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I went to a rugby game a couple of years ago, with a 30,000 odd crowd at Murrayfield. Folk were drinking and engaged with the game, but there wasn't much shouting or noise compared to any football match I've been to. There was unquestonably a different class of clientele at the rugger, but it was a strange atmosphere. I concluded at the time that the spectators probably didn't get too excited at the game because, ultimately, rugby doesn't matter as much to people as football does.

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I was at that very same rugby match that Stu Dick referred to and the atmosphere was pish. Never been as bored in my life.

Which one? The Scotland v Italy match had a great deal of noise and it was quite an exciting match with Italy stealing the win right at the end. The Edinburgh v Glasgow game was very one sided and as a result pretty boring on a freezing cold night but there was still plenty of noise - certainly considerably more than I've heard at Greenhill Road in any of the 3 or 4 games I attended this season.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a rugby fan. I get dragged along to matches by my girlfriend and some of her friends. Typically I go for the pre or after match meal and to consume enough alcohol to make the fact that I'm getting a lift home worth it. However it's ridiculous to claim as Pozbaird has done that somehow rugby fans are less passionate than football fans.

Like Poz I enjoy the NFL more. I wouldn't go to Wembley for the franchised pish drip fed to the UK market though. I prefer to go to Tampa and watch the Buccaneers getting f**ked off whoever they are playing that day. It's a good day out, with passionate fans who take the game really seriously, who shout all manner of out of order comments at the opposition, and yet they do that whilst often sitting right next to fans supporting the opposition. I'm told that only Oakland v San Francisco matches are different from the rest where the tailgate parties see opposition supporters sharing alcohol and food and where they all sit together in the stadium despite all the supporters having a legal right to carry guns.

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I was asked in another thread to find out the clubs position on ensuring there is an area of the West Stand kept for un-reserved seating. The thinking being that a season ticket holder bringing a mate(s) along to a game would be gratefulfor the option of sitting with them in the un-reserved seating area.

The original question i was asked was why W5 was not kept open. This is the answer I got back from Brian this morning;

W5 is the section that we sell season tickets up to almost half way? Most people have renewed in this area.

We will of course open W5 as much as possible next season as we normally do but it actually saves us stewarding for small supports to allow them to occupy W6 & W7 and segregate and keep North closed.

Looking at opposition can only see that being relevant for maybe Alloa, possibly Livi and possibly Dumbarton although Hibs/Rangers/Morton/Motherwell may go over capacity in North Stand and may require W6/7.

We always where possible keep W5 from seat 130 available and W6 onwards for anyone who wants to bring a friend and be assured if it works we want to encourage people especially new people to come along!

I hope the stewards will also be made aware of this. Whilst sitting in W6, I witnessed two young men move from W1 or W2 to W6 for the second half when the stewards came up and inspected their tickets and then told them to go back to their allocated seats. The stadium was half empty. The guys looked like students or tourists and I've never seen them before or since.

On a side note, I would love for St.Mirren to consider an iniative like this for fans...........http://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2014/09/16/new-fir-park-flexi-ticket/

I can't make mid week games which there were 4 of last year not including Friday's or cup ties therefore I don't find it worthwhile to buy a season ticket but would certainly buy a ten game match package.

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Like Poz I enjoy the NFL more. I wouldn't go to Wembley for the franchised pish drip fed to the UK market though. I prefer to go to Tampa and watch the Buccaneers getting f**ked off whoever they are playing that day.

I genuinely do not understand this. The games at Wembley are regular season NFL games, indeed this season sees the first divisional game in London between Miami Dolphins and the New York Jets. This is the equivalent of Man Utd v Liverpool being played in New York, and I do not mean a pre-season tour game, I mean a proper 3 points for grabs league game.

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I think we should be able to allow away fan families to mingle with home fan families in the family stand. Suppose all it takes is 1 idiot to say something stupid and the panda club could kick off and start a riot.

