oaksoft Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, northstbuddie said: The pot calling the kettle black? I will agree to whatever calms you down my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Soctty said: Eckersley was named by Sutton on live TV as he was saying the dressing room was full of snakes - he has every right to reply to him and make his point. The rest I agree with. Aye and by allowing his ego to do the talking, he made it worse. He has been attacked as part of his employment with our club. Eckersley should have left it to the club to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renfrew bud Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Seem to remember that other idiot Craig Burley making comments about St. Mirren during a live game and he wasn’t allowed back could the same request be made to BT about Sutton. Also how do all these stories get out to the press - particularly the Sun ? Is there someone at the club leaking them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: 100% Billy Friday was a positive we should build on that not distract. Bring on Hamilton COYS. Hamilton on Saturday. Pay at the gate. A chance to build on Friday's result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 hours ago, renfrew bud said: Seem to remember that other idiot Craig Burley making comments about St. Mirren during a live game and he wasn’t allowed back could the same request be made to BT about Sutton. Also how do all these stories get out to the press - particularly the Sun ? Is there someone at the club leaking them. You over estimate journalism these days. Most of what makes the tabloids in terms of Scottish football is not actually presented to the press or a journalist. Your average sports journalist just spends his day trawling forum like this and twitter in the hope something is reportable. Think someone made the point a few years ago by picking 1 or 2 names to be linked with us with the sole objective of proving this is what journalists do and for it to be either printed or hit a website as an 'exclusive' and sure enough, within 48 hours it was out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 14 hours ago, oaksoft said: Aye and by allowing his ego to do the talking, he made it worse. He has been attacked as part of his employment with our club. Eckersley should have left it to the club to respond. It was his character that was called into question - he had every right to respond puclicly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, Soctty said: It was his character that was called into question - he had every right to respond puclicly. Just as everyone else does on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankin_panda Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 17 hours ago, renfrew bud said: Seem to remember that other idiot Craig Burley making comments about St. Mirren during a live game and he wasn’t allowed back could the same request be made to BT about Sutton. Also how do all these stories get out to the press - particularly the Sun ? Is there someone at the club leaking them. We were linked to Kenny Miller for a while....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 23 hours ago, bazil85 said: It doesn't 'mean nothing unless you can prove it in court' the club can issue a letter of complaint without having (or wanting) to follow official channels or go to court. I'm sure they only want an acknowledgement of his mistake and unacceptable behaviour, not the man to be disciplined and sacked. BT and Chris could acknowledge it wasn't acceptable without any further escalation. NSB said "formal legal letter of complaint" (whatever that is) now you tell me the point of issuing something like that if you dont intend to follow it up in court. Issuing "legal" letters (i presume he means a letter drafted and submitted by a practising solicitor in the relevant field) only begets the other side to pass the matter on to their solicitors, followed by a series of letters being issued, followed by claims and counter claims and more meetings and letters until someone blinks and ends up with nothing more than a bill for several thousand pounds. I suspect Sutton is NOT an employee of BT sport and is merely a jobbing self-employed pundit, so getting BT to do anything as a means of censure would be hard. At the very best, they might decide not to use him without any mention of the reasons why. In other words, this is all a pile of jizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, beyond our ken said: NSB said "formal legal letter of complaint" (whatever that is) now you tell me the point of issuing something like that if you dont intend to follow it up in court. Issuing "legal" letters (i presume he means a letter drafted and submitted by a practising solicitor in the relevant field) only begets the other side to pass the matter on to their solicitors, followed by a series of letters being issued, followed by claims and counter claims and more meetings and letters until someone blinks and ends up with nothing more than a bill for several thousand pounds. I suspect Sutton is NOT an employee of BT sport and is merely a jobbing self-employed pundit, so getting BT to do anything as a means of censure would be hard. At the very best, they might decide not to use him without any mention of the reasons why. In other words, what I've written is all a pile of jizz I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 19 hours ago, beyond our ken said: NSB said "formal