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Interesting  discussion .many seem to accept Jack Ross comes before  1877 St Mirren football club. Sorry I don't Jack is a great manager St Mirren is surely above  all else. Jack will be gone St Mirren will survive no matter the league with managers  coming  and  going. Commit or go Jack we need to move forward as St Mirren not Jack Ross. 

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57 minutes ago, Ethan said:

No one is bigger than the club. Deadlines need to be put down. Our coming season is very important and we cant be hostage to waiting on other clubs taking Ross away. We need to start recruitment of players. 

Recruitment is already under way. Do you think Jack has just been sitting by the phone over the last two weeks waiting for IT to call and ignoring his work at SMFC? The season isn't even finished yet and players are still under contract until the end of the month. Plenty of time to get a squad together.

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13 minutes ago, Sonny said:

Recruitment is already under way. Do you think Jack has just been sitting by the phone over the last two weeks waiting for IT to call and ignoring his work at SMFC? The season isn't even finished yet and players are still under contract until the end of the month. Plenty of time to get a squad together.

I don't doubt Jack's professionalism. 

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Jack will have his targets and we will be talking to players of that there is no doubt. However if he is going then the players identified may not suit a new manager or the way he wants to play. This is why its crucial to have this sorted now not weeks down the line.

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12 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Psychometric test :lol:

Well it almost wouldn't surprise me if football clubs decided to replicate the utter stupidity of the modern day large company by introducing these.

It's the second interview which has led me to my viewpoint. I agree with you on that score. A second interview and he STILL has not been offered the job? He simply cannot be first choice unless, as I said earlier, they have been sorting out personal terms. Why would it take more than a few hours to sort those out though?

Nah, Jack is staying unless Ipswich don't get their main target(s).

You might be right about him needing to either go to a Shrewsbury first or taking Saints to 3rd place next season.

As good as Jack is, I just don't see a good enough track record yet to justify any of this attention he is getting. It's just way too soon.

Do you know this for sure ?

Isn't it possible that JR hasn't accepted it yet until all details are agreed ?

Just asking.

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Recruitment is already under way. Do you think Jack has just been sitting by the phone over the last two weeks waiting for IT to call and ignoring his work at SMFC? The season isn't even finished yet and players are still under contract until the end of the month. Plenty of time to get a squad together.
I don't doubt Jack's professionalism. 
It's not about Jack's professionalism it's about players knowing if they are signing up to be managed by Jack Ross or is there a chance they could end up working for a dinosaur like Yogi Hughes or the likes.

I've a hunch the reason Gavin Reilly hasn't made a decision is because he doesn't know if he'll be working with his pal James Fowler or is he maybe going to be managed by the guy that was in charge during his unhappy spell at Hearts. Whether Jack is still trying to sign players doesn't matter a jot if the players don't know who is going to be in charge.

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27 minutes ago, davidg said:

My friend from Ipswich reckons JR has definitely not been offered the job. He reckons the Chairman is after Lampard or Sherwood. If they turn it down then JR and the Shrewsbury manager will be given more consideration. 

Certainly a higher profile but football is littered with good ex players who haven't managed to reproduce their success as a manager.

I think for everyone's sake, especially St Mirren, this is cleared up by tomorrow. 

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I don't think Jack Ross is going to be offered the Ipswich job.  If he was their number one target then they would have appointed him by now.  

We know Jack Ross has a very good chance of becoming a top manager in Britain but I am not convinced winning the Scottish Championship and manager of the year in Scotland cuts a whole load of mustered in England.

I think Ipswich are a good sized club with plenty of potential and will be looking for a bigger name than Jack Ross.

hopefully Jack isn't offered the job and St Mirren offer Jack an improved contract making him our highest paid manager and ask him to commit his future to St Mirren FC for the next two seasons.

In Jack We Trust!

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Just now, EssexTractor said:

I am genuinely disappointed that this hasn’t been wrapped up already, either way. 

Very true.  I would imagine it will be,  one way or another,  before our season tickets go on sale on 22 May. 

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25 minutes ago, Mr Zo said:

 

hopefully Jack isn't offered the job and St Mirren offer Jack an improved contract making him our highest paid manager and ask him to commit his future to St Mirren FC for the next two seasons.

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Have we not already done that?  After the Dundee Chairman's Spanish adventure.

I have to say, putting a manager on a contract seems pretty pointless.  Jack Ross, for example, seems willing to talk to any and every chairman with a job available and if a manager wants to go, he goes.  As compared to a player, the amount of compensation you receive as absolutely insignificant.