I think a couple of other clubs do this so away fans can benefit from the same family discounts as the home fans.

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Which one? The Scotland v Italy match had a great deal of noise and it was quite an exciting match with Italy stealing the win right at the end. The Edinburgh v Glasgow game was very one sided and as a result pretty boring on a freezing cold night but there was still plenty of noise - certainly considerably more than I've heard at Greenhill Road in any of the 3 or 4 games I attended this season.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a rugby fan. I get dragged along to matches by my girlfriend and some of her friends. Typically I go for the pre or after match meal and to consume enough alcohol to make the fact that I'm getting a lift home worth it. However it's ridiculous to claim as Pozbaird has done that somehow rugby fans are less passionate than football fans.

Like Poz I enjoy the NFL more. I wouldn't go to Wembley for the franchised pish drip fed to the UK market though. I prefer to go to Tampa and watch the Buccaneers getting f**ked off whoever they are playing that day. It's a good day out, with passionate fans who take the game really seriously, who shout all manner of out of order comments at the opposition, and yet they do that whilst often sitting right next to fans supporting the opposition. I'm told that only Oakland v San Francisco matches are different from the rest where the tailgate parties see opposition supporters sharing alcohol and food and where they all sit together in the stadium despite all the supporters having a legal right to carry guns.

The Scotland v Italy one. It was shit. I spent most of the match talking to an Aberdeen fan about football.

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I think we should be able to allow away fan families to mingle with home fan families in the family stand. Suppose all it takes is 1 idiot to say something stupid and the panda club could kick off and start a riot.

I think a couple of other clubs do this so away fans can benefit from the same family discounts as the home fans.

They should also be allowed to take a bottle of water or fizzy juice into the game similar to England. Do they really think they are going to throw it at a player or official? Or is it so you have to buy it once inside at monopolised prices?

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I went in fast to make sure I could get the seat wanted after all its a very small stadium we cant even half fill so surly there is somewhere better for you to sit mate

My boy attends some games and my mate attends some games so the best place to sit is W6/W7 where we can sit together and get a decent view.

If I buy a season ticket, I can't sit with them at the Celtic or Sevco games, and by the looks of it, most games in the Championship, with this area either closed or given up to the away support.

So there is absolutely no incentive for me to buy a season ticket.

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I think we should be able to allow away fan families to mingle with home fan families in the family stand. Suppose all it takes is 1 idiot to say something stupid and the panda club could kick off and start a riot.

I think a couple of other clubs do this so away fans can benefit from the same family discounts as the home fans.

The fakes saints been doing it for at least 20 years, since it must have been around that time me, wife and 2 brats watch us drawing 1-1 with a Kenny Gillies goal with Money playing a blinder in goals, and as AFAIK they have never been any problem since. Money wise it can temp a family to go who might have had 2nd thoughts about it. Clubs should deals with others clubs as we will let your oap in for this amount, kids for this amount, unemployed , season holders etc. Encouraged people to go to games even if they pay little at the gate since more ground are half empty.

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The fakes saints been doing it for at least 20 years, since it must have been around that time me, wife and 2 brats watch us drawing 1-1 with a Kenny Gillies goal with Money playing a blinder in goals, and as AFAIK they have never been any problem since. Money wise it can temp a family to go who might have had 2nd thoughts about it. Clubs should deals with others clubs as we will let your oap in for this amount, kids for this amount, unemployed , season holders etc. Encouraged people to go to games even if they pay little at the gate since more ground are half empty.

I've often thought that clubs should get together and offer discounts for away fans who attend on a regular basis. Offer an away Season Ticket option for discounted entry based on 5, 10, 15, 20 games with more discount the more games you intend to go to.

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I've often thought that clubs should get together and offer discounts for away fans who attend on a regular basis. Offer an away Season Ticket option for discounted entry based on 5, 10, 15, 20 games with more discount the more games you intend to go to.

Think Partick Thistle tried to do something like that but got no encouragement off other teams.

