beyond our ken Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Is it not a bit of a waste of time to bringing these young guys through and then them buggering off to Dumbarton because we offer absurdly low wages? You know for sure that this is the whole story? Maybe he's been given a low offer as a hint that he should look elsewhere. I'd like to think that regular first team football at Dumbarton should pay more than youth football or bench warming at St Mirren. Some of the boys are worth keeping, this one evidently is, but only at a very low price. I'll trust the management on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Maybe. But according to that article the boys were on £85 a week. If he is now being offered £120 a week surely that is a good increase? A 40% increase is good in the present climate. If our management are convinced he won't make our first team squad then presumably he can earn more playing for a first division team. No doubt we'll hear how he gets on over the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 St Mirren could easily afford to double that budget, and should! Twenty young guys with something to prove would be worth a lot more than one or two old journeymen pros in the first team. Smith was deemed good enough to get a game against Kilmarnock, he should have been pushing for the first team this season. 18 isn't really a kid any more in football either. Hope the boy knows what he is doing anyway! I think you'll find that those with true promise get better offers. For an eighteen year old who has proved nothing it seems to me churlish and short-sighted to turn down the offer to work with some master craftsmen. The one year deal also gave him options, if he made the grade and attracted another club then he could have walked for minimal compensation. Like his dad, too thick to see the big picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 I think you'll find that those with true promise get better offers. For an eighteen year old who has proved nothing it seems to me churlish and short-sighted to turn down the offer to work with some master craftsmen. The one year deal also gave him options, if he made the grade and attracted another club then he could have walked for minimal compensation. Like his dad, too thick to see the big picture I hope you're right and suspect you are. There are (allegedly) guys who post on this forum who think £100 is too much. Just as well they don't get to make the decisions. We'd be passing Rangers on our way down in no time. I like us being in the top league, whatever the hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Guys, I don't think it was the money. I reckon it was the length of the contract.I think he will find it tougher to replace St Mirren than we will to replace Jack Smith. Edited June 13, 2013 by davidg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Yoda Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Guys, I don't think it was the money. I reckon it was the length of the contract. I think he will find it tougher to replace St Mirren than we will to replace Jack Smith. I don't think a 1 year contract for an unproven 18 yr old is too unfair. If he thinks he can earn more/longer at another established SPL club good luck to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Guys not worth a thread FFS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Is he actually away or is he negotiating. Might find some back tracking soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_the_saint Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 (edited) I don't think a 1 year contract for an unproven 18 yr old is too unfair. If he thinks he can earn more/longer at another established SPL club good luck to him. I'd be surprised at that. Yaqub and Brady only signed 1 year deals. It seems he sees himself in the same bracket as these two, which is fair enough, so he'd probably be happy with the same deal they got. He is still very lightweight compared to those two so perhaps the club still believe in his ability but want to see if he matures physically? Edited June 14, 2013 by steve_the_saint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstretchuk Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 who cares if this wee fanny signs or not...to lightweight and skinny....get tae f**k...enjoy playing amateur or 3rd division..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 who cares if this wee fanny signs or not...to lightweight and skinny....get tae f**k...enjoy playing amateur or 3rd division..... You really are a pretty revolting scrap of humanity. Why don't you piss away off to an OF website and give us a rest from your utterly sickening spleen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 You really are a pretty revolting scrap of humanity. Why don't you piss away off to an OF website and give us a rest from your utterly sickening spleen. I agree gstretchuk is a cock but to be fair he's got a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 FFS, GIE'S A SIGNING!!!!! We are clearly struggling to find anything to talk about on here when we're tearing the arse right our of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledfan Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 FFS, GIE'S A SIGNING!!!!! We are clearly struggling to find anything to talk about on here when we're tearing the arse right our of this one. Have you seen some of the other topics? We are clearly running outof stuff to talk about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickysmfc Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 Has he officially left us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Who cares? About what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 About what? Traffic light protocol while stationary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 About what? Wee smiffy has he gone is he staying? REALLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosport Buddie Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Jack Smith has tweeted that he's planning going away for a golfing weekend in September, so obviously not planning on playing for anyone this season !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Jack Smith has tweeted that he's planning going away for a golfing weekend in September, so obviously not planning on playing for anyone this season !!!!!!! f**k me. There is an international weekend in September...the players will be off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovestreet Posted June 19, 2013 Report Share Posted June 19, 2013 Wee fud who we are gladly getting shot of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillieFan! Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Is he any good? apparently he's coming on trial with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Is he any good? apparently he's coming on trial with us.With time he could blossom into a good player, he has potential but his main downfall is he's so lightweight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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