legal letter of complaint" (whatever that is) now you tell me the point of issuing something like that if you dont intend to follow it up in court. Issuing "legal" letters (i presume he means a letter drafted and submitted by a practising solicitor in the relevant field) only begets the other side to pass the matter on to their solicitors, followed by a series of letters being issued, followed by claims and counter claims and more meetings and letters until someone blinks and ends up with nothing more than a bill for several thousand pounds. I suspect Sutton is NOT an employee of BT sport and is merely a jobbing self-employed pundit, so getting BT to do anything as a means of censure would be hard. At the very best, they might decide not to use him without any mention of the reasons why. In other words, this is all a pile of jizz Have you ever issued a complaint (all complaints fall under legislative and regulatory requirements, legal letter is just a bit of jargon) to a company that's not ended up in court proceedings? I'll rephrase, have you ever issued a complaint to a company that HAS ended up in court proceedings? Court isn't usually the normal step for these kind of complaints. He doesn't necessarily, what you're talking about there is a petition for court not a letter of complaint (legal or otherwise as stated). They can seek legal advice and channels to follow without it automatically ending up as a court issue. Court is only one part of any legal framework. I agree, he likely is contracted or self-employed, something like that. I don't however agree St Mirren will be looking for compensatory or any other sort of court action against him though that others have eluded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Tam McManus backing Saints position on this earlier on the John Beattie BBC Shortbread programme. He said that Sutton was out of order, and St Mirren quite correct in considering taking action in terms of supporting staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Therin lies the root of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 59 minutes ago, St.Ricky said: Therin lies the root of the problem. FFS He's found a site to post more utter shite. Suppose it reduces his spelling mistakes. Please, someone, break the internet in Stirling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, faraway saint said: FFS He's found a site to post more utter shite. Suppose it reduces his spelling mistakes. Please, someone, break the internet in Stirling. Slow, slow and slower F Man. Wind your brain up and slow your fingers down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthebuddie Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 The fact of the matter is Sutton is an ex player, now nobody,who only does what he does (talk shite and try to get folk wound up) to try and project some self importance. A twat he is but not worthy of any second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Deekthebuddie said: The fact of the matter is Sutton is an ex player, now nobody,who only does what he does (talk shite and try to get folk wound up) to try and project some self importance. A twat he is but not worthy of any second thought. He says ... posting his second thought two weeks after the event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthebuddie Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 Well, working hard does have the disadvantage of not being able to commit to being a keyboard warrior full time. Love the fact that you've taken the time to take issue with the timing of my post. The secret bastard child of Sutton- perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted October 1, 2018 Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Deekthebuddie said: Well, working hard does have the disadvantage of not being able to commit to being a keyboard warrior full time. Love the fact that you've taken the time to take issue with the timing of my post. The secret bastard child of Sutton- perhaps? I preferred the Yoda-like quality of your previous post, ("A twat he is but not worthy of any second thought"). You don't see any irony at all in advising the forum to move on and forget about Sutton almost 2 weeks after the final post in the thread until you posted telling us to forget about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 Fans who complained to BT Sports have now had a reply from the broadcaster, which basically says St Mirren will be invited to have a representative on one of BT Sports panel shows about Scottish football to give their side of the story on the dismissal of Alan Stubbs. I can't see why we'd be interested in doing that other than perhaps to challenge the comments about poisonous snakes in the dressing room. I do wonder if BT Sport's reply might inadvertently have revealed that Sutton was giving Stubbs' side of the story no doubt breaching any confidentiality clauses in the agreement when Stubbs was dismissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 He's history, lets move on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted October 3, 2018 Report Share Posted October 3, 2018 He's history, lets move on!Agree , we should consign his disastrous period with us to the same place we keep memories of Murray , Rae & Craig hidden away.Hopefully no one will take up the BT offer , especially no one with official ties to the club.Onward & Upward , COYS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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