick comes in over two and a half hours later shouting what others had said BEFORE he, Prague Buddy, clarified the amount of times he'd seen Hladky :1eye

He then, when the time gap was pointed out, STILL sticks to his view it was a reasonable response the SAME as others when it WASN'T the same, as people had suggested he'd not seen much of the goalie BEFORE he posted his point. :lol:

Then he starts his usual.................."people are picking on me" routine and he's right, everyone else is wrong. 🙈

Does anybody know him for real as I doubt he can be as much of a pwick in real life as he is on here. can he? :wink:

On 5/22/2020 at 2:37 PM, bazil85 said:

Like everyone else has said, I also can only conclude this poster hasn't seen much of Hladky. He is one of the best goalkeepers I've seen at St Mirren. Also find it strange another teams fans would be countering this by saying he was their second choice... Surely most of their fans didn't see much of him play then? 

Will be very sorry to see him go but wish him all the best, he can go far in the game. 

 

On 5/22/2020 at 2:58 PM, bazil85 said:

Yes I did, my post was a perfectly reasonable response, same as others. You need to curb this obsession bud :P 

 

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4 hours ago, oaksoft said:

We could. It just requires you to understand why you cause so many problems on here.

You erroneously think it's about your opinions.

I can assure that it very much isn't.

It's all about your attitude towards others. It wasn't enough for you to hold an opposing view to Prague Buddie. Once you finally started to understand his point, after several pages, you couldn't resist accusing him of backtracking. Then you made a second dig by saying "Well you should have said that the first time". This is not how two functioning adults talk to each other.

But you won't accept that.

So here we are.

This all stemmed from me making a similar point to other posters yet FS (as he’s highlighted above) felt the need to single me out. 
 

This was ready to be put to bed yesterday afternoon between Prague & me when I said he had made it clearer in future posts. I would be massively surprised if I’m the only one that thinks he went onto contradict himself from his first post, it was my opinion based on how the thread had played out. Never the less it was winding down. 
 

Yet others just couldn’t let it rest, it happens all the time when I post. Previously held vendettas spoil threads, not me. 👍

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3 hours ago, faraway saint said:

Aye, the guy from Prague posted this, check the time/date.

The forum pwick comes in over two and a half hours later shouting what others had said BEFORE he, Prague Buddy, clarified the amount of times he'd seen Hladky :1eye

He then, when the time gap was pointed out, STILL sticks to his view it was a reasonable response the SAME as others when it WASN'T the same, as people had suggested he'd not seen much of the goalie BEFORE he posted his point. :lol:

Then he starts his usual.................."people are picking on me" routine and he's right, everyone else is wrong. 🙈

Does anybody know him for real as I doubt he can be as much of a pwick in real life as he is on here. can he? :wink:

 

 

My conclusion is anyone that had seen Hladky regularly wouldn’t say he was ‘average’ what he had said or not. 

 

Turns out that was a correct view with Prague clarifying his view (him being decent ) is based on the last circa 5 years NOT what he seen from Hladky just at St Mirren. Hence why I feel he was contradictory, why I doubted he’d seen him play (because at this point I thought he was basing it off his time at St Mirren) and something that’s since been resolved. 
 

I genuinely don’t think many of you actually disagree with me when we look at clear contradictions and back peddling like 

 ‘I think he is a decent keeper (since he has been at Saints)’
‘He has certainly upped his game since he went to Paisley and over the last year and a half he has performed at an exceptional level. ‘
‘This
 is why I only rate him as 'decent'. Performing exceptionally for a year and a half 

 But like I say it’s done, it’s over, you’re just stirring something you had no need to be involved in  

you accuse me of impacting threads, you’re one of the main culprits in active attempts to antagonise & get a reaction. If you don’t want my interactions to go this way, drop your rule from 3 interactions to 0. If not, you’ll just have to accept I’m going nowhere. Very simple 🤷‍♂️

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