The Jim Goodwin and Lee Sharp Appreciation Thread

[The Original 59er]

Personally, I am slightly surprised with the Aberdeen interest. As others have stated 7 games ago, would he have been in the mix........ I really doubt it.

Yes, it's all about timing and in that respect another Saints manager (JG) has had a semi-reasonable run of results (not dissimilar to Ross at the time when he went to Sunderland) and is hyped up as being the next best thing since sliced bread.

As I said in a previous post, he will go if offered the post, if for no other reason his stock right now is pretty high in Scottish terms, but Aberdeen are taking another financial gamble and their patience may not be that long if it takes two to three years to sort out their basic problems.

As for the knicker wetters out there, there are quite a number of good people who would be interested in the Paisley job right now. Yes it's disruptive, but we certainly shouldn't be pessimistic, nor fatalistic that we still can make the top 6.

[Sweeper07]

11 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

If he hasn't been offered the job he will still be with us. That's the scenario I was alluding to.

Yeah I get that but rumour is McManus is now in charge of the 1st team... JG is gone

[antrin]

10 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

Yeah I get that but rumour is McManus is now in charge of the 1st team... JG is gone

First inkling that I should take the hype seriously….  

[Callum Gilhooley]

47 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Welcome back, that's funny.

Goodwin wouldn't be pondering anything if Aberdeen hadn't sacked Glass.

Bringing Tony into this is beyond the realms of reality.

 

Welcome back ?  
 

I hadn’t been away . 🙄

[magnus]

11 minutes ago, Sweeper07 said:

Yeah I get that but rumour is McManus is now in charge of the 1st team... JG is gone

I think we are at least a day behind what's happening. Looks to be gone.

[pod]

44 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

I'm pretty certain the deal's been done before both clubs announced this.

If the deal isn't done then they are still benefitting from our team being in turmoil over the next few days after which they could appoint someone else.

 

 

If the deal had been done, then there would be no turmoil and we may have had new manager in place, if he was up for it(JR)

[faraway saint]

12 minutes ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

Welcome back ?  
 

I hadn’t been away . 🙄

Being funny. 

[Rascal]

1 hour ago, alanb said:

Losing managers like this is always disappointing but much more preferable than having to sack them instead.

Very true. A sign that we have benefited from having them at the club so a win win

[pod]

53 minutes ago, stlucifer said:

ETAA: Is it sensible to let JG pick the team and tactics for tomorrow given he might benefit from us losing?

Think Aberdeen would rather see Livingston losing. 

[portmahomack saint]

Will keep my own counsel on the the Goodwin Gate debacle till it's finalised....

In the meantime if he leaves there's 2 obvious candidates for me Jack Ross and Derek Mcinnes I expect one to take charge immediately it's a no brainer 

[TopCat]

1 hour ago, lenziebud said:

 

Wonder if he would have been in the running 7 games back ??

 

 

No, and that's kind of the reason he should be taking it. He might not be in the running in seven games time either. Managerial stocks fall and rise very quickly. It seemed to be a question of what bigger club Callum Davidson would be moving to in the summer, now he looks like he could be sacked by St Johnstone. None of our previous managers are currently managing at full time level and Jim is always a bad run away from being out a job. He may never get a chance to manage a bigger club like Aberdeen again, so no one can blame him for taking it. 

[Tommy]

If Jim managed to get to Aberdeen today for his interview, he would have done well considering how bad the weather is there ❄️❄️

Apart from JR, has any team ever gave us cash before for our manager  ?

[djchapsticks]

3 minutes ago, Tommy said:

If Jim managed to get to Aberdeen today for his interview, he would have done well considering how bad the weather is there ❄️❄️

Apart from JR, has any team ever gave us cash before for our manager  ?

Think we got money off the glue factory for Stubbs.

[Tommy]

3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Think we got money off the glue factory for Stubbs.

