faraway saint Posted December 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Just now, oaksoft said: The chief medical officer has said that the second wave was caused by people going on holidays abroad. But apparently you know better. 🤣 Oh aye, that makes sense. You're the clown who thought the early predcition of 500,000 deaths in the UK was a possibilty. Even more recent, 100,000 by the end of the year. Come back when you find an ounce of common sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Still in the Season of Influenza are we ? Better stay in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cookie Monster Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 The chief medical officer has said that the second wave was caused by people going on holidays abroad. But apparently you know better. I don't remember reading or hearing him saying that. Can you show or provide a link to anything like you said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russian Saint Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 I don't remember reading or hearing him saying that. Can you show or provide a link to anything like you said. From The National newspaper.Giving more detail on the Sage report, Professor Jason Leitch, the national clinical director, said the first lockdown successfully eliminated around the majority of 300 strains of the virus. He said Covid-19 infections in the second wave were caused by new strains introduced to Scotland from other parts of the UK or abroad: “Once as a society we are allowed to travel again, we brought fresh new strains into Scotland, which started our second wave.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 Professor Jason Leitch, the national clinical director,He's not the Chief Medical Officer. The chief medical officer has said that the second wave was caused by people going on holidays abroad. But apparently you know better. So, would that make oaksoft wrong and someone knowing better? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 hours ago, shull said: Stupid even by your standards, Flu and Covid are completley different viruses. Also worth pointing out that if we had an influenza that killed around 0.5% of cases we'd be going into lockdown for that. What every you want to say about it 78,000 excess deaths is not something to be ignored 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 8 hours ago, faraway saint said: Oh aye, that makes sense. You're the clown who thought the early predcition of 500,000 deaths in the UK was a possibilty. Even more recent, 100,000 by the end of the year. Come back when you find an ounce of common sense. Well to be fair to Oaky (I don't know we should, but I will anyway) excess deaths are currently @78,000 and we still have a few weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, insaintee said: Well to be fair to Oaky (I don't know we should, but I will anyway) excess deaths are currently @78,000 and we still have a few weeks. I've constantly used Worldometer, just over 60,000. I'm not getting into another "these figures" versus "these figures" debate. PS Worldometer was good enough for Oaky for the majority of this mess, just saying. Edited December 12, 2020 by faraway saint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, faraway saint said: I've constantly used Worldometer, just over 60,000. I'm not getting into another "these figures" versus "these figures" debate. PS Worldometer was good enough for Oaky for the majority of this mess, just saying. You're quoting deaths with Covid on the certificate, I'm quoting excess deaths. That's fine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, faraway saint said: I've constantly used Worldometer, just over 60,000. I'm not getting into another "these figures" versus "these figures" debate. PS Worldometer was good enough for Oaky for the majority of this mess, just saying. That'll be the one where China have posted 2 Covid deaths since mid-April - reliable is not the word that springs to mind. Must be in double figures now but I'll ask again why would GPs & the ONS lie? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Cookie Monster said: He's not the Chief Medical Officer. So, would that make oaksoft wrong and someone knowing better? I hope you've been straight onto the aithorities to have me arrested for such a heinous crime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted December 12, 2020 Report Share Posted December 12, 2020 I hope you've been straight onto the aithorities to have me arrested for such a heinous crime.There is billions of nerves in a human body.I think I've hit most of them twice today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) See thats Germany back into national lockdown until the 10th January 😷😩☹️ Edited December 13, 2020 by ALBIONSAINT 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: See thats Germany back into national lockdown until the 10th January 😷😩☹️ I wonder when governments will realise this constant cycle of lockdown - release - repeat doesnt work? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 23 hours ago, shull said: Still in the Season of Influenza are we ? Better stay in. Let me just try and understand what you’re trying to say? You think that Covid is similar to the flu, so given that we don’t put restrictions in place every year for flu we should all be able to go outside and get on with our normal lives? unfortunately as was believed from the beginning of the crisis, this virus has different effects on different people. We now know that your Genes can determine whether you get very mild symptoms or very severe symptoms. Given we don’t yet know how to screen for the people who will have severe symptoms are you advocating that we all just look at it as a big health lottery and take a ticket? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hendo said: I wonder when governments will realise this constant cycle of lockdown - release - repeat doesnt work? Are you suggesting we should have stayed in full lockdown since March? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Treat it as a hoax and open the Country up now. Jail the Fascists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, shull said: Treat it as a hoax and open the Country up now. Jail the Fascists. So just let all those people who are susceptible because of their genetic makeup die? That sounds like a facist methodology to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: So just let all those people who are susceptible because of their genetic makeup die? That sounds like a facist methodology to me. Die of what ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALBIONSAINT Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, shull said: Die of what ? The effects of Covid, what else would I be talking about on a Covid thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 No Covid Change Thread Title to THE SEASON OF INFLUENZA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted December 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, ALBIONSAINT said: The effects of Covid, what else would I be talking about on a Covid thread? You should know better than trying to debate with a moron. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, faraway saint said: You should know better than trying to debate with a moron. Indeed ye idiot.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 UNICEF estimates that lockdowns will kill 1.2 million children of hunger Their death, the middle class left’s virtue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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