Women's World Cup Final. Yanks v Holland

[Guest TPAFKATS]

Referee allows argentina to take free which leads directly to penalty while we have only 10 players on the park during a substitution. The penalty was saved.
If VAR is going to say that's a retake by freezing the frame to see if the keeper has moved a few inches from the line then football as a spectator spirt is finished.
Also if there is 4 minutes of added time and that is almost totally taken up by a penalty farce then its 7 or 8 minutes added time?
Officials so far out of their depth

[Eric Arthur Blair]

So the penalty was awarded after 89 minutes, 4 minutes of added time is indicated, and due to the VAR delay and the retake there is only one minute of actual play after their third goal?

[faraway saint]

2 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said:

So the penalty was awarded after 89 minutes, 4 minutes of added time is indicated, and due to the VAR delay and the retake there is only one minute of actual play after their third goal?

Referee looked like a rabbit in the headlights. 

[faraway saint]

The focus will be on VAR.......................more should be looked at the defensive decisions, absolute amateur. 

I take it back, Arbroath are much better. 

[Dirty Sanchez]

I wasn't aware that goalkeepers leaving their line at penalties was a big issue that needed addressing.

Apparently FIFA did!  It's working out pretty well so far,eh?  Explains the Hladky stuff in the play-off.

The number of referees who are honking at the job makes things hard enough without giving them shitey guidelines within which to enforce daft rules.

Handball has needed addressing for years. They've finally addressed it and made it f*cking worse. 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

9 minutes ago, Dirty Sanchez said:

I wasn't aware that goalkeepers leaving their line at penalties was a big issue that needed addressing.

Apparently FIFA did!  It's working out pretty well so far,eh?  Explains the Hladky stuff in the play-off.

Actually, the rule when we beat Utd was that BOTH feet had to be on the line when the ball was struck, now it's only one.

The new rule shouldn't have much of an impact in the SP as we don't have VAR but the EPL next season is going to be interesting to see how strictly the new rule is enforced..

Incidentally, this was from last night, with the new rule in place but not applied.

 

[Balmullo Bud]

Thank fek we didn’t have VAR watching Hladky in the shootout against the Arabs.
Scotland did a Scotland tonight unfortunately. Poor reffing, poor game management by the players and poor management decisions re changes.

[DougJamie]

Well i was entertained. Unlike the men. Well done ladies did us proud

[oaksoft]

1 hour ago, faraway saint said:

Why not?

I can compare the standard to the mens game, in fact I just did,

 

To get a fair comparison, you would need to compare the current womens game with the mens game at the same stage of development - around 1900 (the year, not 7pm). To compare with the modern mens game is like comparing a child to a full grown adult - stupid and pointless.

I really shouldn't have to explain this but TBF I keep forgetting that you need to be breastfed through everything. 🤣

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Didn't really notice this at the time but I have never seen a ref not delay play until such time as a sub in in position.

 

[faraway saint]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

To get a fair comparison, you would need to compare the current womens game with the mens game at the same stage of development - around 1900 (the year, not 7pm). To compare with the modern mens game is like comparing a child to a full grown adult - stupid and pointless.

I really shouldn't have to explain this but TBF I keep forgetting that you need to be breastfed through everything. 🤣

No, you wouldn't. 

You are forgetting, and it's ok because you know nothing about football, that the women are using tried and tested training methods and tactics used by the men so therefore they are not starting from the same position men were back in any time you care to conjure up. 

It's fair to compare the current standard to the mens game and the development the women have made, albeit in a much shorter time. 

You constantly show you are a fool in anything football related.

I have read many of your "match day" comments.............................playing to the crowd, using BBC stats and showing no understanding of the game.

Now, you have no TV, you only watch football on a small computer screen, you have not attended any football matches, never mind St Mirren matches.

Why are you on a St Mirren football forum? 

[shull]

23 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

No, you wouldn't. 

You are forgetting, and it's ok because you know nothing about football, that the women are using tried and tested training methods and tactics used by the men so therefore they are not starting from the same position men were back in any time you care to conjure up. 

It's fair to compare the current standard to the mens game and the development the women have made, albeit in a much shorter time. 

You constantly show you are a fool in anything football related.

I have read many of your "match day" comments.............................playing to the crowd, using BBC stats and showing no understanding of the game.

Now, you have no TV, you only watch football on a small computer screen, you have not attended any football matches, never mind St Mirren matches.

Why are you on a St Mirren football forum? 

Can I stay, even though I am not attending anymore Matches ?  

[faraway saint]

2 minutes ago, shull said:

Can I stay, even though I am not attending anymore Matches ?  

Aye, you'll take the heat off of me. 

[BuddieinEK]

Retake?
Really?

Penalised for being quick to react... Quick enough to save a penalty despite the new rules.

Why not just handcuff the keeper to one post?

[oaksoft]

3 hours ago, faraway saint said:

No, you wouldn't. 

