alanb Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Maboza said: I generally think the Joma quality is okay to be honest. I know there was some problems with badges previously but generally been ok. This year is a bit of a shambles not of Joma’s making it would seem. Comparison to adidas btw ... they are £65 for an official adidas kit vs £45 for a Saints top. Not sure if the DIY adidas kits like Hamilton get would be closer to the £45 mark, and whether those versions would have the desired quality and be profitable. No idea. Probably depends on who the club is and their marketing strength Castore brand Newcastle Utd hoodies for £165 a prime example Idiotic prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: The problem with you, well one of them, is you are unable to form any balanced opinion. You swallow whatever the club spits out, irrespective of what it means to supporters who have poured their hard earned cash into the club for decades, writing them off as irrelevant moaners. You justify your lack of ability to see things for what hey are, and certainly from other peoples perspective, by smugly taking the "higher ground" of being positive. TBH your opinion counts for the square root of feck all. - I can certainly understand the frustration this summer, as I can with other points in the past. - That doesn’t mean I buy into the club being on fire which you’d think from reading some peoples comments on here over the years. - No time have I ever been smug or taken higher ground by being positive. The very fact that comes to the minds of some because a fan is positive, shows the problem is completely and utterly their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 - I can certainly understand the frustration this summer, as I can with other points in the past. - That doesn’t mean I buy into the club being on fire which you’d think from reading some peoples comments on here over the years. - No time have I ever been smug or taken higher ground by being positive. The very fact that comes to the minds of some because a fan is positive, shows the problem is completely and utterly their own. Like when you just ask questions?Never loaded! [emoji850] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Maboza said: I generally think the Joma quality is okay to be honest. I know there was some problems with badges previously but generally been ok. This year is a bit of a shambles not of Joma’s making it would seem. Comparison to adidas btw ... they are £65 for an official adidas kit vs £45 for a Saints top. Not sure if the DIY adidas kits like Hamilton get would be closer to the £45 mark, and whether those versions would have the desired quality and be profitable. No idea. Full adidas kit for a child is 45. