smcc Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: You self isolate to protect other people, with over 250,000 dead in the US already that's a staggeringly crass statement! The annual number of flu deaths in the USA over the past 10 years has varied from 12,000 to 61,000. I seem to remember several posters maintaining that Covid 19 was no more serious than flu. They seem to have become very quiet recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/unlockedunitedkingdom/videos/exclusive-to-unlocked-mike-yeadon/409747283542470/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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faraway saint Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 ^^^^^^^^ Does ANYBODY actually watch/read the shite he posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 I seriously doubt it, But got to admit some of his posts on the funny as feck thread are really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: I seriously doubt it, But got to admit some of his posts on the funny as feck thread are really good ALL of his post should be in that section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 16 hours ago, shull said: I think anyone called active patriot is a minor irritation away from carrying out a school shooting. I wouldn't hang about with them, not even virtually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slarti Posted November 21, 2020 Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 ^^^^^^^^ Does ANYBODY actually watch/read the shite he posts?I don't even see it, never mind watch/read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, shull said: That can't be right, you said it was all a hoax? Not the full shilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ayrshire Saints Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 That's because it isn't. Admissions have FALLEN at a decent rate with ICU not showing any real increase. Plus all hospitals are split into Covid and non Covid channels. With a dislocated elbow you would be nowhere near a Covid ward so as FS says with less demand (less of the usual cut finger brigade clogging up A & E due in part to better triage procedures) there is a better functioning service. I suspect given hospitalization numbers in certain areas a Covid channel would be far less serene.Anecdotes like this should be better publicised as it would encourage more of the people with the serious illnesses that we keep hearing are on the rise due to C19 to get them investigated immediately. The NHS is functioning and the medical boffins keep telling us this almost every day yet we still have this over arching message that we need to avoid overwhelming the NHS. Yes Covid wards will be busy and yes that is a drain on human resources but there really is no need for someone who suspects they may have cancer etc to not present themselves at the earliest opportunity, it beggars belief that folk are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 22 hours ago, shull said: What does this prove? If you applied the same criteria to flu deaths the figures be exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Go for a lunchtime Pint. I will pay for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Go for a lunchtime Pint. I will pay for itAnchor Bar on Gauze Street is open. See you there soon with your purse. [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hendo Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Ayrshire Saints said: Plus all hospitals are split into Covid and non Covid channels. With a dislocated elbow you would be nowhere near a Covid ward so as FS says with less demand (less of the usual cut finger brigade clogging up A & E due in part to better triage procedures) there is a better functioning service. I suspect given hospitalization numbers in certain areas a Covid channel would be far less serene. Anecdotes like this should be better publicised as it would encourage more of the people with the serious illnesses that we keep hearing are on the rise due to C19 to get them investigated immediately. The NHS is functioning and the medical boffins keep telling us this almost every day yet we still have this over arching message that we need to avoid overwhelming the NHS. Yes Covid wards will be busy and yes that is a drain on human resources but there really is no need for someone who suspects they may have cancer etc to not present themselves at the earliest opportunity, it beggars belief that folk are not. I think the point is, though, while hospitals are split into covid and non covid areas, staffing would be reflective of pressures in the whole hospital, so if the covid ward was busy, you would expect staff would be redeployed there, and there would not be two consultants, two student doctors and three nurses to sort a dislocated elbow (not that I'm complaining about the excellent service, but it really isn't indicative of a service under pressure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Watched the start, he claimed as fact that less than 350 deaths from covid have been recorded in folk under the age of 60.He quoted ONS, so I looked at the ONS figures and the first one I seen was the corresponding deaths of males in the age group 15-44. Total 386.Why are folk posting these lies.On Monday my friend was buried because he contracted covid. He was 56 years of age. I hope, I really do that none of you have to face a widow of this like I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said: Watched the start, he claimed as fact that less than 350 deaths from covid have been recorded in folk under the age of 60. He quoted ONS, so I looked at the ONS figures and the first one I seen was the corresponding deaths of males in the age group 15-44. Total 386. Why are folk posting these lies. On Monday my friend was buried because he contracted covid. He was 56 years of age. I hope, I really do that none of you have to face a widow of this like I have. As soon as I seen he was using "free speech" as his foundation I stopped. Utter fcukwits. They "use" free speech to spout lies and extreme views, quite why, as you say, is beyond me but people will do/say anything. Edited November 22, 2020 by faraway saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, faraway saint said: As soon as I seen he was using "free speech" as his foundation I stopped. Utter fcukwits. They "use" free speech to spout lies and extreme views, quite why, as you say, is beyond me but people will do/say anything. Anything on the internet that claims to be "Mind blowing" is, without exception, unadulterated shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, faraway saint said: As soon as I seen he was using "free speech" as his foundation I stopped. Utter fcukwits. They "use" free speech to spout lies and extreme views, quite why, as you say, is beyond me but people will do/say anything. I think the problem is the debate has been polarised between right wing morons spouting nonsense, and those in support of the current establishment response. This means that those with rationale and legitimate concerns about measures that are put in place are labelled as 'covidiots' and rationale debate isn't allowed. Question the figures from government, or take the view that current restrictions are disproportionate to the threat, and suddenly you must be a Trump supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted November 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Hendo said: I think the problem is the debate has been polarised between right wing morons spouting nonsense, and those in support of the current establishment response. This means that those with rationale and legitimate concerns about measures that are put in place are labelled as 'covidiots' and rationale debate isn't allowed. Question the figures from government, or take the view that current restrictions are disproportionate to the threat, and suddenly you must be a Trump supporter. Christ, I'm in both camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Anything on the internet that claims to be "Mind blowing" is, without exception, unadulterated shite.You've obviously not looked down the barrel of this guys gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Russian Saint said: Somebody else trying to make money out the naive and gullible. The sooner the law catches up and starts fining the unregulated media the better. Disappointed Russian Saint. You usually have some decent points to make. Edited November 22, 2020 by ALBIONSAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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