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My posts have been recent, and infrequent, however.....

Just back from the 200 mile trip, collectively me and those who travelled have spent over a grand watching some of the poorest footballing exploits I have ever seen!

In optimism and pure blind faith, I expected some sort of desire and fight from our team tonight.

What I witnessed was, men against boys, organisation v's disorganisation, and a team who wanted to win, v's a who hoped to win!!

We are relegated, and it happens to our team, we will get promoted again, however....

How can the BOD seriously think fans won't get turned off? Without regurgitating everything that's been said on this forum.... Danny Lennon, TC, GT, selling KM, new signings not been played... Really what the fcuk is the deal with sanoupe??? Listening to the shite from cheesy about staying up this morning, only to get absolutely turned over by utter pish tonight!!??

I don't personally think GT is to blame, he should have served an apprenticeship before taking the reigns.

This summer has to be our genesis, new owners, new manager, clear out of the team, start a fcuking again, and get us something to be excited about.

There is absolutely no reason why Inverness, RC, Hamilton, St Johnstone, killie, dundee, etc should be so far ahead of us.

Our club is in the state its in because of shite management from top to bottom, and unless we want to go the way of airdrie, Dunfermline, raith, then the BOD NEED TO GO BIG OR GO HOME!!! We are a shambles, youth is not producing, 1st team are not producing, BOD are not producing! Yes they may have invested in the past, but they aren't now, and while they are cutting back on output, we're still expected to financially input, it's not on, start again, and we can all get excited about SMFC's future!!

The one's that bother to turn up and when they also decide not too. sad.png We are part of St.Mirren's future.

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The worry has to be that this is the beginning of a downward spiral and not the end of it as some may hope.

Mr Gilmour has previous when it comes to throwing the baby out with the bath water. Fail to win the first half dozen or so games in the Championship and we'll see a repeat of 2001's firesale mentality when he announced that the full first team squad was up for sale....we then slide down the table.

In truth, the writing hss been on the wall for a good number of seasons.

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Let's not forget they pleaded for us all to go and support the team last night.....only for Gilmour to turn round on the radio and try to pin the blame on a 'minority of fans turning on the players' for the current shit storm we find ourselves in. You couldn't make it up.

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Let's not forget they pleaded for us all to go and support the team last night.....only for Gilmour to turn round on the radio and try to pin the blame on a 'minority of fans turning on the players' for the current shit storm we find ourselves in. You couldn't make it up.

I never heard Gilmours interview, but I can't believe he had slated the support, who pay good money to watch the shite we've been watching because of HIS decisions, and to do it on national radio is very, very poor indeed.

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Let's not forget they pleaded for us all to go and support the team last night.....only for Gilmour to turn round on the radio and try to pin the blame on a 'minority of fans turning on the players' for the current shit storm we find ourselves in. You couldn't make it up.

Disgrace, no, more like an inevitable certainly.

One thing that was undeniable as that last night was in many ways , overdue.

The culmination of a club having no heart, no plan, no ambition, hell no expectation. This inevitably about fail is absorbed by players and like a virus it spreads throughout the place. There is a negativity that surroundss the club now, add to that , hell we have too many plodding journeymen who just dont care. I'd clear the lot out and have motivated youngsters play for us.

Then there are alleged comments about BoD or people on it slating fans.Disappointing about SG comments if true, to say the least, never heard it on the media

Well , my instincts are not always correct , but frankly this whole shit fest has been on the cards a while now and for me I feel I've lost a connection with the club, I feel completely irrelevant and disaffected to them as a fan now. However despite this , and with best intentions i have ensured my lad is already a Saints fan. Blind faith , all the rest, he already wants to go to the County game ffs. The exuberance and innocence of youth.

For me the rot set in when as a club , an entity , a team ( oops ) we relocated to the Greenhell road place.

But that's just me..................sleep.png

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Gilmour was asked about the reaction of the supporters to our current position prior to kick-off. Chick Young had framed it, in true arse-sooking style, by saying that he couldn't believe people were targeting the BoD after everything they've done for the club, blah etc.

Gilmour then deflected the question and suggested that some supporters (a 'minority') had turned on the players.

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I think the Consortium are finally in the red now as far as I am concerned.

Going by their decision to chase the peso last December I also think any claims to be vetting incomers has to be seen as a thing of the past.

These guys are wealthy rather than rich and I understand their desire to recoup the money they've put in but let's be realistic it ain't gonna happen now. It's time for them to cut their losses and leave......................

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Gilmour was asked about the reaction of the supporters to our current position prior to kick-off. Chick Young had framed it, in true arse-sooking style, by saying that he couldn't believe people were targeting the BoD after everything they've done for the club, blah etc.

Gilmour then deflected the question and suggested that some supporters (a 'minority') had turned on the players.

Young is remarkable in his ability to sink to new depths in his capacity as pundit / journalist / reporter or whatever label he wishes to attach to himself. A stuttering ineffectual buffoon who is so hobbled by the need to cosy up to his 'pals' that he is little more than a space waster. Radio Scotland's clown prince extraordinaire.

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Young is remarkable in his ability to sink to new depths in his capacity as pundit / journalist / reporter or whatever label he wishes to attach to himself. A stuttering ineffectual buffoon who is so hobbled by the need to cosy up to his 'pals' that he is little more than a space waster. Radio Scotland's clown prince extraordinaire.

Aye but everyone is guilty of that one. An awful lot of St Mirren supporters showed a great deal of loyalty to Stewart Gilmour in particular just because he would occasionally feed them the crumbs off the table. As a result Gilmour was teflon coated when he forced Tom Hendrie to loan out Ludo Roy to St Johnstone leaving a club struggling at the bottom end of Division One without a full time goalkeeper to train with. He was teflon coated when he appointed John Coughlin as Hendries replacement despite the fact that Coughlin was an utter car crash as a boss leaving St Mirren teetering close to relegation to Division Two. He even remained Teflon coated whilst he told St Mirren fans that he was going to vote to keep Rangers in the SPL - and somehow even managed to get groups of St Mirren fans to back him.

