Sue Denim Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Millionaire champagne socialists say that Covid is the gift that keeps on giving https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9232085/Covid-gift-keeps-giving-says-ally-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html Eating the poor @Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 The Guardian back in Feb last year telling us that lockdowns violate human rights https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/02/chinas-reaction-to-the-coronavirus-outbreak-violates-human-rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Annual deaths 1938 to 2020 from the Office of National Statistics https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12735annualdeathsandmortalityrates1938to2020provisional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Denim Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 In 1918 life expectancy was 56 and the average age at death of Spanish flu was 28 In 2020 life expectancy is 80 and the average age at death of Covid is 81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Thank the LORD, you are here to tell us all what to think. A weight off, if you will. A weight off, if you won't. Either way, honestly it's a relief. Did you read the article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, salmonbuddie said: 3 hours ago, oaksoft said: Thank the LORD, you are here to tell us all what to think. A weight off, if you will. A weight off, if you won't. Either way, honestly it's a relief. Did you read the article? As much of it as I could stomach. It's all too full of over-emotional novellistic fluff for my liking and it didn't surprise me that it's taken from her newly published book. I'm not disputing that quite a number of hospitals are over-run and in total chaos but this is not true across the country. I am wary of taking one viewpoint and extrapolating that across the entire UK. I am also very wary of people fluffing their pillows over their involvement. If that article hadn't been written in such unnecessary, flowery "novellistic" language and had stuck to the facts it would have been easier to read. BUT as I said, you've already decreed that no comment is needed by anyone else so I'm confused about why you would make that declaration and then come back and ask for my comments. Edited February 8, 2021 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) Nice to see @Sue Denim scraping the barrel for utter nonsense today. Not even trying to hide your outright lies and distortions Sue. Good luck with the fishing trip. 🤣 Edited February 8, 2021 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 As much of it as I could stomach. It's all too full of over-emotional novellistic fluff for my liking and it didn't surprise me that it's taken from her newly published book. I'm not disputing that quite a number of hospitals are over-run and in total chaos but this is not true across the country. I am wary of taking one viewpoint and extrapolating that across the entire UK. I am also very wary of people fluffing their pillows over their involvement. If that article hadn't been written in such unnecessary, flowery "novellistic" language and had stuck to the facts it would have been easier to read. BUT as I said, you've already decreed that no comment is needed by anyone else so I'm confused about why you would make that declaration and then come back and ask for my comments.Are you the reincarnation of a WW1 General? It would explain a lot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Sue Denim said: Annual deaths 1938 to 2020 from the Office of National Statistics https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12735annualdeathsandmortalityrates1938to2020provisional Another graph that clearly shows your view on the pandemic being ‘over’ is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, salmonbuddie said: 53 minutes ago, oaksoft said: As much of it as I could stomach. It's all too full of over-emotional novellistic fluff for my liking and it didn't surprise me that it's taken from her newly published book. I'm not disputing that quite a number of hospitals are over-run and in total chaos but this is not true across the country. I am wary of taking one viewpoint and extrapolating that across the entire UK. I am also very wary of people fluffing their pillows over their involvement. If that article hadn't been written in such unnecessary, flowery "novellistic" language and had stuck to the facts it would have been easier to read. BUT as I said, you've already decreed that no comment is needed by anyone else so I'm confused about why you would make that declaration and then come back and ask for my comments. Are you the reincarnation of a WW1 General? It would explain a lot... I do enjoy our conversations but if you can step back from judging others morals right now can I ask you a question? This person is talking about being run into the ground with exhaustion and being mentally and physically at breaking point. Did it occur to you to question where she found the time and energy to both use twitter and write an entire book in the teeth of a pandemic if things were really that bad for her? I'm not making any judgment on her at all. Simply asking the obvious question. It's raised a flag for me. Did it raise one for you or are you so caught up in the emotion of it that you can't bring yourself to doubt any of it? Edited February 8, 2021 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 I do enjoy our conversations but if you can step back from judging others morals right now can I ask you a question? This person is talking about being run into the ground with exhaustion and being mentally and physically at breaking point. Did it occur to you to question where she found the time and energy to both use twitter and write an entire book in the teeth of a pandemic if things were really that bad for her? I'm not making any judgment on her at all. Simply asking the obvious question. It's raised a flag for me. Did it raise one for you or are you so caught up in the emotion of it that you can't bring yourself to doubt any of it?Maintaining the WW1 analogy, I imagined she did it in the same way as all those poets - Owen, Sassoon, Brooke, Graves et al - managed to write about the horrors they experienced while they were experiencing them.Are you questioning them, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf34 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 My wife and I got the Pfizer jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough. And we have to through this maybe twice more! And it might not work. Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing ! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, salmonbuddie said: Maintaining the WW1 analogy, I imagined she did it in the same way as all those poets - Owen, Sassoon, Brooke, Graves et al - managed to write about the horrors they experienced while they were experiencing them. Are you questioning them, too? Don't start using strawman arguments with me young man. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Millionaire champagne socialists say that Covid is the gift that keeps on giving https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9232085/Covid-gift-keeps-giving-says-ally-Sir-Keir-Starmer.html Eating the poor @Bud the Baker You're right about there being financial losers and winners from the pandemic Cap'n, 10 months late, but right enough. The really sad thing from Labour's POV is that the pandemic is clearly not giving them anywhere near enough and that despite courting the xenophobic voters in the "red wall" seats Labour are still behind the Tories down south. ************************ I'm currently listening to Them Belly Full by Bob Marley, sadly the lyrics are still relevant today - I've known all about there being two worlds for 40odd years. Quote Them belly full but we hungry A hungry mob is a angry mob A rain a-fall but the dirt it tough A pot a-cook but the food no 'nough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, waldorf34 said: My wife and I got the Pfizer jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough. And we have to through this maybe twice more! And it might not work. Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing ! . It could be that your strong reaction to the jabs simply underlines how potentially at risk you would have been if you had been really infected by/exposed to the actual virus. I hope you've mentioned this to your doctor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Don't start using strawman arguments with me young man. [emoji1]It's not a strawman argument, I answered your question and gave you the analogy I used. I genuinely thought it must be similar (psychologically) to being in the trenches when I was reading it hence the analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted February 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, waldorf34 said: My wife and I got the Pfizer jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough. And we have to through this maybe twice more! And it might not work. Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing ! . Christ, you've been whining for weeks about groups of people who, in your view, hadn't had the vaccine and now you've got it you're questioning the worth? You use "maybe" and "might not work" in your dreary post, that sums up your attitude to this. Aye, just keep yourself locked up, that's a much better option, that a short spell of discomfort. Entirely your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Tommy said: 1 min on the phone and appointment change to the Lagoon. Brother in law also change no problem so if there room at the Lagoon, why not send me there in the 1st place Who did you phone Tommy? A friend of mine has been given an appointment for LJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 The local sports centre re-opened today as a Vaccination Centre - 50 yards! Spoiler Just under a quarter of a furlong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, waldorf34 said: My wife and I got the Pfizer jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough. And we have to through this maybe twice more! And it might not work. Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing ! . It's affecting me too I am already sick of your whingeing. Go speak to a doctor-he or she will definitely care more than i do And it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 12:00 AM, ALBIONSAINT said: So this what it’s came to, what a great example to demonstrate to the kids. I,m alright Jack pull the ladder up. Bullshit report they wont get into those sessions without a NHS photo-id and their names wont be on the system for that venue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, stlucifer said: Who did you phone Tommy? A friend of mine has been given an appointment for LJ. The phone number is on the appointment sheet. 0800 030 8013 or it can be done online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Tommy said: The phone number is on the appointment sheet. 0800 030 8013 or it can be done online. 👍 Thanks Tommy. I'll let them know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Sue Denim said: Annual deaths 1938 to 2020 from the Office of National Statistics https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/12735annualdeathsandmortalityrates1938to2020provisional Interesting. The histogram appears to show that 2020 death rate is the highest since the 2008-9 swine flu pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, waldorf34 said: My wife and I got the Pfizer jab a week ago ,never been so I in our lives since ,can t sleep,cant eat ,terrible aches and pains a high temperature and cough. And we have to through this maybe twice more! And it might not work. Better off just locking ourselves up as were doing ! . I suggest that you might actually have developed Covid and should phone for advice. Edited February 8, 2021 by smcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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