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[guinness 700]

Biggest problem seems to be how many people even know about this Meeting on Thursday?. Very little coverage in press. I signed up early doors but know many who know nothing about it. All eggs seem to be in 1 basket re a Meeting that has been barely publicised.

[Vambo57 1,608]

I'm worried too. Not just about the (what seems like the one and only public meeting), but the general "getting the word out to those not on these pages.

It's post season, we cannot rely on word of mouth... Has there been any progress in getting the Season ticket holders and/or 10000hrs details for a mail/email shot?

There was approx 1600 10000hrs signups, we're way short of that...

Edited May 16, 2016 by Vambo57

[aldo_j 2,156]

Biggest problem seems to be how many people even know about this Meeting on Thursday?. Very little coverage in press. I signed up early doors but know many who know nothing about it. All eggs seem to be in 1 basket re a Meeting that has been barely publicised.

Agreed. Should have been in the national papers at the weekend and then followed up again this week.

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,955]

The word has not been properly put out there I would be surprised if there are anything near 200 fans at Thursdays meeting.

Someone wrote this bid has been done at the wrong time of the year I tend to agree with that. Paisley express will give good coverage I would imagine but what is its circulation. National papers will just cover a wee story which might be hard to find.

Will be very surprised if this bid succeeds.

[Ronnie 1,144]

The only people who seem aware of this meeting and therefore will be only ones to turn up are the 555 people already signed up so seems like Thursday could be a complete waste of time.

If the people behind this can't do a simple thing like get a meeting well publicised that could determine the whole future of the club what chance have they got of running the club successfully in the future.

[oaksoft 13,067]

It does seem odd that there is limited publicity of this.

In fairness it doesn't auger well that the new incumbents appear to be suffering from the same inability to sell the club as the current board.

I don't want to overly criticise for reasons I have expressed elsewhere but the lack of leadership is very strange.

Where on earth is Gordon for example?

Why is he not more visible?

Especially with the bid running out of time and stalled membership.

I might be coming across as harsh but there does seem to be very little energy about this entire campaign.

Edited May 16, 2016 by oaksoft

[Drew 21,116]

It does seem odd that there is limited publicity of this.

In fairness it doesn't auger well that the new incumbents appear to be suffering from the same inability to sell the club as the current board.

I don't want to overly criticise for reasons I have expressed elsewhere but the lack of leadership is very strange.

Where on earth is Gordon for example?

Why is he not more visible?

Especially with the bid running out of time and stalled membership.

I might be coming across as harsh but there does seem to be very little energy about this entire campaign.

I don't recall a great deal more energy surrounding 10000Hours. I think people have simply become club sale fatigued. Combine that with 3 largely abysmal seasons, and its perhaps not surprising that folk aren't particularly turned onto this.

The media are also less interested now that we are even diddier than previously, and a second bid for fan ownership is less newsworthy in any event (ETA - especially when every spare column inch is devoted to the Dundee United and Hibs clusterf**ks, Celtic's managerial situation, and who Sevco might or might not be signing).

This bid was always going to be up against it. I daresay things could have been done better, but its important to take account of factors out with their influence.

Edited May 16, 2016 by Drew

[Kendo 7,162]

The word has not been properly put out there I would be surprised if there are anything near 200 fans at Thursdays meeting.

Someone wrote this bid has been done at the wrong time of the year I tend to agree with that. Paisley express will give good coverage I would imagine but what is its circulation. National papers will just cover a wee story which might be hard to find.

Will be very surprised if this bid succeeds.

Be prepared to be surprised.

[faraway saint 30,081]

Be prepared to be surprised.

Indeed, shocked more likely.

[oaksoft 13,067]

I don't recall a great deal more energy surrounding 10000Hours. I think people have simply become club sale fatigued. Combine that with 3 largely abysmal seasons, and its perhaps not surprising that folk aren't particularly turned onto this.

The media are also less interested now that we are even diddier than previously, and a second bid for fan ownership is less newsworthy in any event (ETA - especially when every spare column inch is devoted to the Dundee United and Hibs clusterf**ks, Celtic's managerial situation, and who Sevco might or might not be signing).

This bid was always going to be up against it. I daresay things could have been done better, but its important to take account of factors out with their influence.

Yep you may have a point about sale fatigue but the newspaper thing is irrelevant in the days of social media.

[Drew 21,116]

Yep you may have a point about sale fatigue but the newspaper thing is irrelevant in the days of social media.

I use the term 'column inches' loosely to include any and all media coverage.

