paul torfason Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 get the ownership back of the pie shops etc,the prices they charge and wages they pay,it must be a very good profit,kick the carrs out or whoever it is,money to be made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northendsaint Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, paul torfason said: get the ownership back of the pie shops etc,the prices they charge and wages they pay,it must be a very good profit,kick the carrs out or whoever it is,money to be made The Carrs are a big Saints supporting family who put a lot back into the club.Maybe we should look at other streams of revenue we currently outsource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mc Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 hours ago, El Gingero said: There are 2 airlines in talks with the club at present. With our luck this season it's probably Aeroflot and the Luftwaffe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, David Mc said: With our luck this season it's probably Aeroflot and the Luftwaffe. Good to know. I have also asked a well placed friend to ask around at a well known airline. If only the people in charge used the combined "intelligence" and contacts of the fans!!!!! Edited November 28, 2016 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Good to know. I have also asked a well placed friend to ask around at a well known airline. If only the people in charge used the combined "intelligence" and contacts of the fans!!!!! Have the fans used their intelligence to contact those in charge at the club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted November 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, TsuMirren said: Have the fans used their intelligence to contact those in charge at the club? Speaking personally - yes. That was not my point however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Marvellous Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Easiest and most effective way to increase income is to improve performances on the park! Simples......or not so as the case seems to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mc Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 And unfortunately least predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 1 hour ago, TsuMirren said: Have the fans used their intelligence to contact those in charge at the club? Hmm, this is interesting. A candidate for members rep on the board who claims that customers who don't immediately contact the business board with suggestions lack intelligence. In most businesses the board of directors will actively seek out opinions and suggestions from their customers, often offering incentives for their opinions and advice. Indeed given a web forum where their customers will meet to discuss their experiences of their products and services in an open and honest manner usually business board members would be all over it using it as a valuable tool for business intel. Yet, it appears, at St Mirren FC - a club bottom of the Championship, struggling to do basic repairs on facilities and equipment where there should be no shortage of ideas on how to improve on the low quality product on offer - it appears that the Chairman and the Chief Executive Officer, along with SMiSA members representatives on the board should sit back and assume everything is fine unless a customer actually sends them a personal e-mail. I haven't contacted Gordon Scott or Tony Fitzpatrick, or David Nicol directly with my views and opinions. I also haven't contacted any other SPFL clubs with my views and opinions. I have however posted them on here, and e-mailed to offer assistance to SMiSA - where I was thanked and told to await a phone call - and to James Fowler, where my attempts to help him with his problem using the same "innovative tool" he used to try to locate players has been absolutely ignored. Indeed the complacent manner in which the club board, the CEO and indeed the supporters organisation have operated has been brought into sharp focus - for me anyway - by the fact that it was a board member from a different club who noticed my comments on this forum and who decided I had said something interesting enough to make an approach to meet me for a chat about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: Hmm, this is interesting. A candidate for members rep on the board who claims that customers who don't immediately contact the business board with suggestions lack intelligence. In most businesses the board of directors will actively seek out opinions and suggestions from their customers, often offering incentives for their opinions and advice. Indeed given a web forum where their customers will meet to discuss their experiences of their products and services in an open and honest manner usually business board members would be all over it using it as a valuable tool for business intel. Yet, it appears, at St Mirren FC - a club bottom of the Championship, struggling to do basic repairs on facilities and equipment where there should be no shortage of ideas on how to improve on the low quality product on offer - it appears that the Chairman and the Chief Executive Officer, along with SMiSA members representatives on the board should sit back and assume everything is fine unless a customer actually sends them a personal e-mail. I haven't contacted Gordon Scott or Tony Fitzpatrick, or David Nicol directly with my views and opinions. I also haven't contacted any other SPFL clubs with my views and opinions. I have however posted them on here, and e-mailed to offer assistance to SMiSA - where I was thanked and told to await a phone call - and to James Fowler, where my attempts to help him with his problem using the same "innovative tool" he used to try to locate players has been absolutely ignored. Indeed the complacent manner in which the club board, the CEO and indeed the supporters organisation have operated has been brought into sharp focus - for me anyway - by the fact that it was a board member from a different club who noticed my comments on this forum and who decided I had said something interesting enough to make an approach to meet me for a chat about it. Is 6 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: Hmm, this is interesting. A candidate for members rep on the board who claims