Edinbuddie Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Robert Grieve @robert_grieve 12m12 minutes ago Changes afoot with #StMirren management team. Ian Murray set to axe No2 Mark Spalding and appoint more experienced assistant. @scotsunsport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 This was the obvious outcome from our current mess. The Board done this successfully with Danny Lennon so hopefully will be the right option again. Jack Ross? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 This should have been the route taken from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Jack Ross in for Spalding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Is Jack Ross the answer? 3 years assistant to Murray at Dumbarton and 1 year as a coach with Hearts. Any other contenders? Not saying no to Ross but can he make a significant difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints 12 Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Gullame Beuzelin will be Murrays obvious choice. id prefer Alex Miller or Alec Smith in as No.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't like to see anyone lose their job, but, along with others, I called for this weeks ago, and it was probably inevitable. Big call as to who is brought in, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Whoever it is , they will be better than Spalding . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Ross has previous with the current BoD. An older head is more likely, but Ross might not be a bad option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 In the name of God!! It isn't the fault of an assistant manager if the team, tactics, selections etc are pure rank rotten. First and foremost its the bloody manager. Seems Spalding is a bit of a scapegoat here. Oh well. Here's to yet another shitty appointment whoever it may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I would bring in Alex Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 A few folk mentioning Ross but if he can make a significant difference then the obvious weak link is Murray. We'd be better appointing Ross as the Manager. I'd prefer to get someone with real experience in as an assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Is this not a case of Ian Murray looking after number 1. It appears to me that the rumours at NSP that Murray is a very arrogant man are true, he must have known he was due to dismissed and is looking after himself. When a new man is appointed he(Murray) must take a back seat and let the new man have control, that way he (Murray) will get the praise for the turn around in St.Mirrens fortunes, or if it does not work out he can lay the blame at the new assistants door. Whatever way you look at it, its a win win situation for Murray. Its Murray along with Spalding that should go. Edited November 2, 2015 by stripey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 In the name of God!! It isn't the fault of an assistant manager if the team, tactics, selections etc are pure rank rotten. First and foremost its the bloody manager. Seems Spalding is a bit of a scapegoat here. Oh well. Here's to yet another shitty appointment whoever it may be. Yup. The amount of criticism Spalding is getting is incredible. Not saying he's blameless but he's not the one picking the team etc. Also not convinced binning an assistant the manager has chosen and replacing him with someone he doesn't necessarily want is the best way forward - unless we're hoping he'll resign like Jimmy Bone did when Kenny McDowall was booted 20 years ago. This was the obvious outcome from our current mess. The Board done this successfully with Danny Lennon so hopefully will be the right option again. Jack Ross? How much of the improvement was down to Craig and how much of it was down to having far better players at our disposal from the summer of 2011 - Thompson, Teale, Tesselaar etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam M Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 What an absolute joke. Murray is in charge and makes the decisions. Simply just trying to pass the blame and buy himself some more time. I was in favour of Murray but I've clearly got it absolutely wrong. If Spalding gets punted because of Murray's shortcomings it's an absolute disgrace. He'll be away by the end of the year anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 For whatever reason, Murray and Spalding hasn't worked. We will probably never know why, but it has been blatantly obvious that something has to change. The guy who will cost less to pay off was always going to be the first out the door. I doubt that we will witness a turnaround as soon as a new man comes in (assuming this story is accurate), but something has to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edinbuddie Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I would think that someone (on the BoD?) has advised Murray that it may be an idea to get an experienced man in. It's very reminiscent of Iain Jenkins leaving after Danny's first season, with TC coming in. It may be termed in the media as 'Murray set to axe No.2 Spalding', but I'd be surprised if it was Murray's idea. It may be harsh on Spalding, but football is a hard game, and I wonder how much respect there can be in the dressing room for a guy that's never played the game professionally? Whatever is happening, something had to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 What an absolute joke. Murray is in charge and makes the decisions. Simply just trying to pass the blame and buy himself some more time. I was in favour of Murray but I've clearly got it absolutely wrong. If Spalding gets punted because of Murray's shortcomings it's an absolute disgrace. He'll be away by the end of the year anyway. Why is it a joke? He was part of a team that wasn't working out. One option is to bag the entire team at significant cost, while the other is to try a different fit in the hope that something will click. I'm not suggesting changing the number two will be a panacea. Indeed, I very much have my doubts, but this is one option to consider, and better that than inaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I've consistently said I would not want Thommo as gaffer right now and also that I don't think he should be in the starting XI most weeks. Thommo at this stage as the assistant to Murray? That's something I wouldn't mind seeing. Not a player assistant, hang up the boots and focus purely on this. I'd be all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I said he needed an experienced assistant before he appointed Spalding. It seemed pretty obvious to everyone, apart from Murray. Hope this is true as we need something to change. Going to be done at the clubs expense though, which isn't ideal. It's the cheaper option to sacking them both. The obvious candidate is Ross who is unemployed. However his history with the club and bonus gate might be a stumbling block, although I'd hope not. Beuzellin is at Hamilton, I can't imagine us forking out compo for an assistant and I can't imagine him wanting to make a step down. Jimmy Nicol would be another decent shout in my opinion. Edited November 2, 2015 by TopCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) I've consistently said I would not want Thommo as gaffer right now and also that I don't think he should be in the starting XI most weeks. Thommo at this stage as the assistant to Murray? That's something I wouldn't mind seeing. Not a player assistant, hang up the boots and focus purely on this. I'd be all for it. But for Thompson's inexperience, I could agree with that. We need a bit of passion, and someone to provide a spark. Thompson could be the man, but would what he lacks in experience be countered by his enthusiasm?ETA - I'd also agree that he would ideally hang up his boots. I'm still not convinced that he could take a step back from being one of the lads in the squad, though. Nah, on balance, keep him as a playing super-sub and bring in an older head who has been about for a while in a coaching context. Edited November 2, 2015 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Let's get an assistant who has experience . What's Tommy Craig up to these days ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Jimmy Nicol would be another decent shout in my opinion.I'd suggested Nicol a few weeks back but was met with a degree of derision. I still maintain that he would be a decent shout. Edited November 2, 2015 by Drew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 How about Hitler? Another thread suggests he's still alive. Mature/auld heid, been around Europe and - apparently - acquainted with South America so maybe could use his contacts, there too? Strong inter-personal skills (perhaps too strong?), more attack-minded than defence I guess... my main concern is that moustache like Tony Fitzpatrick's... and we all know his managerial limitations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Whoever it is , they will be better than Spalding . The majority thought that Murray was the answer as manager(myself included), and that he was better than Teale. So far that's not been the case. NB In no way am I advocating the return of Teale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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