The capacity debacle

[Slarti]

Also dismissal is very different from redundancy.

In legal terns, dismissal covers redundancy too, ...

Which is pretty much what I said. [emoji38]
I'm out. 

Aye, so ye did. [emoji1787]

[stlucifer]

7 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said:

1 hour ago, stlucifer said:

IF Saint Mirren had managed to get more than the 1035 v PT at £12.00 a pop requiring more staff to police things then they would have had to have the same arrangements for a game where they would be getting nothing extra. And for further games until all restrictions are lifted. They have our cash. Turkey's don't vote for Christmas. I believe the reduced numbers suited the club in the longer term so they had no reason to question the decision.

If so, does that not smack of "screw the fans"?

That's precisely what I was getting at. It is pure conjecture but it does seem logical to me and, yes, it would be very cynical on the part of the club. As long as it's not proven and a backlash ensued it would save them a few bob. The longer the limitations go on the less they would want to increase the crowd levels.

[Slarti]

Danny Lennon... Right or wrong? Description of situation?

Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy.

In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else?

[FTOF]

21 minutes ago, HSS said:

M’Well giving Hibs 2000 tickets out of a capacity of 4500 Do Well only have 2500 fans?

Their chief executive stated they hope to have 6500 in an interview on SKY.

[stlucifer]

4 minutes ago, Slarti said:

Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy.

In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else?

Given what transpired and who the club chose to succeed him, it was definitely in the WRONG category to have not re-signed him from a purely football point of view..

[faraway saint]

FFS, this threads going well. 

[Scott-Leeds]

I thought initially it was about mental capacity [emoji3064]

[faraway saint]

1 minute ago, Scott-Leeds said:

I thought initially it was about mental capacity

That's pretty low going by the recent posts. 

[BuddieinEK]

Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy.

In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else?

Great answer.

Just hilighting that employers nowadays make decisions that suit them then dress them up to suit... and avoid countersuit! [emoji12]

[stlucifer]

7 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

FFS, this threads going well. 

 

4 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

That's pretty low going by the recent posts. 

Yep.

[faraway saint]

Just now, stlucifer said:

 

Yep.

^^^^^^ Dullard alert. 🤡

[Slarti]

I conceded the sacked term technically being legal. Sacked in the dictionary means being dismissed.
Citizen Advice “Being sacked from your job can come as a huge shock and it often feels unfair. The legal term for being sacked is ‘dismissal’
When you are made redundant you are dismissed from your employment.
I agree the term sacked and dismissed tends to be used for a misdemeanour. However the legal letters that i have seen advise of a redundancy meaning a dismissal.
ACAS state that a dismissal could be a redundancy 
I’m also out

As I've previously agreed, dismissed can cover many things. Legally sacked equals dismissed, redundancy equals dismissed, etc. However, dismissed does not necessarily equal sacked. It's like all pigeons are birds but not all birds are pigeons.

[Ronnie]

Their chief executive stated they hope to have 6500 in an interview on SKY.

I misread their website post which was shared on Facebook yesterday, 4500 home fans plus 2000 Away fans.

I initially thought it was 4500 in total.

[Slarti]

Given what transpired and who the club chose to succeed him, it was definitely in the WRONG category to have not re-signed him from a purely football point of view..

The replacement is a separate issue.

[HSS]

A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵‍

Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆

 

Edited July 27, 2021 by HSS

[faraway saint]

2 minutes ago, HSS said:

A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵‍

Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆

 

I can feel the rage from here. 

[TPAFKA Jersey 2]

1 hour ago, Ronnie said:

I misread their website post which was shared on Facebook yesterday, 4500 home fans plus 2000 Away fans.

I initially thought it was 4500 in total.

So that’s pretty much 50% of their capacity right?

[Ronnie]

So that’s pretty much 50% of their capacity right?

Yes. We are due a statement tomorrow regarding our capacity going forward and some more details on why the capacity on Sunday was 1039.

[shull]

 

[HSS]

[Brilliant Disguise]

16 hours ago, HSS said:

A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵‍

Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆

 

Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park

[faraway saint]

7 minutes ago, Brilliant Disguise said:

Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park

If this is for every home game I'm in. 👍

[beyond our ken]

Seems the fan-owned future has a chance of being better than the past performance 

providing SMISA can actually exert some control 

[HSS]

43 minutes ago, Brilliant Disguise said:

Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park

Don’t know where you heard that but it’s wrong…………it’s the Hokey Cokey that’s been planned

[faraway saint]

12 minutes ago, HSS said:

Don’t know where you heard that but it’s wrong…………it’s the Hokey Cokey that’s been planned

Feck that, I'm out.

Conga rules.