Lord Pityme Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 1. Why do you propose to go back on the agreement with over 1200 smisa members and sell over a quarter of the club to an outside organisation? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Why did you spend several months working on this arrangement with Kibble without declaring it ( prior to even going ahead to get to this stage ? ) Our 3 votes are 100% NO this isn’t what we signed up for 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanleySaint Posted February 3, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 What are the specific benefits to Kibble that would require a 27% shareholding in SMFC? 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 What are the specific benefits to Kibble that would require a 27% shareholding in SMFC?And as a supplementary question...Would those same benefits be available under a "trading partnership" without a shareholding?If not, why? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Will the club require to abide by any rules or regulations once a charity / not for profit organisation has a 27% shareholding in the football club? Are Kibble permitted to make a profit on their investment if the club gets into Europe, or receives a large transfer fee for a player? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldo_j Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Can we use the £2 spend to buy LPM a notepad and pen to write questions down on? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Just now, aldo_j said: Can we use the £2 spend to buy LPM a notepad and pen to write questions down on? I might suggest more than £2 will be need for a massive notepad? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted February 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Can we use the £2 spend to buy LPM a notepad and pen to write questions down on?There'll need to be a vote 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 9 minutes ago, aldo_j said: Can we use the £2 spend to buy LPM a notepad and pen to write questions down on? Can we use it to buy him a snickers? Might save a lot of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Do kibble intend to match any SMISA investment(i.e quarterly spend) pro rata. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 May be better using the Q/A on the Smisa webpage, then report any they refuse to answer. Question I asked re vote method was answered quite promptly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yflab said: I’ve asked SMiSA the voting question re extraordinary proposal as I believe it must be included in the website Q&A. Well as I have stated previously, they intend using Very Connect with a simple majority yes/no winning from among those who bother to vote. They did say they are trying to get members to engage and use their vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yflab said: Well I believe that goes against the constitution if it does not pass with 75% majority of all members. Not me you need to convince 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Yflab said: This proposal cannot be deemed ordinary. Probably not but does the 75% thing not relate to changing Smisa constitution Smisa will no doubt rule it is just a standard vote as they told me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Yflab said: At present the Q&A states “If the plans fail to attract the support of the majority of members, we would continue with the status quo.” That is not the same answer you have been given. If the plans fail = a majority NO vote to my mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, alanb said: If the plans fail = a majority NO vote to my mind I would suggest this statement is very clear, if unintentional. If the plan fails to attract the majority of MEMBERS, is not the same as the majority who vote. This looks to be that it would need over 50% of the total membership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, stlucifer said: I would suggest this statement is very clear, if unintentional. If the plan fails to attract the majority of MEMBERS, is not the same as the majority who vote. This looks to be that it would need over 50% of the total membership. You missed out the word "Support" It looks like this will be measured by the intended vote one way or the other. No % of membership being considered to qualify vote validity, first past the post, yes or no wins the day. Given the importance of this I would like to think members will think it is worth a click to vote on That's my understanding of the reply I got FWIW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Question asked, I would like to ask how the vote will take place regarding the proposed change to the Fan Ownership deal involving SMISA, Kibble and SMFC. That is the method and rules to a achieve a result Straight forward majority via an electronic vote on Very Connect with no minimum percentage of membership participation or will it require say at least 50% or more of the membership to cast a vote. Answer given Thank for you for getting in touch. As per all previous SMISA votes, a simple majority of all of those members who choose to vote will be enough to carry it one way or the other. We agree with you that the more members that vote on this issue the better. To that end we have been reminding our members on a regular basis - both through email and on our social media pages - over the last few months of the need to sign up to Very Connect. I am pleased to report that we have had a large number of new sign-ups since the proposal was announced last week. We have also been busy chasing those who are yet to register, seeking out alternative contact details for them for those yet to respond and doing all we can to encourage them to register, attend the members meeting if they can, and then vote. We hope that all of our members will realise the significance of this proposal and make the effort to have their say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, alanb said: You missed out the word "Support" It looks like this will be measured by the intended vote one way or the other. No % of membership being considered to qualify vote validity, first past the post, yes or no wins the day. Given the importance of this I would like to think members will think it is worth a click to vote on That's my understanding of the reply I got FWIW I did, in error, but it doesn't change the statement in any way. It still quite clearly states that it the majority of members, not the majority of simply those who vote. I suspect there could be a reasonable case to challenge the result if SMISA were to try to push through a result without the 50% + of the Entire membership. ETA. As far as I read this, in essence, not voting must be taken as NO. Edited February 3, 2020 by stlucifer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanb Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 I did, in error, but it doesn't change the statement in any way. It still quite clearly states that it the majority of members, not the majority of simply those who vote. I suspect there could be a reasonable case to challenge the result if SMISA were to try to push through a result without the 50% + of the Entire membership.I have posted the Q/A I asked above 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Response from SMiSA: “ The only extraordinary resolutions defined in the Constitution relate to a) amending the constitution and winding up the Society. Neither of these apply on this occasion. “ HahahaDid anyone really expect anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Quibble with The Kibble! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kombibuddie Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 HahahaDid anyone really expect anything else.Oh dear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Bud the Baker said: Quibble with The Kibble! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Yflab said: Well I believe that goes against the constitution if it does not pass with 75% majority of all members. Where does the constitution say it would have to be 75% of ALL members for this kind of vote? I had a read and I can't see anything that would require 75% of all and the only 75% of voting members I seen was wind-up society, amendment to society rules? Granted I might have missed this. Edit: See this has been answered above already. Great, a question ticked off the list for Thursday. Edited February 4, 2020 by bazil85 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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