But not from an other club   

[TopCat]

23 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said:

 

In the meantime if he leaves there's 2 obvious candidates for me Jack Ross and Derek Mcinnes I expect one to take charge immediately it's a no brainer 

Can't see us paying Killie compo for McInnes just a few weeks after he joined them. I'm hoping for Paul Lambert.

[elvis]

1 hour ago, pod said:

Think Aberdeen would rather see Livingston losing. 

Be disappointed then.

[pod]

2 hours ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

I know Fitz thinks the world of Goody and from what I could see the feeling was mutual . Could the dons move simply have come at a time where Goody was pondering what the future might hold at Buddies ?

 

If Goody was pondering, then we should all be worrying. 

 

[Rascal]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jim-goodwin-given-aberdeen-green-26267572
 

Jim Goodwin NOT at our Pre Match Press Conference

[Maboza]

Disappointing to lose Goodie. As likeable and decent a manager that we’ll ever have and someone who really knows and loves the club.

Tough gig for him at Aberdeen but I genuinely wish him well and wouldn’t want him to fail. Got to respect his ambition to go to another level and earn a much higher salary for his family.
 

Just a shame that it’s coming about on such a good run of form. It would have been good to see if he could’ve delivered top 6 for us.
 

There’s a bit of this that is him leaving while his stock is high, rather than some of the long lows we’ve tolerated without being under any major pressure. 

Credit deserved where it’s due for stabilising and improving SMFC.  Football and tactics weren’t great for spells and was never the most open and expansive football, but his league position last year is the standout in our recent history. Slight disappointment that he didn’t land the top 6 from the position we were in and at least a cup final after getting SF’s against 2 non old-firm clubs.  It’s a shame that he’s not staying long enough to see what this season can deliver.  
 

I guess that’s the nature of it. Any of our players or managers going on to a bigger club will have done us a decent turn unlike plenty of wage thieves we’ve had over the years.

 

 

[pod]

1 minute ago, Rascal said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jim-goodwin-given-aberdeen-green-26267572
 

Jim Goodwin NOT at our Pre Match Press Conference

He's in Aberdeen. He can't be in two place at once. 

[Rascal]

Just now, pod said:

He's in Aberdeen. He can't be in two place at once. 

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/aberdeen-next-manager-latest-jim-26251928
 

Jack Ross still in the running for Aberdeen 

[Sweeper07]

1 hour ago, antrin said:

First inkling that I should take the hype seriously….  

Shaunessey's words give it away...

[Rascal]

2 minutes ago, Maboza said:

Disappointing to lose Goodie. As likeable and decent a manager that we’ll ever have and someone who really knows and loves the club.

Tough gig for him at Aberdeen but I genuinely wish him well and wouldn’t want him to fail. Got to respect his ambition to go to another level and earn a much higher salary for his family.
 

Just a shame that it’s coming about on such a good run of form. It would have been good to see if he could’ve delivered top 6 for us.
 

There’s a bit of this that is him leaving while his stock is high, rather than some of the long lows we’ve tolerated without being under any major pressure. 

Credit deserved where it’s due for stabilising and improving SMFC.  Football and tactics weren’t great for spells and was never the most open and expansive football, but his league position last year is the standout in our recent history. Slight disappointment that he didn’t land the top 6 from the position we were in and at least a cup final after getting SF’s against 2 non old-firm clubs.  It’s a shame that he’s not staying long enough to see what this season can deliver.  
 

I guess that’s the nature of it. Any of our players or managers going on to a bigger club will have done us a decent turn unlike plenty of wage thieves we’ve had over the years.

 

 

He’s not gone yet? Is he?

[Sweeper07]

5 minutes ago, Rascal said:

He’s not gone yet? Is he?

Watch for the photo and announcement... it's just when... likely to be today though...

[Rascal]

Just now, Sweeper07 said:

Watch for the photo and announcement... it's just when... likely to be today though...

Will do Sweeper.

Can we expect to see his replacement?