truesaint Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, faraway saint said: No, this is his contribution................. You are a like a dog with a bone sometimes. Even confirms it on the image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 8 hours ago, oaksoft said: Have we actually ever been in for Stewart or is this yet more Twitter shite? Does anyone actually know? Yes is he real? I mean Iv'e never heard of Stewart Millar either, some people on here Phew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: No, this is his contribution................. Perfect. Thanks. I would have posted something similar but he is still pretending to have me on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 hour ago, truesaint said: You are a like a dog with a bone sometimes. Even confirms it on the image. I actually have no idea what this post means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, jaybee said: Yes is he real? I mean Iv'e never heard of Stewart Millar either, some people on here Phew! I am assuming this is clever but I dont understand this post either. WTF is going on tonight people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Not like people buying season tickets would help get players in at all.Really f**king clueless Just like to sit at home on your computer with a face like a skelped arse moaning like f**k on a forum. I was actually sitting in an all exclusive beach hotel when I posted that , so get it up you [emoji16][emoji483]Are you really that gullible to think if we had sold , say , double the amount of season tickets ,that the money would have gone on players [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Drew said: I assumed he was posting the highlights of oaksoft's contributions for the week so far. You dont have time for posts like this. Arent you busy enough "liking" every post Pozbaird has ever made? He is certainly putting in quite a shift "liking" all of your posts. How either of you can see what you are typing with your heads up each others arses is a mystery to us all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Away and support Celtic or Rangers, then Why would I do that when I’ve supported St Mirren for over 50 years? 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, billyg said: I was actually sitting in an all exclusive beach hotel when I posted that , so get it up you Are you really that gullible to think if we had sold , say , double the amount of season tickets ,that the money would have gone on players If they have let you into this hotel, I'd be careful using the word "exclusive" to describe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 What’s a fodder donkey? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]Look in the mirror , not an exact resemblance but close [emoji23] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossCSmfc Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 8 hours ago, billyg said: Why would I do that when I’ve supported St Mirren for over 50 years? Mainly because all you bring from that sort of attitude is negativity, a lot of it comes out the woodwork as soon as the going gets tough. Take the Alex Rae/JR transition as the most recent example - a section of the support were giving JR a tough time at the start because people thought JR was wasting the money he had on untried signings that nobody had heard of and we had a run of bad results. The other section of the support were supporting their club and JR has credited those supporters as one of the reasons for the turnaround. I’m not saying that Stubbs is going to do anything close to what JR had done for us, but the least he deserves is our support because it doesn’t help anyone with those sorts of comments. Refusing to go and pay to watch the team only hurts us further. I thought “50+ years” of experience watching the club might’ve indicated that (FWIW, I’ve not been here anywhere near that length of time, so maybe my opinion means nothing). We’ll seldom spend money on players to out bid our rivals and will turn to contingency targets if need be - it’s always been that way and always will. I have absolutely no issue with that, especially if it actually bears fruit like it has done over the last couple of years.. Get your hand in your pocket and get supporting the club. COYS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, RossCSmfc said: Mainly because all you bring from that sort of attitude is negativity, a lot of it comes out the woodwork as soon as the going gets tough. Take the Alex Rae/JR transition as the most recent example - a section of the support were giving JR a tough time at the start because people thought JR was wasting the money he had on untried signings that nobody had heard of and we had a run of bad results. The other section of the support were supporting their club and JR has credited those supporters as one of the reasons for the turnaround. I’m not saying that Stubbs is going to do anything close to what JR had done for us, but the least he deserves is our support because it doesn’t help anyone with those sorts of comments. Refusing to go and pay to watch the team only hurts us further. I thought “50+ years” of experience watching the club might’ve indicated that (FWIW, I’ve not been here anywhere near that length of time, so maybe my opinion means nothing). We’ll seldom spend money on players to out bid our rivals and will turn to contingency targets if need be - it’s always been that way and always will. I have absolutely no issue with that, especially if it actually bears fruit like it has done over the last couple of years.. Get your hand in your pocket and get supporting the club. COYS! Budget already been set for Season, Billy not going is irrelevant. Anyway , if income is not what expected then a good business person will adjust it accordingly. Support is from the heart not the wallet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 9 hours ago, oaksoft said: I actually have no idea what this post means. Me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 46 minutes ago, shull said: Budget already been set for Season, Billy not going is irrelevant. Anyway , if income is not what expected then a good business person will adjust it accordingly. Support is from the heart not the wallet . If everyone has Billy's outlook, we won't have a team to "support ". