Slarti Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Also dismissal is very different from redundancy.In legal terns, dismissal covers redundancy too, ... Which is pretty much what I said. I'm out. Aye, so ye did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: 1 hour ago, stlucifer said: IF Saint Mirren had managed to get more than the 1035 v PT at £12.00 a pop requiring more staff to police things then they would have had to have the same arrangements for a game where they would be getting nothing extra. And for further games until all restrictions are lifted. They have our cash. Turkey's don't vote for Christmas. I believe the reduced numbers suited the club in the longer term so they had no reason to question the decision. If so, does that not smack of "screw the fans"? That's precisely what I was getting at. It is pure conjecture but it does seem logical to me and, yes, it would be very cynical on the part of the club. As long as it's not proven and a backlash ensued it would save them a few bob. The longer the limitations go on the less they would want to increase the crowd levels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Danny Lennon... Right or wrong? Description of situation?Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy.In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 21 minutes ago, HSS said: M’Well giving Hibs 2000 tickets out of a capacity of 4500 Do Well only have 2500 fans? Their chief executive stated they hope to have 6500 in an interview on SKY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 4 minutes ago, Slarti said: Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy. In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else? Given what transpired and who the club chose to succeed him, it was definitely in the WRONG category to have not re-signed him from a purely football point of view.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 FFS, this threads going well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 I thought initially it was about mental capacity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Scott-Leeds said: I thought initially it was about mental capacity That's pretty low going by the recent posts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Contract not renewed. Not a sacking, dismissal or redundancy.In my opinion he should have been offered another contract but it wasn't my decision. Depends what you mean by "right or wrong". In a football sense? In a "nice thing to do" sense? Something else?Great answer.Just hilighting that employers nowadays make decisions that suit them then dress them up to suit... and avoid countersuit! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, faraway saint said: FFS, this threads going well. 4 minutes ago, faraway saint said: That's pretty low going by the recent posts. Yep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Just now, stlucifer said: Yep. ^^^^^^ Dullard alert. 🤡 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 I conceded the sacked term technically being legal. Sacked in the dictionary means being dismissed. Citizen Advice “Being sacked from your job can come as a huge shock and it often feels unfair. The legal term for being sacked is ‘dismissal’ When you are made redundant you are dismissed from your employment. I agree the term sacked and dismissed tends to be used for a misdemeanour. However the legal letters that i have seen advise of a redundancy meaning a dismissal. ACAS state that a dismissal could be a redundancy I’m also outAs I've previously agreed, dismissed can cover many things. Legally sacked equals dismissed, redundancy equals dismissed, etc. However, dismissed does not necessarily equal sacked. It's like all pigeons are birds but not all birds are pigeons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Their chief executive stated they hope to have 6500 in an interview on SKY.I misread their website post which was shared on Facebook yesterday, 4500 home fans plus 2000 Away fans.I initially thought it was 4500 in total. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 Given what transpired and who the club chose to succeed him, it was definitely in the WRONG category to have not re-signed him from a purely football point of view..The replacement is a separate issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 (edited) A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵 Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆 Edited July 27 by HSS 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, HSS said: A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵 Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆 I can feel the rage from here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, Ronnie said: I misread their website post which was shared on Facebook yesterday, 4500 home fans plus 2000 Away fans. I initially thought it was 4500 in total. So that’s pretty much 50% of their capacity right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 So that’s pretty much 50% of their capacity right?Yes. We are due a statement tomorrow regarding our capacity going forward and some more details on why the capacity on Sunday was 1039. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brilliant Disguise Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 16 hours ago, HSS said: A little birdie told me today that if we are only allowed 1035 then the tickets will be offered to SMiSA members first as a celebration of todays takeover 😵 Touchpaper lit,now retreating a safe distance to watch the effects 🎇🎆 Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 7 minutes ago, Brilliant Disguise said: Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park If this is for every home game I'm in. 👍 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 Seems the fan-owned future has a chance of being better than the past performance providing SMISA can actually exert some control 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 43 minutes ago, Brilliant Disguise said: Also heard that as season tickets are not available you will get in with your SMISA membership card. A free drink also from the supporters bar. At final whistle they have organised a social distanced conga around the park Don’t know where you heard that but it’s wrong…………it’s the Hokey Cokey that’s been planned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 12 minutes ago, HSS said: Don’t know where you heard that but it’s wrong…………it’s the Hokey Cokey that’s been planned Feck that, I'm out. Conga rules. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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