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There are plenty empty seats in the Main and Family Stands for Season Ticket holders and their friends to sit together.

Get organised.

FFS

If that's aimed at me, I'd rather not go than pay £20 to sit in the Family Stand, unless it was a really big game. It is an awful view.

I've had to sit in the Main Stand in the past and will do so again no doubt. It's ok unless you get one of those rare sunny days.

However you are missing the point. If I buy a season ticket it would have to be beside 2 empty seats so that I could sit next to my boy and my mate when we're all there. Even if there is such a seat available in a row near the back how do I know someone else won't buy a season ticket for the empty seats after I've bought mine?

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I've often thought that clubs should get together and offer discounts for away fans who attend on a regular basis. Offer an away Season Ticket option for discounted entry based on 5, 10, 15, 20 games with more discount the more games you intend to go to.

Doubt that would ever work, who would you buy such a ticket from for example? Cash would need to be divided up between all clubs participating in such a venture, and they would all need to play ball for it to work.

I can see the point of the idea when the objective is to get folk into an otherwise empty stadium...there are difficulties when you include clubs like Hearts, Aberdeen and the uglies who tend to bring more support than others, and also are more likely to sell out the home end with the option to acutely cut the away allocation. For any club the option of putting home fans first needs to be there, which means guarantees about away allocations in advance of the season might be undesirable.

The only ones who can help mobilise the away support of smaller clubs are the clubs themselves, for bigger clubs like Hearts the loyalty points system works well since demand tends to be good for away games, for SMFC it wouldn't work so well since the question is not who gets the away tickets, but who wants them, and what can we do to make you go smile.png

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There are not enough seats with a decent view in the stadium in my opinion.

The vast majority of the best seats are taken up by season ticket holders.

I was unfortunate in the allocation of my seat when we moved to the new ground. I had a great seat in the Northbank in Love St but my preferences were ignored and I was allocated a seat in Row G in line with the 18 yard line at the home end. A crap view, I only sat in it twice and I have never had a season ticket since.

For me, you have to have a seat in the back 4 or 5 rows of the new ground to get a decent view. That means when W6 and W7 is unavailable to the home support I am not particularly keen to part with my £20.

I understand why people who have the best seats just now wouldn't want to give them up but they have no divine right to them and I would be very much in favour of an unollocated seating policy.

I can't see the club going for that, with some people already having paid to have their names on their seats.

It's all down to poor stadium design, we could have had 2 decent sized stands and other facilities behind the goals. it would have made for a better atmosphere, allowed for better conference facilities in the larger stands and would have been ideal for accomodating non-soccer events.

this is still the first thing i will sort out after colecting my 70 million on saturday morning

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It's all down to poor stadium design, we could have had 2 decent sized stands and other facilities behind the goals. it would have made for a better atmosphere, allowed for better conference facilities in the larger stands and would have been ideal for accomodating non-soccer events.

this is still the first thing i will sort out after colecting my 70 million on saturday morning

Yes, because nobody has ever sagged off a ground with only two stands.

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Yes, because nobody has ever sagged off a ground with only two stands.

two stands and two big empty spaces would be silly, but 2 big stands would have been cheaper to build than 4 little ones, some screening and decor would have looked great behind the goals

And surely you don't think people dont slag off our current configuration. You build what is the best for the club, not what satisfies non-supporters

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It's all down to poor stadium design, we could have had 2 decent sized stands and other facilities behind the goals. it would have made for a better atmosphere, allowed for better conference facilities in the larger stands and would have been ideal for accomodating non-soccer events.

this is still the first thing i will sort out after colecting my 70 million on saturday morning

two stands and two big empty spaces would be silly, but 2 big stands would have been cheaper to build than 4 little ones, some screening and decor would have looked great behind the goals

And surely you don't think people dont slag off our current configuration. You build what is the best for the club, not what satisfies non-supporters

Make up your mind.

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