jaybee Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Political correctness IMO could be viewed in much the same manner as religion and in that; I do not wish to disparage those who are of a religious disposition but simply mean to say that I view religion as a crutch to help you when required, a good thing IMO even though I am not a believer. And so I tend to view political correctness in a similar vein; in as much as religion can be a conversation stopper, you either believe or you don't, very little to debate, ergo those who mandate Political correctness and truly believe in it not accepting any alternate view IMO are the same as those who support religion wholeheartedly. However; given that Political correctness is generally about one persons interpretation of another persons language and language as we are all aware is so much very dependent on Place, Context, Audience, inflection and a multitude of other factors that we could and do choose to interpret some words in a manner not intended by the speaker. So my point would be ...... does Political correctness really help to (as you seem to think DJ) 'bring forward awareness ' or as others suggest (and I do not necessarily include myself here) That Political correctness is simply a form of censorship and a curtailment of an individuals freedom of speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, jaybee said: Political correctness IMO could be viewed in much the same manner as religion and in that; I do not wish to disparage those who are of a religious disposition but simply mean to say that I view religion as a crutch to help you when required, a good thing IMO even though I am not a believer. And so I tend to view political correctness in a similar vein; in as much as religion can be a conversation stopper, you either believe or you don't, very little to debate, ergo those who mandate Political correctness and truly believe in it not accepting any alternate view IMO are the same as those who support religion wholeheartedly. However; given that Political correctness is generally about one persons interpretation of another persons language and language as we are all aware is so much very dependent on Place, Context, Audience, inflection and a multitude of other factors that we could and do choose to interpret some words in a manner not intended by the speaker. So my point would be ...... does Political correctness really help to (as you seem to think DJ) 'bring forward awareness ' or as others suggest (and I do not necessarily include myself here) That Political correctness is simply a form of censorship and a curtailment of an individuals freedom of speech. PC is knowing what to say and when to say it, Religion is making sure you say what someone else said or you will burn in eternal flames .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2nd bid from Celtic rejected. Reported to be around £2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Did sky sports have any comment on John Mcginn's views on political correctness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, TPAFKATS said: 38 minutes ago, HSS said: Did sky sports have any comment on John Mcginn's views on political correctness? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, helpmaboab said: Keep going Oaky, you are making perfect sense. What is wrong wi all these other folk getting their knickers in a twist about nothing. remember when PC stood for police constable, and being gay meant you were feeling happy....... heres a wee PC song..... Stirrer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 57 minutes ago, jaybee said: Political correctness IMO could be viewed in much the same manner as religion and in that; I do not wish to disparage those who are of a religious disposition but simply mean to say that I view religion as a crutch to help you when required, a good thing IMO even though I am not a believer. And so I tend to view political correctness in a similar vein; in as much as religion can be a conversation stopper, you either believe or you don't, very little to debate, ergo those who mandate Political correctness and truly believe in it not accepting any alternate view IMO are the same as those who support religion wholeheartedly. However; given that Political correctness is generally about one persons interpretation of another persons language and language as we are all aware is so much very dependent on Place, Context, Audience, inflection and a multitude of other factors that we could and do choose to interpret some words in a manner not intended by the speaker. So my point would be ...... does Political correctness really help to (as you seem to think DJ) 'bring forward awareness ' or as others suggest (and I do not necessarily include myself here) That Political correctness is simply a form of censorship and a curtailment of an individuals freedom of speech. Why not start a philosophical discussion thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Hibs reject Celtics second bid.....http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/11/do-report-celtic-have-second-john-mcginn-bid-rejected-by-hiberni/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original 59er Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 The background approach to any political correctness changes with the climate. You can no longer refer to a certain person by the colour of their skin, their gender leaning tendencies nor can you call someone 'disabled', yet in the not too distant past it was the norm. Pick your subject and I bet today's acceptable terminology will be tomorrow's bete noir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Buddie Marvelous said: Hibs reject Celtics second bid.....http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/11/do-report-celtic-have-second-john-mcginn-bid-rejected-by-hiberni/ I do hope Hibs stupid valuation does not get in the way of this. Celtic can just wait till next year- no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 I do hope Hibs stupid valuation does not get in the way of this. Celtic can just wait till next year- no problemSo could the English clubs. Surely you don't think Hibs value of him is fair ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 59 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Why not start a philosophical discussion thread? I rather think a filasofical debate on here could be a prelude to a riot; which is why I choose my words carefully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, St.Ricky said: Why not start a philosophical discussion thread? I post therefore I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, renfrew said: 16 minutes ago, DougJamie said: I do hope Hibs stupid valuation does not get in the way of this. Celtic can just wait till next year- no problem So could the English clubs. Surely you don't think Hibs value of him is fair ? In the land of Neil Lennon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, The Original 59er said: The background approach to any political correctness changes with the climate. You can no longer refer to a certain person by the colour of their skin, their gender leaning tendencies nor can you call someone 'disabled', yet in the not too distant past it was the norm. Pick your subject and I bet today's acceptable terminology will be tomorrow's bete noir. Today’s subject then is Bobby Moore. If he were playing today, would it be acceptable to say he walks like a wummin’ and he wears a bra? Showing my age now. Shit... forgot... John McGinn.... McGinn, McGinn, poor wee John McGinn, Hibs want more cash, Will Celtic dash, Into their biscuit tin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 In the land of Neil LennonAnd he is right. If celtic can value and get 7 millions for Armstrong, then surely McGinn is worth at least 4 millions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, renfrew said: 21 minutes ago, DougJamie said: In the land of Neil Lennon And he is right. If celtic can value and get 7 millions for Armstrong, then surely McGinn is worth at least 4 millions. Agree, but the team bidding is not in the EPL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 24 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Today’s subject then is Bobby Moore. If he were playing today, would it be acceptable to say he walks like a wummin’ and he wears a bra? Showing my age now. Shit... forgot... John McGinn.... McGinn, McGinn, poor wee John McGinn, Hibs want more cash, Will Celtic dash, Into their biscuit tin. Think that's a Biscuit Vault now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, DougJamie said: Think that's a Biscuit Vault now You wouldn’t know it, given the level of their opening bid, the tightarse barstewards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, pozbaird said: You wouldn’t know it, given the level of their opening bid, the tightarse barstewards. Secret of being rich mate Giveaway feck all....... Unless your Man Utd of Course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 33 minutes ago, renfrew said: 37 minutes ago, DougJamie said: In the land of Neil Lennon And he is right. If celtic can value and get 7 millions for Armstrong, then surely McGinn is worth at least 4 millions. Armstrong is playing Champions League, and buying a Celtic player is slightly different than another Scottish club PS How much do u think Lewis Morgan is now worth , ? 350k or £1m ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Saintss Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 I can't quite understand why people think C*ltic are being tight. They've made the highest bid for McGinn so far! The likes of Rang*rs, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham, Burnley, Derby, etc, etc, etc, etc have all bid £0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 What I can't understand is why English teams a quite happy to pay Celtic over the odds for a player , but won't compete with Celtic to sign a player for a fraction of the price . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Slartibartfast said: £17m Yes and due to the fantastic sell on clause we get .............................................................................................................................................................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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