stlucifer Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Fair enough. I thought you were more of a man than that but if your spine is made of jelly, so be it. Oh and "Ah've paid so ah can say whit a want" just reeks of entitlement. An intelligent man knows the difference between the criticism and the critic. I'm sure you feel the same when you pay for something only to find out it's faulty. No one suggests someone can "say whit they want". There are limits but they are allowed to criticise a player's ability or endeavour at any given time. That doesn't "reek of entitlement". It is all part and parcel of a PROFESSIONAL footballers on the field life. The vindication knows no bounds. Edited February 7, 2021 by stlucifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 4 hours ago, Swiss_Saint said: Thankfully you don't make decisions at the club U sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 9 hours ago, God of war said: U sure? Totally based on your opinions of our players, some would never get a game and do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 6:47 PM, norrie82 said: Great turnaround in our season by the lads now let’s deal these lads in and make sure they aren’t picked off for a nominal fee from Hibs and the like. Let’s hope the board are already well down the line with the lads out of contract this year. Obika, Durmus, Connolly and for me if it takes three players wages get Jake Doyle Hayes signed up if we can. When he’s on it we’re on it. Lads different class. I personally think the club may wait till we get to a certain number of points on the table, that are based on previous seasons as safe enough to finish above bottom two. I don't think we are too far away from that and could possibly had said amount of points by end of Feb if we take advantage of the amount of home fixtures we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Glad to hear player contract chat last night. I think more and more, players are getting better advice on their careers, still not a majority but it's going in the right direction. Yes football is a short career but it doesn't mean jumping at the first sniff of more money is the right move and there is merit to build your game at teams like St Mirren. How many times do we see players jump from us to a Scunthorpe United or Grimsby town only to near fully fall off the map? I know not all of their contracts are up but Doyle-Hayes, Connolly, Durmus, McGrath, McCarthy etc have had a really good season so far here and no doubt other teams will be circling, I think they could make a lot poorer decisions than another couple years development at St Mirren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 On 2/7/2021 at 2:27 PM, oaksoft said: And Obika. And McAllister. And Erhahon. In fact, it would be faster to name players who DIDN'T attract criticism from numpties. 😀 And Flynn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, bazil85 said: Glad to hear player contract chat last night. I think more and more, players are getting better advice on their careers, still not a majority but it's going in the right direction. Yes football is a short career but it doesn't mean jumping at the first sniff of more money is the right move and there is merit to build your game at teams like St Mirren. How many times do we see players jump from us to a Scunthorpe United or Grimsby town only to near fully fall off the map? I know not all of their contracts are up but Doyle-Hayes, Connolly, Durmus, McGrath, McCarthy etc have had a really good season so far here and no doubt other teams will be circling, I think they could make a lot poorer decisions than another couple years development at St Mirren. Unfortunately its agents that dictate, do they really act in the best interests of players on their books. Do they really care if somebody like JDH is out of the game by they are say 25 erm naw because there will be others that will pay them say 5% of wage for their sevices😡 Some players might get better advice but many wont Edited February 16, 2021 by Cumbriansaint72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: Unfortunately its agents that dictate, do they really act in the best interests of players on their books. Do they really care if somebody like JDH is out of the game by they are say 25 erm naw because there will be others that will pay them say 5% of wage for their sevices😡 Some players might get better advice but many wont Yeah absolutely, I think it's going in the right direction but there is certainly an education piece that these agents aren't necessarily giving the best long term advice on contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 McAllister is one i would let go, wasted wage imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Cumbriansaint72 said: Unfortunately its agents that dictate, do they really act in the best interests of players on their books. Do they really care if somebody like JDH is out of the game by they are say 25 erm naw because there will be others that will pay them say 5% of wage for their sevices😡 Some players might get better advice but many wont Hmmm. Only if the agent was a very poor businessman. Anyone who knew what they were doing (and obviously believed in their client) would be very stupid to take that view. Future potential income is every bit as important as current income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, God of war said: McAllister is one i would let go, wasted wage imo. Have you watched him in recent games? One of the most improved players this season I would say. Changed a couple matches off the bench and signs he could add goals to his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldy_87 Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 3 hours ago, God of war said: McAllister is one i would let go, wasted wage imo. Under Contract until the Summer of 2022. Won’t be leaving unless somebody else wants him or there is a deal between him and the Club to be released a year early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 Why would we want to let McAllister go????? started off poorly but he has had injury and fitness problems, last couple of games he played thought he played very well and his vision and delivery are very good. He is one of the players not afraid to run at players and has got 5 assists and a goal this season so decent return for someone who is only now coming into his best for us. In fact I think he has more assists than anyone else in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, God of war said: McAllister is one i would let go, wasted wage imo. He is under contract till 2022 but I would not be fussed if he went. I just dont see him reaching his potential. He is a decent player at SPL level but we need better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 16, 2021 Report Share Posted February 16, 2021 So hes a decent player at SPL level which happens to be our level but you are not bothered if he left but you like Obika (so do I by the way) who is a decent squad player and yet Mcal's potential is greater than Obikas. I guess its all about opinions but for me he is a good player to have in the squad and well worth keeping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 Has had one decent game in 2 years starting and looked ok as sub other day....as gutless a player as I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 As I've said before thankfully neither your opinion nor mine have any weight at the club. I leave that to the experts there., the fact that Jim continues to play him informs me more of his ability than your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 If JG loses confidence in McAllister and can’t seal a deal with JDH, I may have discovered a potential replacement. a big-boned lad, strong, could be knocked into shape quite quickly... M’bappe... https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fc-barcelona-vs-psg-live-stream-latest-score-champions-league-2021-result-watch-tv-lineups-b920027.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 53 minutes ago, antrin said: If JG loses confidence in McAllister and can’t seal a deal with JDH, I may have discovered a potential replacement. a big-boned lad, strong, could be knocked into shape quite quickly... M’bappe... https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/fc-barcelona-vs-psg-live-stream-latest-score-champions-league-2021-result-watch-tv-lineups-b920027.html 🤣 in your dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Ethan said: He is under contract till 2022 but I would not be fussed if he went. I just dont see him reaching his potential. He is a decent player at SPL level but we need better. Certainly is a big 12 months for him coming up , if he continues to blow hot and cold I can see him being let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, pod said: 🤣 in your dreams. It HAS been very wet down here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, antrin said: It HAS been very wet down here... Cut down on the drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 hours ago, Swiss_Saint said: So hes a decent player at SPL level which happens to be our level but you are not bothered if he left but you like Obika (so do I by the way) who is a decent squad player and yet Mcal's potential is greater than Obikas. I guess its all about opinions but for me he is a good player to have in the squad and well worth keeping There is a very decent player in there. We have seen it before his move to Derby and in his season on loan. If he can re-find that form, we have a very good asset on our hands. Form is temporary, talent is permanent as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Swiss_Saint said: As I've said before thankfully neither your opinion nor mine have any weight at the club. I leave that to the experts there., the fact that Jim continues to play him informs me more of his ability than your opinion Was Morias that Jim kept playing a good player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Saint Posted February 17, 2021 Report Share Posted February 17, 2021 he was performing a role and doesn't any longer and has been moved on so whats your point? Junior had bags of energy but very poor decision making. You seem to think you know abut footballers so who will replace 5 assists and 2 goals in the current team, better than any other especially from someone who had a slow start to the season and seems to be coming good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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