that customers who don't immediately contact the business board with suggestions lack intelligence. In most businesses the board of directors will actively seek out opinions and suggestions from their customers, often offering incentives for their opinions and advice. Indeed given a web forum where their customers will meet to discuss their experiences of their products and services in an open and honest manner usually business board members would be all over it using it as a valuable tool for business intel. Yet, it appears, at St Mirren FC - a club bottom of the Championship, struggling to do basic repairs on facilities and equipment where there should be no shortage of ideas on how to improve on the low quality product on offer - it appears that the Chairman and the Chief Executive Officer, along with SMiSA members representatives on the board should sit back and assume everything is fine unless a customer actually sends them a personal e-mail. I haven't contacted Gordon Scott or Tony Fitzpatrick, or David Nicol directly with my views and opinions. I also haven't contacted any other SPFL clubs with my views and opinions. I have however posted them on here, and e-mailed to offer assistance to SMiSA - where I was thanked and told to await a phone call - and to James Fowler, where my attempts to help him with his problem using the same "innovative tool" he used to try to locate players has been absolutely ignored. Indeed the complacent manner in which the club board, the CEO and indeed the supporters organisation have operated has been brought into sharp focus - for me anyway - by the fact that it was a board member from a different club who noticed my comments on this forum and who decided I had said something interesting enough to make an approach to meet me for a chat about it. Is it true Mrs May has called you into Downing Street to use your ideas to bring down the debt. You read too many Disney and Harry Potter books Stuart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: Is Is it true Mrs May has called you into Downing Street to use your ideas to bring down the debt. You read too many Disney and Harry Potter books Stuart. I think Stu would do a better job than clueless Mrs May. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Hmm, this is interesting. A candidate for members rep on the board who claims that customers who don't immediately contact the business board with suggestions lack intelligence. In most businesses the board of directors will actively seek out opinions and suggestions from their customers, often offering incentives for their opinions and advice. Indeed given a web forum where their customers will meet to discuss their experiences of their products and services in an open and honest manner usually business board members would be all over it using it as a valuable tool for business intel. Yet, it appears, at St Mirren FC - a club bottom of the Championship, struggling to do basic repairs on facilities and equipment where there should be no shortage of ideas on how to improve on the low quality product on offer - it appears that the Chairman and the Chief Executive Officer, along with SMiSA members representatives on the board should sit back and assume everything is fine unless a customer actually sends them a personal e-mail. I haven't contacted Gordon Scott or Tony Fitzpatrick, or David Nicol directly with my views and opinions. I also haven't contacted any other SPFL clubs with my views and opinions. I have however posted them on here, and e-mailed to offer assistance to SMiSA - where I was thanked and told to await a phone call - and to James Fowler, where my attempts to help him with his problem using the same "innovative tool" he used to try to locate players has been absolutely ignored. Indeed the complacent manner in which the club board, the CEO and indeed the supporters organisation have operated has been brought into sharp focus - for me anyway - by the fact that it was a board member from a different club who noticed my comments on this forum and who decided I had said something interesting enough to make an approach to meet me for a chat about it. Me, me, my, me, my, I, my, me, I...At no point have I stated that customers lack intelligence. I asked if they'd used the intelligence they do have to make contact in the most effective and efficient way. You've had a random pick up, which is great for you and maybe others have or will have the same. The forum does get read and items from here get addressed, but it's never going to be a catch all. The easiest way to contact is direct, be that to Gordon, the club board, to David Nicol or to SMISA as a whole. I don't think anyone is being complacent, there's just a hell of a lot going on. Its like the age old Swan analogy, which I'll not bore anyone with on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: Hmm, this is interesting. NO, IT'S REALLY NOT INTERESTING. I haven't contacted Gordon Scott or Tony Fitzpatrick, or David Nicol directly with my views and opinions. I also haven't contacted any other SPFL clubs with my views and opinions. I have however posted them on here, and e-mailed to offer assistance to SMiSA - where I was thanked and told to await a phone call - and to James Fowler, where my attempts to help him with his problem using the same "innovative tool" he used to try to locate players has been absolutely ignored. SOMEONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WOULD PICK UP ON THE GENTLE HINTS. Indeed the complacent manner in which the club board, the CEO and indeed the supporters organisation have operated has been brought into sharp focus - for me anyway - by the fact that it was a board member from a different club who noticed my comments on this forum and who decided I had said something interesting enough to make an approach to meet me for a chat about it. I BET THAT S/HE RUES THE DAY... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 2 hours ago, TsuMirren said: Me, me, my, me, my, I, my, me, I... At no point have I stated that customers lack intelligence. I asked if they'd used the intelligence they do have to make contact in the most effective and efficient way. You've had a random pick up, which is great for you and maybe others have or will have the same. The forum does get read and items from here get addressed, but it's never going to be a catch all. The easiest way to contact is direct, be that to Gordon, the club board, to David Nicol or to SMISA as a whole. I don't think anyone is being complacent, there's just a hell of a lot going on. Its like the age old Swan analogy, which I'll not bore anyone with on here. Kenny, Kenny, Kenny... you were patient with his wanky pish when you put yourself in the firing line. i respect that. but you are no longer in that exposed position. There is little logic, truth or consistency in his posts. Ignore the wanky pish, for your own sake. And ours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Is it true Mrs May has called you into Downing Street to use your ideas to bring down the debt. You read too many Disney and Harry Potter books Stuart. The last book I read was the SNP White Paper. It was a tough read, riddled with errors but as a work of fiction it would be hard to beat. Let's face it not even the Genie from Aladin could have given the SNP the kind of tax returns they dreamt up. Anyway to answer your question no its not true. I would call the government complacent in not reading my posts on this forum but if you can't get a SMiSA rep on the board to read it, it's a bit unfair to bash the Tories for not reading it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Me, me, my, me, my, I, my, me, I...At no point have I stated that customers lack intelligence. I asked if they'd used the intelligence they do have to make contact in the most effective and efficient way. You've had a random pick up, which is great for you and maybe others have or will have the same. The forum does get read and items from here get addressed, but it's never going to be a catch all. The easiest way to contact is direct, be that to Gordon, the club board, to David Nicol or to SMISA as a whole. I don't think anyone is being complacent, there's just a hell of a lot going on. Its like the age old Swan analogy, which I'll not bore anyone with on here. Yeah the Swan analogy works I guess. Except this Swan continues to sink whilst under the surface the Swan continues to kick away at the silt that has been supporting it. Tony Fitzpatrick also said loads of great things were happening behind the scenes at the club. I'm not one to doubt a living legend but that was over a month ago now. Since then the SMiSA membership delivered a disabled platform that the current chairman forgot to incorporate in his stadium design and some SMiSA volunteers power washed a load of seats that hadn't been properly cleaned by the club in years. Are Tony and Gordon actually going to deliver anything tangible at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 15 minutes ago, Stuart Dickson said: Yeah the Swan analogy works I guess. Except this Swan continues to sink whilst under the surface the Swan continues to kick away at the silt that has been supporting it. Tony Fitzpatrick also said loads of great things were happening behind the scenes at the club. I'm not one to doubt a living legend but that was over a month ago now. Since then the SMiSA membership delivered a disabled platform that the current chairman forgot to incorporate in his stadium design and some SMiSA volunteers power washed a load of seats that hadn't been properly cleaned by the club in years. Are Tony and Gordon actually going to deliver anything tangible at all? The seats were publicly declared fecking bogging a few years ago. The old Board done nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 20 hours ago, Stuart Dickson said: An official from AN Other club contacted me just yesterday to see if I'd be willing to come in for a wee chat after seeing one of my posts on here. Perhaps they're short of the back end of a donkey for the club's Christmas panto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 21 hours ago, munoz said: Done my bit for the week - can't make the game tomorrow night , but rather than ask for refund , I've gave my ticket to a work colleague. That's cruelty shame on you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 Unfortunately I can still see some of the fat fantasist's posts through his being quoted by others. Encouraging to see he's still talking entirely through his hoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, elvis said: That's cruelty shame on you . It's ok , he's a season ticket holder like myself . There won't be any major shock to his system . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendo Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, elvis said: That's cruelty shame on you . Shouldn't you say, "Don't be cruel." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, Soctty said: Unfortunately I can still see some of the fat fantasist's posts through his being quoted by others. Encouraging to see he's still talking entirely through his hoop. But you love St Mirren better than anybody. What a hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torfason Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 On 28 November 2016 at 9:05 PM, northendsaint said: The Carrs are a big Saints supporting family who put a lot back into the club.Maybe we should look at other streams of revenue we currently outsource. if the clubs on its arse then surely we have to re take all our parts of business that can make money,no point someone else making profit when club needs it,unless the carr's are a major cash investor to our club ,which obviously you think they are,maybe you no better than me,,it was just a idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted November 29, 2016 Report Share Posted November 29, 2016 if the clubs on its arse then surely we have to re take all our parts of business that can make money,no point someone else making profit when club needs it,unless the carr's are a major cash investor to our club ,which obviously you think they are,maybe you no better than me,,it was just a idea Paul, while I agree in principle the catering outlets can be quite a big undertaking. First you need to make sure you meet all the hygiene and food safety standards and then you've got to be on top of best before dates, wastage etc. I'd imagine whoever runs the outlets — I thought it was RKC rather than the Carrs - would have lost a fair bit of cash with the postponement on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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