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8 minutes ago, ICC said:

If every fan of the 40 Diddy Clubs refuse to purchase a Season Ticket until the Sectarian Colts are removed then the Bigot infestation wont fecking happen.

Be brave

For me right now it needs to be Lowland League fans voting with their feet, the professional structure has no real power to force action at that level (although granted SPFL/ SFA could have went on record saying they won't be able to nominate a champion if Celtic/ Rangers Colts win the league). I do hope they all see drops in season ticket uptake and home attendance at these games so we can chalk this down to a single season of awful decision making at that level. 

If they are agreed to enter at any level of the professional structure or promotion is approved in a members vote (believe would still need to pass the 11-1) I won't be buying a season ticket or giving St Mirren a penny again, I know some might make these claims and they end up unfounded, but I am resolute on not going back to St Mirren if that happens. 

*caveat, unless there is an agreement through a majority fan vote on letting colts join the league which I seriously doubt would ever happen, also on the record don't see St Mirren ever voting yes to Colts in their currently discussed form. I note Berwick Rangers claimed they had a members vote which seen slightly more than 50% in favour of Colts, if that is indeed all genuine and the votes were only those of fans, not shareholders and people linked directly to the club then fine but I have pretty big reservations given another team did the same with over 90% of fans against the proposal. 

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If every fan of the 40 Diddy Clubs refuse to purchase a Season Ticket until the Sectarian Colts are removed then the Bigot infestation wont fecking happen.
Be brave
Firstly, calling other teams "diddy clubs" is something only fans of a certain two clubs should do.

Show some respect!

Secondly, when Rangers were being offered a free pass back into the higher leagues and boycott was suggested, most of our own fans bought the "Armageddon" arguement and we're happy to continue going to games.

Double standards.
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5 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

Firstly, calling other teams "diddy clubs" is something only fans of a certain two clubs should do.

Show some respect!

Secondly, when Rangers were being offered a free pass back into the higher leagues and boycott was suggested, most of our own fans bought the "Armageddon" arguement and we're happy to continue going to games.

Double standards.

We are Diddy Clubs. All 40 of us.

It's a term of endearment in a jocular way.

Meaning really, we dinnae care what Celtic and Sevco think about us.

I am proud that I am a fan of one of the 40 Diddy Clubs

And I will celebrate any one of the 40 getting it right up the Sectarian Cnuts.

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11 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:



Secondly, when Rangers were being offered a free pass back into the higher leagues and boycott was suggested, most of our own fans bought the "Armageddon" arguement and we're happy to continue going to games.

Double standards.

Let's do the right thing this time or before you know it, the Sectarian Colt Cnuts will be in the SPFL Championship or even the Premiership.

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We are Diddy Clubs. All 40 of us.
It's a term of endearment in a jocular way.
Meaning really, we dinnae care what Celtic and Sevco think about us.
I am proud that I am a fan of one of the 40 Diddy Clubs
And I will celebrate any one of the 40 getting it right up the Sectarian Cnuts.
Fair enough.
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30 minutes ago, ICC said:

We are Diddy Clubs. All 40 of us.

It's a term of endearment in a jocular way.

Meaning really, we dinnae care what Celtic and Sevco think about us.

I am proud that I am a fan of one of the 40 Diddy Clubs

And I will celebrate any one of the 40 getting it right up the Sectarian Cnuts.

IMO all Scottish clubs are "diddy clubs" now when you look at elite football. Celtic & Sevco are just bigger fish in a small pond. Think this was shown when Sevco fans wet their knickers at getting to the last 16 of the secondary European tournament, one that many bigger clubs look on as almost meaningless bar the Champions League qualifying space. 

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1 hour ago, bazil85 said:

IMO all Scottish clubs are "diddy clubs" now when you look at elite football. Celtic & Sevco are just bigger fish in a small pond. Think this was shown when Sevco fans wet their knickers at getting to the last 16 of the secondary European tournament, one that many bigger clubs look on as almost meaningless bar the Champions League qualifying space. 

The only reason Celtic and Sevco are not bigger clubs on the European stage is because of the size of the TV deal we get.

You are not telling me that either of those clubs are smaller than Tottenham, Chelsea, and Leicester as examples in terms of global fan reach if they were in the English leagues.

