windae cleaner Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 I don't think it is unique to St Mirren when was the last decent striker produced by Partick, Hamilton, Killie, Morton Old scum etc. McShane has been unlucky with injuries and Jack Smith is still very young and might come good. Dorrens could have been the one, but chose to put his academic career first. And I rate Mitchell. But leaving that aside there clearly is a problem. Griffiths, Russell, May, Shankland, Watt, there are players out there, but when it comes to picking them up at this level we seem to miss out. One thing that all of these players have is physical attributes, strength, speed, sharpness. It's assumed that you cannot coach that but I think you can. And there also mental qualities, focus, calm, dig and again I think you can coach that. The problem is that these are not the qualities that Largs mafia value who are looking for work rate, team work, and keeping possession. While these are good qualities in a defender or a midfielder, for a striker they not really what its about. How many times have we seen players pass the ball when they should be taking responsibility to take on a man in the box and get a shot away. When watching the U20s at that level, Smith and Scullion could both score goals, because they were prepared to have a go. Moving up a level, having a go is all very well but you then need to back that up with being physically able to get away from your marker, I'm not sure at the top level these players have that, although if Scullion worked on his speed he could have and Smith needs to work on both speed and strength. The reason Griffiths, May and Russell are top players is about them being professional on the training ground and making themselves better players at every opportunity. That means working on things beyond simple training, Sadly none of our strikers seem to have that mentality The strikers you mentioned are from the east coast The best forwards in our catchment are hoovered up by the old scum They don't let these players go as easily as defenders and midfielders which we pick up from them quite often Our scouting system needs looked at as i have still yet to see a St Mirren scout at any youth games and i have been involved in youth football for nearly 20 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Everyone expects a young squad next season but the players who make up that squad should be decided by the next manager, not the one who ceases to be manager in 10 days time. The next manager may not rate these players who've just been given two year contracts and may have had his own thoughts on young players to be signed. what a ray of sunshine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 what a ray of sunshine Agree with that, but you are equally not going to invest in Youth and then allow the better more promising young players to be out of contract and or on new contracts that then tie them to the club are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulysses Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Both Baird and Morgan (when he came on) were excellent. Morgan takes his man on and seems pretty quick. Good that these boys have signed contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Baird doesn't look out of place at this level. Obviously still raw at this level but has done well, especially when you consider he's playing alongside a fullback with two years of experience. Think that's probably the longest I've seen Morgan as he usually gets 5-10 min spells when the result is already settled. Looked decent (aside from being as culpable as the others in that stramash) and has a bit of pace. Would rather see him on the wing then Wylde next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Mc Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Rather appropriately for a scunner if season we signed Jack and Victor. What chance they are our centre back pairing for the last game of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditto Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Rather appropriately for a scunner if season we signed Jack and Victor. What chance they are our centre back pairing for the last game of the season? dont understand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm74 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Adam Brown been released, wee bit surprised by that as thought he looked promising and still relatively young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Adam Brown been released, wee bit surprised by that as thought he looked promising and still relatively young. There seemed to be other players in front of him in the pecking order that have came through and had more game time. I'm sure he will find a decent enough club in the summer. All the best to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 There seemed to be other players in front of him in the pecking order that have came through and had more game time. I'm sure he will find a decent enough club in the summer. All the best to him. Was that the boy who played against Hamilton first home game? The one who appeared lost and didn't know what position he was playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scabby Dug Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Adam Brown @AdamBrown_19 8m8 minutes ago Found out today that my time at St.Mirren is up, time to enjoy the break and look forward to a new challenge! #onwards #upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Strange one. Would have said he looked good looks better than cuddihy Seems we may now find out in next 24 hours who's coming and going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Think this could be like craig slater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Strange one. Would have said he looked good looks better than cuddihy Seems we may now find out in next 24 hours who's coming and going Indeed, he's certainly not been the only one who has been told today you'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddies1877 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Think that's a bad choice to let brown go thought he looked no bad. Tommy decision to play him as def mid was a terrible decision to give him his starting debut there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanarkshireBuddie Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I thought wouldve kept him possibly bite us in arse like slater has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Deemed surplus by coaches who see him play and train on a regular basis. I think I'll trust their judgement. Also, Craig Slater asked to leave us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insaintee Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yeah last season he looked very good. Was lost when he played for the big team (as were a good few others). However where would he be close to first pick. In centre mid we have Mallen, McGinn, Goodwin and Reilly. Wide we have Mclear, Morgan. I think he'll get a gig easy enough if he wants it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Deemed surplus by coaches who see him play and train on a regular basis. I think I'll trust their judgement. Also, Craig Slater asked to leave us. Yep he left because he didn't like the coaching and felt he was getting held back. Which he has proven right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billymehmet1 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 If brown gets binned and we keep Thomas Reilly something wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanarkshireBuddie Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Surprised at that thought was one of there better players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I must admit I've never watched an under-20's match but when I saw Brown feature in the first team I thought he looked well out of his depth. Might be being harsh and maybe he deserved more of a chance. If Reilly spent the summer in the gym he might still have a chance at making it. Has ability in there, but he's far too lightweight for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 I must admit I've never watched an under-20's match but when I saw Brown feature in the first team I thought he looked well out of his depth. Might be being harsh and maybe he deserved more of a chance. If Reilly spent the summer in the gym he might still have a chance at making it. Has ability in there, but he's far too lightweight for me. Tommy Craig hung him out to dry as he was switched all over the place Pity as he looked promising pre-season out on the wing Looks like he never recovered from that game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Think this could be like craig slater All he did was score against us, hardly a world beater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Tommy Craig hung him out to dry as he was switched all over the place Pity as he looked promising pre-season out on the wing Looks like he never recovered from that game Yeah, that match at holding midfield could have destroyed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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