Chick Youngs questioning may well be all about putting his own interests before the club that he professes to love, but there's plenty of others around St Mirren FC just as guilty.

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2 years ago I was told by someone who needed to see the board regularly as part of his job that Gilmour came in maybe once a month, McAusland once a week (probably to pick the defence) and the rest of the board not at all.

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This nepotistic assertion , do you think it really holds water

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Young is remarkable in his ability to sink to new depths in his capacity as pundit / journalist / reporter or whatever label he wishes to attach to himself. A stuttering ineffectual buffoon who is so hobbled by the need to cosy up to his 'pals' that he is little more than a space waster. Radio Scotland's clown prince extraordinaire.

oh I dunno there's a fair few wallopers , tempting as it is , but lets not go there.

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Honestly the Easdales have more integrity than this BOD, at least they did not hide what they were. Silence, lack of direction, lack of support, stupid decisions. They sack DL and after that woooooooosh.

Gilmour ur a total fraud . You need petrol to drive a car

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Gilmour was asked about the reaction of the supporters to our current position prior to kick-off. Chick Young had framed it, in true arse-sooking style, by saying that he couldn't believe people were targeting the BoD after everything they've done for the club, blah etc.

Gilmour then deflected the question and suggested that some supporters (a 'minority') had turned on the players.

I'd love to know who has turned on the players. There was no evidence of that on Friday night. Until last night they were last in line for criticism from me as I felt it wasn't their fault they weren't good enough. My stance on that changed when they left their professional pride, heart and spines on the team bus last night. Maybe I haven't heard these fans because they are such a small minority - the same way Craig claimed it was a small minority who were against him three days before he was booted.

The folk who deserve the majority of the criticism is the board. The flack they got in the papers last week was long overdue but, predictably, wee Chick splutters indignantly any time anyone dares criticise them. He did it on Saturday, he did it last night and he did it in his PDE column today.

What the board did made them Teflon coated for a while - and any weird decisions they made back in the early 200s perhaps look sensible in the fullness of time - but what goodwill they had with the support has been wiped out by this season.

And I'll yet again repeat my conspiracy theory - does it suit the board to be in a position where we want to chase them out of town so they can sell up to anyone then say "Well, the fans wanted us out" when it goes wrong in a few months?

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Aye but everyone is guilty of that one. An awful lot of St Mirren supporters showed a great deal of loyalty to Stewart Gilmour in particular just because he would occasionally feed them the crumbs off the table. As a result Gilmour was teflon coated when he forced Tom Hendrie to loan out Ludo Roy to St Johnstone leaving a club struggling at the bottom end of Division One without a full time goalkeeper to train with. He was teflon coated when he appointed John Coughlin as Hendries replacement despite the fact that Coughlin was an utter car crash as a boss leaving St Mirren teetering close to relegation to Division Two. He even remained Teflon coated whilst he told St Mirren fans that he was going to vote to keep Rangers in the SPL - and somehow even managed to get groups of St Mirren fans to back him.

Chick Youngs questioning may well be all about putting his own interests before the club that he professes to love, but there's plenty of others around St Mirren FC just as guilty.

how do you always manage to find a negative out of a negative. Stop pointing your finger, looking at some of your previous posts I feel you just like stirring. Do u actually support St Mirren?? I feel the saints fans are a pretty decent bunch personally

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I'd love to know who has turned on the players. There was no evidence of that on Friday night. Until last night they were last in line for criticism from me as I felt it wasn't their fault they weren't good enough. My stance on that changed when they left their professional pride, heart and spines on the team bus last night. Maybe I haven't heard these fans because they are such a small minority - the same way Craig claimed it was a small minority who were against him three days before he was booted.

The folk who deserve the majority of the criticism is the board. The flack they got in the papers last week was long overdue but, predictably, wee Chick splutters indignantly any time anyone dares criticise them. He did it on Saturday, he did it last night and he did it in his PDE column today.

What the board did made them Teflon coated for a while - and any weird decisions they made back in the early 200s perhaps look sensible in the fullness of time - but what goodwill they had with the support has been wiped out by this season.

And I'll yet again repeat my conspiracy theory - does it suit the board to be in a position where we want to chase them out of town so they can sell up to anyone then say "Well, the fans wanted us out" when it goes wrong in a few months?

Let me just add that the parachute payment is probably worth more than prize money

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Gilmour was asked about the reaction of the supporters to our current position prior to kick-off. Chick Young had framed it, in true arse-sooking style, by saying that he couldn't believe people were targeting the BoD after everything they've done for the club, blah etc.

Gilmour then deflected the question and suggested that some supporters (a 'minority') had turned on the players.

If you were at the cinema and they only showed 5 minutes of a 90 minutes movie every damned week you'd turn on the cinema, the staff and even the actors, director and distributors. You certainly wouldn't create a wall of appluase, buy all the merchandise you could and look for the sequel. Once in the car, you'd also be looking for other entertainment avenues for future days. You most certainly, which SG and others really need to remember, would not pass it down through generations, go even though you know you're almost certain of disappointment or look to buy the cinema and run it.

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SG and the board began to lose my support the day of that infamous meeting on the main stand where he recommended sucking Sevco boaby. then when anyone had the audacity to claim otherwise, we're shot disparaging looks by the lot of them.

Even getting around 50% of the fans onside. I walked out the ground that night a much more cynical fan. Couldn't quote believe what I'd heard and what others had accepted from them.

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