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, munoz said: If everyone has Billy's outlook, we won't have a team to "support ". We will. Just have a smaller budget and probably have to be part time. Support our Club via your heart wherever we may play. COME ON THE SAINTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 hours ago, billyg said: I was actually sitting in an all exclusive beach hotel when I posted that , so get it up you Are you really that gullible to think if we had sold , say , double the amount of season tickets ,that the money would have gone on players "All exclusive", or "self-catering" as we used to call it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 4 hours ago, shull said: Budget already been set for Season, Billy not going is irrelevant. Anyway , if income is not what expected then a good business person will adjust it accordingly. Support is from the heart not the wallet . Often agree with you Shull but not in this case. Won't come as a surprise. I suggest that Fans are: All of those interested in football are Fans of the Game. All of those interested in St Mirren are Fans of St Mirren So far we are in agreement - that's with the heart. Supporters are different. They actively support the club by attending, buying tickets, buying services (TV, Club Membership etc) or through voluntary work. Some do a combination of these. This doesn't diminish the role of the Fan but does differentiate it. You go to games...You are a Fan first and Foremost but you are also a Supporter through which you actively enable the club to maintain and improve the stadium and playing staff. Our club's supporters are taking their involvement further and are buying the club. Why does the distinction matter? It matters a lot. The club is seeking to convert fans into supporters. They have done well over the past 3 seasons to take attendances from 3,000 to 3,600 to 4449 and possibly 5,500 this season. Have just been re-reading the book published to celebrate the 125th Anniversary. Ferguson is credited with single handed raising attendance figures. This generated revenue - this let us recruit better players - this enabled us to challenge for honours. So - Being a Fan is great - the more the merrier - but - being a supporter is essential to the ongoing success of the club. Which grows the Fan base etc etc tc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Often agree with you Shull but not in this case. Won't come as a surprise. I suggest that Fans are: All of those interested in football are Fans of the Game. All of those interested in St Mirren are Fans of St Mirren So far we are in agreement - that's with the heart. Supporters are different. They actively support the club by attending, buying tickets, buying services (TV, Club Membership etc) or through voluntary work. Some do a combination of these. This doesn't diminish the role of the Fan but does differentiate it. You go to games...You are a Fan first and Foremost but you are also a Supporter through which you actively enable the club to maintain and improve the stadium and playing staff. Our club's supporters are taking their involvement further and are buying the club. Why does the distinction matter? It matters a lot. The club is seeking to convert fans into supporters. They have done well over the past 3 seasons to take attendances from 3,000 to 3,600 to 4449 and possibly 5,500 this season. Have just been re-reading the book published to celebrate the 125th Anniversary. Ferguson is credited with single handed raising attendance figures. This generated revenue - this let us recruit better players - this enabled us to challenge for honours. So - Being a Fan is great - the more the merrier - but - being a supporter is essential to the ongoing success of the club. Which grows the Fan base etc etc tc Where do true fans and true supporters come into your equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, pod said: Where do true fans and true supporters come into your equation. If you attend an away game are you a supporter or fan? If you keep saying how good you are does that make you a fanny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Where do true fans and true supporters come into your equation. Where do knicker-wetters and happy clappers fit in ? 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: If you keep saying how good you look does that make you a fanny? Only if you open your eyes when you look in the mirror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 39 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Often agree with you Shull but not in this case. Won't come as a surprise. I suggest that Fans are: All of those interested in football are Fans of the Game. All of those interested in St Mirren are Fans of St Mirren So far we are in agreement - that's with the heart. Supporters are different. They actively support the club by attending, buying tickets, buying services (TV, Club Membership etc) or through voluntary work. Some do a combination of these. This doesn't diminish the role of the Fan but does differentiate it. You go to games...You are a Fan first and Foremost but you are also a Supporter through which you actively enable the club to maintain and improve the stadium and playing staff. Our club's supporters are taking their involvement further and are buying the club. Why does the distinction matter? It matters a lot. The club is seeking to convert fans into supporters. They have done well over the past 3 seasons to take attendances from 3,000 to 3,600 to 4449 and possibly 5,500 this season. Have just been re-reading the book published to celebrate the 125th Anniversary. Ferguson is credited with single handed raising attendance figures. This generated revenue - this let us recruit better players - this enabled us to challenge for honours. So - Being a Fan is great - the more the merrier - but - being a supporter is essential to the ongoing success of the club. Which grows the Fan base etc etc tc Fans are Supporters Supporters are Fans No difference. My Mum was a Supporter and never attended a Match. She was also a Fan. Faraway Saint is both also as is Billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, shull said: Fans are Supporters Supporters are Fans No difference. My Mum was a Supporter and never attended a Match. She was also a Fan. Faraway Saint is both also as is Billy. It seems that years of supporting, or being a fan, doesn't count for FRicky, he's just concerned telling everyone how good he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hay was given massive resources to help us challenge for honours. We got relegated. Hendrie's Team had little resource and was expected to get relegated. Millennium Champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, pod said: Where do true fans and true supporters come into your equation. I treat all fans as sincere and that each and everyone is a true fan. The difference for a supporter is that they turn that interest as a fan into actual support for the club through their purchasing power. Supporters support according to their resources. None though are better than another. Neither are supporters some sort of group of super fans. Edited August 23, 2018 by St.Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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