On the other hand, if you give them a big contract and they fail to deliver success you need to pay up the contract in full at huge expense to the club.  Alan Pardrew has made more for this particular trick over the past couple of seasons than St Mirren's turnover for an entire decade!

 

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And here's Dundee's version of the story
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dundee-chief-john-nelms-denies-10550573
Fact was that Neil McCann was their first choice but McCann ruled himself out of the job. Ross was second choice. They approached Ross and Ross was keen, then McCann changed his mind and Nelms returned home and made McCann his manager. The job was never offered to Ross - nor was the Barnsley job, nor the MK Dons job. If he had been offered any of those jobs he would have been off like a bullet. 
Jack Ross did the same badge kissing stuff after it became clear he wasn't getting the Barnsley job too, and I fully expect the same rubbish when it becomes clear Ipswich aren't offering him the job either. 


& Guess which version I believe ? So the Dundee guy jumps on a plane , interrupts Jacks holiday “just to find out what his position was ? Aye, that’ll be the right version of events . As for his Neil McCann was the only person offered the job .? What did you expect him to say ?? “We brought Neil in coz Jack Ross knocked us back !?!? “ You’re really not very bright are you you ?

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1 minute ago, MenstrieSaint said:

Alloa fan I know was chatting to Jim Goodwin  about JR , and Goodie suggested that Jack was a serious candidate for the Sunderland job.

I’ve heard  a similar story, but he would be a very brave man to take on the Sunderland job. That club is a total shambles from top to bottom and it will take years to sort out that mess. I imagine anyone taking that job will get 6 months at having them challenging at the top of league one. Anything less will result in the sack.

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The problem we have with the delay is that it is effecting our preparation of building our squad for next season. No players are going to commit to joining us with the managers future in limbo. Probably the same with Reilly.

The uncertainty is not a good thing but I think Jack has earned the right for the club to be patient.

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Hi all, another tractor boy here. Have been lurking since this thread was posted up on our forum but now feel I can shed some light on the current recruitment process at ITFC given that everything seems to have gone quiet on the JR situation.

First off, I'm not convinced that we're interviewing candidates twice. My pet theory is that the "first interview" was probably just a sounding out/interest check.

Credible speculation is that we've formally interviewed Mark Warburton, possibly Steven Gerrard before he went to Rangers, Tim Sherwood, Scott Parker, Frank Lampard and of course JR.

We do seem to be holding on in order to interview Paul Hurst. However, I don't necessarily feel that this means he is our first choice and we wouldn't end up appointing one of the above even after interviewing him. But he could be.

There is much concern amongst our fans that waiting to interview Hurst could see us miss out on JR, who is very much the fans preferred choice at this stage. Your meteoric rise playing good attacking passing football has us all making comparisons with our hugely successful period under George Burley. The way we've been bored to tears by Mick McBoring's safety first football for the past five years means we'd love a manager who is prepared to have a right go.

Anyway, maybe we'll have a press conference tomorrow and unveil JR. Here's hoping, but I fear this'll drag on for another week or two yet.

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2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Do you know this for sure ?

Isn't it possible that JR hasn't accepted it yet until all details are agreed ?

Just asking.

Of course not. There osn't a single person on this forum who knows anything for sure.

If you re-read my post you will see I made it clear that the only other explanation for the delay would be terms being agreed although I doubted whether that would have taken a week.

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47 minutes ago, Mr Zo said:

I don't think Jack Ross is going to be offered the Ipswich job.  If he was their number one target then they would have appointed him by now.  

We know Jack Ross has a very good chance of becoming a top manager in Britain but I am not convinced winning the Scottish Championship and manager of the year in Scotland cuts a whole load of mustered in England.

I think Ipswich are a good sized club with plenty of potential and will be looking for a bigger name than Jack Ross.

hopefully Jack isn't offered the job and St Mirren offer Jack an improved contract making him our highest paid manager and ask him to commit his future to St Mirren FC for the next two seasons.

In Jack We Trust!

That would be a dream come true and dreams can happen.  

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2 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Of course not. There osn't a single person on this forum who knows anything for sure.

If you re-read my post you will see I made it clear that the only other explanation for the delay would be terms being agreed although I doubted whether that would have taken a week.

There are other potential factors.  Terms are one,  I agree,  but his choice of ssistant might be another and complicating factor. 

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8 minutes ago, St.Ricky said:

There are other potential factors.  Terms are one,  I agree,  but his choice of ssistant might be another and complicating factor. 

I think it is highly unlikely that this would be the issue but we'll find out soon enough.

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Just now, oaksoft said:

I think it is highly unlikely that this would be the issue but we'll find out soon enough.

Might is the word I used. 

A separate thread has been discussing this "possibility " and potential choices and impact. 

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