I’d love to see the back of them from our game. These colt teams are merely Trojan horse moves by both clubs hierarchy. It’s imperative that the SPFL clubs in the top 4 divisions don’t swallow the bigot pound.

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19 hours ago, Yflab said:

The only reason Celtic and Sevco are not bigger clubs on the European stage is because of the size of the TV deal we get.

You are not telling me that either of those clubs are smaller than Tottenham, Chelsea, and Leicester as examples in terms of global fan reach if they were in the English leagues.

I’d love to see the back of them from our game. These colt teams are merely Trojan horse moves by both clubs hierarchy. It’s imperative that the SPFL clubs in the top 4 divisions don’t swallow the bigot pound.

I think the idea they are still big clubs on a global scale is becoming more & more dated. With every generation that passes, the kids raised of non-Scottish based Celtic & Rangers fans families are less & less likely to support Scottish based teams. 
 

With social media, FIFA, player commercialisation & ever improving & accessible better competition, there is more chance they support & follow the teams (or individual players) being thrown down their necks. 
 

Celtic & Rangers are still sizeable clubs & if they went to EPL for example I have little doubt they would quickly claw back some of the global shine & exposure they’ve lost, however for me right now you need to look holistically. 
- club strength 

- exposure 

- financial capability 

- current global appeal. 
 

All these things considered, in recent years & likely going forward, they’re just a couple of other ‘diddy teams’ in Scottish football. 

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It's getting to be every season now, I haven't seen much on if there has been any changes to the proposal to make it fairer and beneficial to Scottish football/ national team. If they are yet again flogging the same dead horse proposal, they need to be told once and for all to F off. 

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Is this a annual event now? Suppose they will just keep going until they win. Should counter propose that their first teams are kicked out instead. Let clubs know you are not having this.have they waited until season tickets have been sold at a lot of clubs to cover people saying they will not buy them if this comes to pass?

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53 minutes ago, guinness said:

Is this a annual event now? Suppose they will just keep going until they win. Should counter propose that their first teams are kicked out instead. Let clubs know you are not having this.have they waited until season tickets have been sold at a lot of clubs to cover people saying they will not buy them if this comes to pass?

Would love to see a similar response to the Super League breakaway on this. Stop asking as fans don't want it, if you do there will be repercussions. 

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On 5/29/2021 at 10:10 AM, bazil85 said:

I think the idea they are still big clubs on a global scale is becoming more & more dated. With every generation that passes, the kids raised of non-Scottish based Celtic & Rangers fans families are less & less likely to support Scottish based teams. 
 

With social media, FIFA, player commercialisation & ever improving & accessible better competition, there is more chance they support & follow the teams (or individual players) being thrown down their necks. 
 

Celtic & Rangers are still sizeable clubs & if they went to EPL for example I have little doubt they would quickly claw back some of the global shine & exposure they’ve lost, however for me right now you need to look holistically. 
- club strength 

- exposure 

- financial capability 

- current global appeal. 
 

All these things considered, in recent years & likely going forward, they’re just a couple of other ‘diddy teams’ in Scottish football. 

Couldn't agree more. My local would rather put on an English League 1 game than the Rangers v Celtic

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12 minutes ago, Gosport Buddie said:

Couldn't agree more. My local would rather put on an English League 1 game than the Rangers v Celtic

This was from March 2018.

A total of 541,000 tuned in to the classic clash and was the third-most watched programme on Sky Sports Football and enjoyed the fourth biggest viewing figures on Sky Sports Main Event for that week, according to BARB data.

This from Jan 2020.

 

Rangers derby victory over Celtic blew the Premiership title race wide open - and smashed TV viewing figure records at the same time.

The Ibrox club's first win at Celtic Park in nine years attracted a global audience which is unmatched in the SPFL era.

It's better than the average audience an English Premier League match enjoys which currently stands at a little over a million.

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5 hours ago, faraway saint said:

This was from March 2018.

A total of 541,000 tuned in to the classic clash and was the third-most watched programme on Sky Sports Football and enjoyed the fourth biggest viewing figures on Sky Sports Main Event for that week, according to BARB data.

This from Jan 2020.

 

Rangers derby victory over Celtic blew the Premiership title race wide open - and smashed TV viewing figure records at the same time.

The Ibrox club's first win at Celtic Park in nine years attracted a global audience which is unmatched in the SPFL era.