[faraway saint 30,081]

I use the term 'column inches' loosely to include any and all media coverage.

Obviously.

[Drew 21,116]

Obviously.

I assumed it might be.

[buddiecat 4,398]

Do people not realise how hard it is to get a story in the national press ? SMiSA board members have been trying individually and as a group to drum up interest from the national press, they simply don't want to see past premiership teams. They have given us some column inches, but we would have been given more if we were from Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Dundee. We have had coverage on radio and TV but again it would have been more if we were from a bigger city with more readers/watchers of newspapers and TV.

The SMiSA board and a few members/prospective members have been doing a lot of work for over a year on this bid. We have asked for help from anyone with any experience in professions that could help the bid, the response from some has been terrific, but i expected a lot more to offer to help.

The club were asked about getting season ticket buyers lists and have been told we can't be given these, i presume data protection issues come into being with both the club and 10k hours when it comes to giving out personal details.

I am quite disappointed that some fans want to come on here and state "this will never happen" or words to that effect, what purpose does that serve ? I have a lot of faith in our fans, and expect to see an uplift in sign ups soon.

Thanks to all who have signed up and to those who will.

[faraway saint 30,081]

Do people not realise how hard it is to get a story in the national press ? SMiSA board members have been trying individually and as a group to drum up interest from the national press, they simply don't want to see past premiership teams. They have given us some column inches, but we would have been given more if we were from Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Dundee. We have had coverage on radio and TV but again it would have been more if we were from a bigger city with more readers/watchers of newspapers and TV.

The SMiSA board and a few members/prospective members have been doing a lot of work for over a year on this bid. We have asked for help from anyone with any experience in professions that could help the bid, the response from some has been terrific, but i expected a lot more to offer to help.

The club were asked about getting season ticket buyers lists and have been told we can't be given these, i presume data protection issues come into being with both the club and 10k hours when it comes to giving out personal details.

I am quite disappointed that some fans want to come on here and state "this will never happen" or words to that effect, what purpose does that serve ? I have a lot of faith in our fans, and expect to see an uplift in sign ups soon.

Thanks to all who have signed up and to those who will.

I think some fans are entitled to express concerns that the bid has slowed down and, at the moment, looking like coming up considerably short of the target.

I think the unsubstantiated claims it's almost a done deal are rather foolish and don't serve any real purpose,

I've already stated I think it's the right move but I'm still of the opinion, and have been for some time, it'll fall short.

Why or how is certainly up for debate.

PS If it does fail it certainly won't be because of a few negative comments on here.

Edited May 16, 2016 by faraway saint

[buddiecat 4,398]

I think some fans are entitled to express concerns that the bid has slowed down and, at the moment, looking like coming up considerably short of the target.

I think the unsubstantiated claims it's almost a done deal are rather foolish and don't serve any real purpose,

I've already stated I think it's the right move but I'm still of the opinion, and have been for some time, it'll fall short.

Why or how is certainly up for debate.

PS If it does fail it certainly won't be because of a few negative comments on here.

That's the point though, it cannot be short of target until the target date is set - expect that date soon. The survey we conducted last year got a very positive response and gave us the the inspiration to proceed with a bid. A fair number of people who replied to the survey and said they would sign up for a fan buy out, have still to do so, and i expect they will be as good as their word.

I know it will not fail due to negative comments on here, i just don't understand the need to be negative about it.

[guinness 700]

I have watched st mirren for over 50 years. I have never seen Gordon Scott and have no idea who he is.know he was a director once but I have never seen or heard him contribute to anything. Maybe my fault I read and listen to the wrong things

[pozbaird 20,991]

I am convinced the 10000hours bid was more visible. I think REA put himself in the picture far more, to be agreed with, disagreed with, or shot at in equal measure. Perhaps the 10000hours bid benefitted from taking place against a Scottish football landscape where fresh in the memory were characters like Craigie 'wealth off the radar' Whyte, Charlie 'chuckles' Green, 'Mad Vlad' Romanov, and that smarmy gobshite at Kilmarnock.

There was definitely a feeling of 'Oh shitttttteeeee... this could happen to us' and REA tapped into that. There was talk of Gilmour & Co only selling to those with St Mirren's interests at heart, but rumours flew around of a bid from Angelo Massone, and who knows who else. I think fans at the time felt our club could be threatened.

Can only speak for myself, but when 10000hours finally failed, just about the last thing I wanted to hear any more about was St Mirren and the words 'for sale'. If St Mirren appeared to be in grave danger, if excrement was heading in the direction of our fan (not Dicko, he's a customer), then I have no doubt the SMiSA/GLS bid would have reached 1000 sign ups in jig time. Hearts and Sevco's big troubles seem to have quietened down. The crisis, the urgency, the absolute need to act fast just does not seem to be there.

I also feel the leaders of the SMiSA/GLS bid have not nearly been visible enough or vocal enough. It all seems a bit 'meh' to me.

Edited May 16, 2016 by pozbaird

[Stu 3,444]

I have watched st mirren for over 50 years. I have never seen Gordon Scott and have no idea who he is.know he was a director once but I have never seen or heard him contribute to anything. Maybe my fault I read and listen to the wrong things

And this is partly why GLS should have been giving interviews in the press and on Sportsound, who have asked him on.

[notabuddie 117]

I was in Dundee at the time of 10000hrs and I was aware of that bid. I was aware of at least a couple of meetings. This bid is lacking something as if I had not joined this forum I probably would not be aware of a bid never mind any meeting this week

[JJ McG 4,257]

I have watched st mirren for over 50 years. I have never seen Gordon Scott and have no idea who he is.know he was a director once but I have never seen or heard him contribute to anything. Maybe my fault I read and listen to the wrong things

You thought Kyle Hutton was a striker.

[Callum Gilhooley 10,016]

I have watched st mirren for over 50 years. I have never seen Gordon Scott and have no idea who he is.know he was a director once but I have never seen or heard him contribute to anything. Maybe my fault I read and listen to the wrong things

http://www.saintmirren.net/pages/?page_id=300

[oaksoft 13,067]

Do people not realise how hard it is to get a story in the national press ? SMiSA board members have been trying individually and as a group to drum up interest from the national press, they simply don't want to see past premiership teams. They have given us some column inches, but we would have been given more if we were from Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Dundee. We have had coverage on radio and TV but again it would have been more if we were from a bigger city with more readers/watchers of newspapers and TV.

The SMiSA board and a few members/prospective members have been doing a lot of work for over a year on this bid. We have asked for help from anyone with any experience in professions that could help the bid, the response from some has been terrific, but i expected a lot more to offer to help.

The club were asked about getting season ticket buyers lists and have been told we can't be given these, i presume data protection issues come into being with both the club and 10k hours when it comes to giving out personal details.

I am quite disappointed that some fans want to come on here and state "this will never happen" or words to that effect, what purpose does that serve ? I have a lot of faith in our fans, and expect to see an uplift in sign ups soon.

Thanks to all who have signed up and to those who will.

I just explained to Drew that the National press is totally irrelevant now.

Social media is the way forwards.

[oaksoft 13,067]

I assumed it might be.

Then your comment made no sense.

Celtic and Rangers cant hog social media like they can with the mainstream media so that cant be a reason.

Edited May 16, 2016 by oaksoft

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,955]

Do people not realise how hard it is to get a story in the national press ? SMiSA board members have been trying individually and as a group to drum up interest from the national press, they simply don't want to see past premiership teams. They have given us some column inches, but we would have been given more if we were from Glasgow, Aberdeen, Edinburgh or Dundee. We have had coverage on radio and TV but again it would have been more if we were from a bigger city with more readers/watchers of newspapers and TV.

The SMiSA board and a few members/prospective members have been doing a lot of work for over a year on this bid. We have asked for help from anyone with any experience in professions that could help the bid, the response from some has been terrific, but i expected a lot more to offer to help.

The club were asked about getting season ticket buyers lists and have been told we can't be given these, i presume data protection issues come into being with both the club and 10k hours when it comes to giving out personal details.

I am quite disappointed that some fans want to come on here and state "this will never happen" or words to that effect, what purpose does that serve ? I have a lot of faith in our fans, and expect to see an uplift in sign ups soon.

Thanks to all who have signed up and to those who will.

What use is all the hard work if it is not getting across to the larger Saints support which is what most of us are saying that should be seen as constructive criticism.

Lets look at 10,000 hours REA was always available on this site to answer questions which in my opinion helped to boost the numbers.

Lets look at when the new stadium was being built. Gordon Scott was available on the official web forum site with his own section to answer questions.

Who is answering questions regarding this buy out as all i am seeing is you mate , by the way i am signed up. Why is Gordon not on here Div would give him hiw own section to answer questions I'm very sure it would boost numbers.

So my question on Thursday if I could go would by. Gordon why have you ignored all media shows where been invited. Why are you not on a fans forum to answer questions.

For me something dose not smell right or maybe a better way to describe it is bells are ringing.

Hope I am wrong.