Ethan Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 This was a bad deal for the club but glad we can now close the chapter on this guy. We need players who have ability and the right attitude. Sadly he never had either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turrabuddie Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 This was a bad deal for the club but glad we can now close the chapter on this guy. We need players who have ability and the right attitude. Sadly he never had either. No idea about his ability (hardly ever played) but certainly the wrong attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, turrabuddie said: 40 minutes ago, Ethan said: This was a bad deal for the club but glad we can now close the chapter on this guy. We need players who have ability and the right attitude. Sadly he never had either. No idea about his ability (hardly ever played) but certainly the wrong attitude. As my best friend once said when he broke off an engagement - "Good riddance, I 've cut my losses and I can now get on with life". To be fair he dodged a bullet and then found his other half. Never seen him happier than these past 15 years. Hope it is the same for us. Time to move on from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Will he be the last to go. Hmm maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ethan said: Will he be the last to go. Hmm maybe not. A couple more I would reckon. Edited July 19, 2019 by pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, pod said: A couple more I would reckon. I think Kellerman might be next, couldn't get off the bench while we were toiling against lower league opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 hour ago, shull said: Because you're the Tartan Terror and despise our friends down South. WTF ??? For someone who claims to abhor bigotry (citing it as a major factor in you stopping financially supporting the club i.e. you are no longer a supporter now just a follower) and prejudice you don't half bang on about it. You have had one spectacularly public breakdown on here over the last 2-3 years. From the super optimistic uber fan to a sad non attending multi alias troll in a remarkably short space of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 hours ago, mattman said: 👋🏼 There goes a big chunk of Goody's budget for new players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: There goes a big chunk of Goody's budget for new players! Or , it free's up a wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: WTF ??? For someone who claims to abhor bigotry (citing it as a major factor in you stopping financially supporting the club i.e. you are no longer a supporter now just a follower) and prejudice you don't half bang on about it. You have had one spectacularly public breakdown on here over the last 2-3 years. From the super optimistic uber fan to a sad non attending multi alias troll in a remarkably short space of time. So what was up with the post you quoted ? Nothing untrue about it. Anyway, I am so happy and feel totally cleansed. Not funding corrupt and cheating football and our bigot loving club has been the making of me. All is wonderful and calm. You seem rattled though. Do you want a wee cuddle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, munoz said: Or , it free's up a wage. What paying up two years of a players contract? Yeah i suppose in two years time it will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Lord Pityme said: What paying up two years of a players contract? Yeah i suppose in two years time it will! You don't know that for sure. A waste of money anyway that best sums up Stubbs legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: What paying up two years of a players contract? Yeah i suppose in two years time it will! It won’t be two years wages , if they do that it’s like a gardening leave ,were he can’t play for any other clubs until his contract is up , it will be a settlement that allows him to sign elsewhere IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, linwood buddie said: It won’t be two years wages , if they do that it’s like a gardening leave ,were he can’t play for any other clubs until his contract is up , it will be a settlement that allows him to sign elsewhere IMO. Usually a percentage of his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, munoz said: You don't know that for sure. A waste of money anyway that best sums up Stubbs legacy. He will have gone with more than a year's wages. Given he hasnt kicked a ball for months and is about attractive to other clubs as Joey Barton, why would he go for less. He can sit on the training field on his tod for two more years and still get well paid. ffs start accepting reality bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, linwood buddie said: It won’t be two years wages , if they do that it’s like a gardening leave ,were he can’t play for any other clubs until his contract is up , it will be a settlement that allows him to sign elsewhere IMO. Gardening leave means you are still an employee, on the payroll get your pension contributions and bonuses etc. He has agreed a deal based on the two remaining years of his contract. What would you go for in his shoes knowing its unlikely any club is bursting down the door to sign you? it will be over a year's wages, otherwise he would be better off just sitting tight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: He will have gone with more than a year's wages. Given he hasnt kicked a ball for months and is about attractive to other clubs as Joey Barton, why would he go for less. He can sit on the training field on his tod for two more years and still get well paid. ffs start accepting reality bud. Another couple of years and he will be as attractive as Josh Heaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, munoz said: Usually a percentage of his contract. What like 99% same question to you. If you were in his shoes, with little chance of getting a club, what would you take to walk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said: Gardening leave means you are still an employee, on the payroll get your pension contributions and bonuses etc. He has agreed a deal based on the two remaining years of his contract. What would you go for in his shoes knowing its unlikely any club is bursting down the door to sign you? it will be over a year's wages, otherwise he would be better off just sitting tight! But but but Middlesbrough wanted him 🤷♂️🙈😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, Lord Pityme said: He will have gone with more than a year's wages. Given he hasnt kicked a ball for months and is about attractive to other clubs as Joey Barton, why would he go for less. He can sit on the training field on his tod for two more years and still get well paid. ffs start accepting reality bud. Nah, cant see that scenario tbh. Usually offered 30%-50% of contract owed from what I've heard. Absolutely no use to the player training with the under 18s for the next 2 years. If he wants any kind of career, he must have realised it's time to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, mattman said: But but but Middlesbrough wanted him 🤷♂️🙈😂 Yeah, like we outbid Middlesbrough lol. I think Stubbs was cute at the fake news too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattman Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Lord Pityme said: Yeah, like we outbid Middlesbrough lol. I think Stubbs was cute at the fake news too! I know, was being sarcastic. Glad this sagas put to bed, and hopefully lessons learned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Just now, munoz said: Nah, cant see that scenario tbh. Usually offered 30%-50% of contract owed from what I've heard. Absolutely no use to the player training with the under 18s for the next 2 years. If he wants any kind of career, he must have realised it's time to move. I can tell you as someone who has negotiated and terminated thosands of contracts people (let alone professional footballers) do not walk for 30-50% of what they are entitled to. Unless they are going to something even better they do not want to miss out on. i would suggest this isnt Heaton's reality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linwood buddie Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Gardening leave means you are still an employee, on the payroll get your pension contributions and bonuses etc. He has agreed a deal based on the two remaining years of his contract. What would you go for in his shoes knowing its unlikely any club is bursting down the door to sign you? it will be over a year's wages, otherwise he would be better off just sitting tight! You said two years and then a percentage and then one year ,so my post on it is just as realistic as any of your ones ,is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said: Gardening leave means you are still an employee, on the payroll get your pension contributions and bonuses etc. He has agreed a deal based on the two remaining years of his contract. What would you go for in his shoes knowing its unlikely any club is bursting down the door to sign you? it will be over a year's wages, otherwise he would be better off just sitting tight! Can't rate himself very well then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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