It's better than the average audience an English Premier League match enjoys which currently stands at a little over a million.

This proves Bazil and GB's point, the old firm currently rank as an average attraction on a par with the average EPL club.  there are some english clubs  that are way above average in terms of viewing figures and some way below.  Most of that audience would have been in Scotland and bolstered by the numbers that would normally attend or watch the game in a pub..  Being big in SPFL terms doesn't necessarily put you in the forefront of the world stage.

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1 hour ago, beyond our ken said:

This proves Bazil and GB's point, the old firm currently rank as an average attraction on a par with the average EPL club.  there are some english clubs  that are way above average in terms of viewing figures and some way below.  Most of that audience would have been in Scotland and bolstered by the numbers that would normally attend or watch the game in a pub..  Being big in SPFL terms doesn't necessarily put you in the forefront of the world stage.

I would suggest that being ABOVE the average EPL team put's the Old Form in the "very attractive" bracket for Sky, which is just as well as Sky would probably pull out of Scottish football altogether.

Certainly NOT waning in term of viewing figures, despite some who like to think they are.

For a small country they certainly are punching above their weight. 

 

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1 hour ago, beyond our ken said:

This proves Bazil and GB's point, the old firm currently rank as an average attraction on a par with the average EPL club.  there are some english clubs  that are way above average in terms of viewing figures and some way below.  Most of that audience would have been in Scotland and bolstered by the numbers that would normally attend or watch the game in a pub..  Being big in SPFL terms doesn't necessarily put you in the forefront of the world stage.

Obviously.........................but still, considering Scotland is a very small pond, quite a high profile.

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Quite a few interesting numbers here...................don't misunderstand me, in world football both the OF are not going to threaten the real big boys.

http://priceoffootball.com/celtic-and-rangers-2019-20-the-watchman/

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8 hours ago, faraway saint said:

This was from March 2018.

A total of 541,000 tuned in to the classic clash and was the third-most watched programme on Sky Sports Football and enjoyed the fourth biggest viewing figures on Sky Sports Main Event for that week, according to BARB data.

This from Jan 2020.

 

Rangers derby victory over Celtic blew the Premiership title race wide open - and smashed TV viewing figure records at the same time.

The Ibrox club's first win at Celtic Park in nine years attracted a global audience which is unmatched in the SPFL era.

It's better than the average audience an English Premier League match enjoys which currently stands at a little over a million.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-vs-celtic-viewing-figures-12231102.amp
 

Feel everything needs to be looked at in relative context. It was third on the channel behind a championship game between Nottingham Forrest & Derby + soccer Saturday. 
 

The top fixture in Scotland is tiny compared to what it once was. Interest has dwindled in Scottish football overall & Celtic/ Rangers are not immune to that. That doesn’t mean flickers of interest will increase linked to the importance of the fixture (like in 2020) 

The longer it goes 4 to 7 times a domestic season + a 2 horse race in Scotland, the less interest the fixture will command. Fans have too many options to increase their relevance considerably. 

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12 minutes ago, bazil85 said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-vs-celtic-viewing-figures-12231102.amp
 

Feel everything needs to be looked at in relative context. It was third on the channel behind a championship game between Nottingham Forrest & Derby + soccer Saturday. 
 

The top fixture in Scotland is tiny compared to what it once was. Interest has dwindled in Scottish football overall & Celtic/ Rangers are not immune to that. That doesn’t mean flickers of interest will increase linked to the importance of the fixture (like in 2020) 

The longer it goes 4 to 7 times a domestic season + a 2 horse race in Scotland, the less interest the fixture will command. Fans have too many options to increase their relevance considerably. 

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And above another 2 EPL matches and a Barcelona game, aye, context. 

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44 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

And above another 2 EPL matches and a Barcelona game, aye, context. 

Yep, context. As already said to you, we are talking about the biggest game in Scotland. What historically was arguably considered one of the top five derbies in world football. Domestically 2 clubs that can still take 50k+ home fans a week. 
 

It is strong evidence away from home their interest has fallen when they can’t beat viewership for a reasonably big championship game or bang average EPL games. This was my originally point, that the interest away from home has fallen from where it was. 
 

Edit: also, what are the 2 EPL games? I can only see Arsenal which I think is a bit strange, (maybe the crossover with Nottingham Forrest a factor)  

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