insaintee Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Tyrone Tim will be joining the Forum shortly. That's just one of Mason O'Kendo's aliases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't see how Charles Green can basically tell Dundee United to fcuk off for being 'an enemy' of The Rangers, then look for The Rangers share of a gate made up of non- The Rangers fans. Made up of non- The Rangers fans entirely because of his toys out of the pram actions. In fact, Green's statement was strongly anti-Dundee United, so surely he wants no part of their tainted takings from this match anyway. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Tannadice if Green subsequently phones them looking for his share of the gate. If Green sticks to his guns on this, surely the only course of action the SFA can take is to tell him 'fine, if that's how you feel, then by all means refuse your allocation of tickets, we can't force you - but you will also give up your right to a share of the gate.' This is so simple surely even Scottish football administrators can't fcuk this decision up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I don't see how Charles Green can basically tell Dundee United to fcuk off for being 'an enemy' of The Rangers, then look for The Rangers share of a gate made up of non- The Rangers fans. Made up of non- The Rangers fans entirely because of his toys out of the pram actions. In fact, Green's statement was strongly anti-Dundee United, so surely he wants no part of their tainted takings from this match anyway. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at Tannadice if Green subsequently phones them looking for his share of the gate. If Green sticks to his guns on this, surely the only course of action the SFA can take is to tell him 'fine, if that's how you feel, then by all means refuse your allocation of tickets, we can't force you - but you will also give up your right to a share of the gate.' This is so simple surely even Scottish football administrators can't fcuk this decision up. I think that there is almost an incitement to violence in Greens actions. In view of that and the poor sportsmanship and unfounded accusations he's made against Dundee United, I think it possible that the rangers could be expelled from the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 You are of course welcome to think what you like but IMO believing this is preventing you see the bigger picture whatever that may be. As for Green? It's all very simple. The man is an investor. He will do and say anything to build the NewCo brand before selling up for a massive profit. I think it's realistic he might sell for around £30 million in a couple of years when they've reached the SPL again and the Champions League. That would be a nice retirement package. In order to do that he must keep the hordes onside. So he'll do and say whatever is necessary to ensure that. If you think along these lines nothing Green does is a surprise. Everything he does is for the long term. You are, I think, mistakenly looking for reasons in the short term. That's why it's not making sense. The bit you highlighted is not only my view. Many have suggested it. But you are clearly saying BDO will do nothing? Do you accept that it is possible? I didn't make that up. It has been in the public domain for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I think that there is almost an incitement to violence in Greens actions. In view of that and the poor sportsmanship and unfounded accusations he's made against Dundee United, I think it possible that the rangers could be expelled from the competition. I tend to agree with you. In the old days a club could have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute. But of course we all know Rangers have never,ever done anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmurray24 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 I thought this was against Rangers, now that The Rangers are not in fact Rangers why are The Rangers fighting a case of the old Rangers or are they really only kidding on that they are The Rangers when actually they are Rangers at hearts or is that a different club. The Rangers are "The Rangers" when is comes to their football history The Rangers are not "Rangers" when its comes to £££££ The Rangers are The Rangers/Rangers when they can have a good moan. Come on Mr Green what side of the fence do you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sevco want to be hated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2becks Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sevco want to be hated. Happy to help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 This is so simple surely even Scottish football administrators can't fcuk this decision up. Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 (edited) I would normally suggest that a person who acts in this way is either dighted or Machiavellian. In Green's case, however, I actually believe he is both. He is dighted inasmuch as he can readily relate to the lowest common denominator of the sevco legions. Let's face it, you'd have to be operating at a pretty base level to achieve this. On the flip side, he seems able to employ a few effective strategies with a view to capitalising on this shared and impaired cognitive functioning. Quite impressive when you think about it. Edited December 5, 2012 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Sevco want to be hated. I hear they're celebrating their 140 day history this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Surely Dundee United will get the 100% of the gate if Green has actually came out and supported the boycott. If so, then lets hope Dundee United fill the stadium, roar their team to victory and keep all the profits. Oh you showed them Rangers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorizaar Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 Cup rules state the visiting team has the right to claim up to 20% of stadium tickets. Presumably this means they can claim 0% so on the face of it, it doesn't look like there's much can be done about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapsalmon Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 if greens 11 are entiteled to a share of the profits then id love to see united price the fixture in such a way that it only covered its costs and there is no prpfit to split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmurray24 Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i think its a 60% - 40% split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 i think its a 60% - 40% split Are we still talking about gate receipts, or St Mirren's latest favoured SPL re-organisation idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperately Seeking Susans Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 DU fans could boycott the game then post in a donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperately Seeking Susans Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 DU fans could boycott the game then post in a donation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTheBoss Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 If there's no clause which says a team refusing to take any tickets waives their share of the gate money, the price is fixed by both clubs but if they can't agree it reverts to the host's "normal" price for a league game. Not sure what's defined as "normal" price though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPAFKATS Posted December 5, 2012 Report Share Posted December 5, 2012 United should man up and stop whinging. The orcs are happy to hear other teams moan about being hit financially - it makes them believe that they are needed by the rest of us. Remember that this is an extra game that United wont have budgeted for. It's also on tv so there's another extra wedge that they werent expecting. They could have drawn berwick rangers in a cup tie - they should treat this as such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossTheBoss Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 United should man up and stop whinging. The orcs are happy to hear other teams moan about being hit financially - it makes them believe that they are needed by the rest of us. Remember that this is an extra game that United wont have budgeted for. It's also on tv so there's another extra wedge that they werent expecting. They could have drawn berwick rangers in a cup tie - they should treat this as such But there's a real possibility that Utd will be handing over 50% of their profits to rangers. Can't imagine that would go down well with our fans if we were in that position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 laugh my socks off if the newly valued £50million The Rangers can't afford to switch on the undersoil heating and get postponed on saturday! Still it's always hard for diddy clubs in the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 But there's a real possibility that Utd will be handing over 50% of their profits to rangers. Can't imagine that would go down well with our fans if we were in that position That's because most football fans are unable to get their brains around the bigger picture of almost any issue except what happened in the summer. This is football doh! They should get on with it and stop worrying about their opponents fans which they can't control anyway. There will be HUGE interest in this to see how many of the away fans turn up. I think more will be there than you think. If Saints called for a boycott of another team would you refuse to attend that game? If I wanted to go I'd go. Period. Rangers fans are no different. You'll see at least a couple of thousand up there I'm sure of it. The idea of them not turning up to support mainly young kids trying to win against a big bad SPL team away from home is unthinkable heresy for many of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted December 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 That's because most football fans are unable to get their brains around the bigger picture of almost any issue except what happened in the summer. This is football doh! They should get on with it and stop worrying about their opponents fans which they can't control anyway. There will be HUGE interest in this to see how many of the away fans turn up. I think more will be there than you think. If Saints called for a boycott of another team would you refuse to attend that game? If I wanted to go I'd go. Period. Rangers fans are no different. You'll see at least a couple of thousand up there I'm sure of it. The idea of them not turning up to support mainly young kids trying to win against a big bad SPL team away from home is unthinkable heresy for many of them. Especially for those thousands of local Huns, for whom it's a home game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest somner9 Posted December 6, 2012 Report Share Posted December 6, 2012 Must be a great day being a scumco fan, boycotting a game you get half the gate from, finding out the worldwide collection of shysters who OWN you, and being so right about the demise of scottish football now you aren't in the spl, and how it will never get anywhere in europe, and how being without scumco has hit every team in the pocket. Aye wha's like'em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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