Isle Of Bute Saint Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Dan Is The Man said: Happy to see Harry come back. Assuming he stays injury free, he'll be a good signing. Problem we still have is nothing to do with our centre halves and everything to do with our brand of attacking football, It leaves us open when we commit so many bodies forward. We don't play a defensive midfielder, we play two playmakers. That's the issue. Maybe a shift to 4-3-3 rather than 4-2-3-1 might tighten us up in midfield a bit. What was it Tom Hendry used to say create 30 chances you will score as long as you score more than the opposition this from a maths teacher I'm all for attacking formation it's just so much more enjoyable to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 We need an experienced forward who knows how to effectively link up with the midfield. This is what Loy brought after he gained full match fitness. Our forward line lacked coherence on Tuesday. While that might develop in time, I don't think we can afford to gamble on it happening with the players we have currently. Ideally, we can bring in someone who already has this attribute in his game. Big ask, perhaps, but an absolute priority I would argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beyond our ken Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 hours ago, Soctty said: He may have, but would be down to the finance director to set the financial details. Probably more input from the club doctor on the injury ramification and effect on a deal. I'm sure the doctor would have been involved in the discussions yesterday with Harry, Jack and the chairman... The manager MAYhave an input into the signing of a player? The player won't be getting signed if the manager doesn't think he is worth the money involved. Seems more like he has the casting vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think if Harry Davis comes in you might see Jack Baird go out on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: The manager MAYhave an input into the signing of a player? The player won't be getting signed if the manager doesn't think he is worth the money involved. Seems more like he has the casting vote I think you might have lost the thread of the conversation. To sum up, I don't think Jack draws up the contract, or decides how much the club can pay the player, or dictates which clauses are in the contract - these happen by negotiation between the two parties, are ratified by the finance director (and the board) and are drawn up by the lawyer. Like this Edited July 20, 2017 by Soctty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, santaponsasaint said: I think if Harry Davis comes in you might see Jack Baird go out on loan. You think? He's only got a year's contract, so that would seem a bit rash and wouldn't make sense to me personally, especially given Harry's current injury, Gary Mack's injuries last season, and with Buchanan not looking too solid so far. Might just be me, but I'd rather see Jack in the team right now, until Harry is fit and signed, and unti Buchanan settles into the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddie Marvelous Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 33 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said: I think if Harry Davis comes in you might see Jack Baird go out on loan. Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 51 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said: I think if Harry Davis comes in you might see Jack Baird go out on loan. Can't see it. We certainly need 4 centre halves to go with this season. Perhaps Whyte will be the lad who is loaned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markyboy72 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think Baird is very unlucky not to be in the team - one of our most improved players second half of last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Markyboy72 said: I think Baird is very unlucky not to be in the team - one of our most improved players second half of last season Aye, seems a bit harsh to be favouring Buchanan just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, Markyboy72 said: I think Baird is very unlucky not to be in the team - one of our most improved players second half of last season I agree. I've yet to see anything from Buchanan that makes me think he's even as good as Baird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torfason Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 well a think we be better keeping Baird and loan out Buchanan to alloa or somebody as up until January Gary Mack was going off injured every 2 games and with Davis not back till end of august(if comes)and have to see if he totally fit,and big bairdy tried and tested,no brainer me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossCSmfc Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Keep the four of them if we can afford to. We need them all. GMac has to be our first choice for me (while Harry is injured) but he can't be trusted to be fit and available every week. Harry is out injured for another month and will require a bit extra work, I'd imagine, without having a pre-season. Not sure where JR intends playing Whyte. I know he's comfortable at centre half and central midfield, but we've also seen him at right back in pre season.. Edited July 20, 2017 by RossCSmfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Given his injury list maybe this is the tune... https://g.co/kgs/SQPtfr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorizaar Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 If we were trying to sign any other player who was injured, hadn't played since March and who had no club, there would be an absolute meltdown going on here. Not sure why this is different. There must be 100s of equally adequate, fit, centre halves that could be signed instead if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbar_bud Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 If we were trying to sign any other player who was injured, hadn't played since March and who had no club, there would be an absolute meltdown going on here. Not sure why this is different. There must be 100s of equally adequate, fit, centre halves that could be signed instead if needed. Because it's quite clear if Harry Davis stays fit he would be one of the best defenders in the league Gregor Buchanan fits the bill you mention above, as does Baird. I would be willing to take a chance on Davis knowing the quality he will bring when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Once fit Harry Davis will cigar this league, should be playing at a much higher level. Tremendous signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairters_Corner Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Harry Davis and Gary MacKenzie as our central defence would be fantastic. Sign a decent centre forward and we will finish at least in the top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, JJ McG said: Once fit Harry Davis will cigar this league, should be playing at a much higher level. Tremendous signing. Did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Did I miss something? Nope, but expect news of 2 transfers next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Nope, but expect news of 2 transfers next week. Eta; just a guess of course ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 This just in...... Harry Davis arrives for late night signing talks at the 2021 stadium..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 47 minutes ago, whydowebother said: Nope, but expect news of 2 transfers next week. Why not tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Just now, pod said: Why not tomorrow. Eta; just a guess of course ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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