You are forgetting, and it's ok because you know nothing about football, that the women are using tried and tested training methods and tactics used by the men so therefore they are not starting from the same position men were back in any time you care to conjure up. 

It's fair to compare the current standard to the mens game and the development the women have made, albeit in a much shorter time. 

 

I'm not sure if it's a lack of women in your life to educate you or whether you just don't care but for what it's worth let me fill you in on the reality for young girls who want to play football.

The damage is done at a very young age (5 to 16 yrs old). That crucial 10,000 hours you might have heard of in the men's game? MUCH harder to get for girls.

There are significantly fewer opportunities for girls to play football than for boys for a start.

There is less competition and the standard doesn't allow for the very best in the country to fully achieve their potential. A bit like trapping Celtic in Scotland and wondering why they struggle against mid-level teams in Europe.

There are fewer girls clubs than boys. Fewer leagues. Fewer coaches at that level. Less money in the girls game so it's harder to get things like pitches etc.

It doesn't matter who then coaches them at 16 to 18 because the damage has been done in the previous decade.

There is no genetic reason whatsoever why women's football should be worse than men's football.

This is about money, opportunity and attitude.

More than that, it's about educating stupid old men who haven't a clue what they are talking about.

[saintargyll]

Scotland Hibz it 

[farmer john]

I was out working early yesterday morning, listening to Radio Scotland on my wee tranny. Yes, I still have my fave wee tranny

When I heard Erin Cuthert say, something along the lines of.
"If we bring our A Game then we KNOW Argentina cant live with us"........my heart shudderred and blood ran cold!
I knew there and there Scotland ladies were O.U.T oot.
Over confidence, hubris,over estimation of skill......secretly cocky.
VAR is absolute utter shite though. As many have said, some before last night's penalty kick farce. It will be the ruination of the game.

[guinness]

The next penalty shoot out should be fun. Could take hours if they are as strict.

[faraway saint]

4 hours ago, oaksoft said:

I'm not sure if it's a lack of women in your life to educate you or whether you just don't care but for what it's worth let me fill you in on the reality for young girls who want to play football.

The damage is done at a very young age (5 to 16 yrs old). That crucial 10,000 hours you might have heard of in the men's game? MUCH harder to get for girls.

There are significantly fewer opportunities for girls to play football than for boys for a start.

There is less competition and the standard doesn't allow for the very best in the country to fully achieve their potential. A bit like trapping Celtic in Scotland and wondering why they struggle against mid-level teams in Europe.

There are fewer girls clubs than boys. Fewer leagues. Fewer coaches at that level. Less money in the girls game so it's harder to get things like pitches etc.

It doesn't matter who then coaches them at 16 to 18 because the damage has been done in the previous decade.

There is no genetic reason whatsoever why women's football should be worse than men's football.

This is about money, opportunity and attitude.

More than that, it's about educating stupid old men who haven't a clue what they are talking about.

Eh? 🤡

Utter bluster and nothing to do with the point comparing women's football to another comparable standard.

I would suggest that the physical attributes will ensure there are ALWAYS a gulf between women and mens football.

This isn't BLOW FOOTBALL, your speciality, we are talking about is it? 

You show, again, you know nothing about football. 

PS In your attempts to cloud the issue you seem to think that I was being detrimental to women's football. 

Edited June 20, 2019 by faraway saint

[faraway saint]

I feel sorry for Argentina, if the additional time had been played out they could have scored again and went through, tragedy. 

[faraway saint]

I wonder if last nights referee will get another game?

The authorities will be livid she's contributed to the rules being the centre of attention rather than celebrating the tournament. 

Edited June 20, 2019 by faraway saint

[southsidebud]

8 hours ago, BuddieinEK said:

Retake?
Really?

Penalised for being quick to react... Quick enough to save a penalty despite the new rules.

Why not just handcuff the keeper to one post?

Thats an interesting photo - too close to call surely!

[faraway saint]

1 minute ago, southsidebud said:

Thats an interesting photo - too close to call surely!

The replays showed she, Scottish goalie, had her feet just off the line when the ball was struck.

Harsh, aye possibly. 

Wonder if there would the same furore if this was about the Argentinian goalie? 

[southsidebud]

The ref was abysmal last night - the VAR decisions were probably correct (although photo shared by BEK makes it look a lot closer) but they have not been made consistently throughout the tournament and in our games especially. We seem to fall on the wrong side of the outcome every time the decision is taken to either use VAR or not.

That said - we lost a 3-0 lead in 15 mins - so you can't really complain too much about going out. We were unable to deal with the pressure.

Also I seem to remember being told that the defending team should never make a substitution when facing a potentially goal scoring set piece - I don't think the coach should have made the substitution at the free kick that lead to the penalty. 'Game Management' was also poor.

Edited June 20, 2019 by southsidebud

[southsidebud]

3 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

The replays showed she, Scottish goalie, had her feet just off the line when the ball was struck.

Harsh, aye possibly. 

Wonder if there would the same furore if this was about the Argentinian goalie? 

Naw - cos she'd have been cheating 🙂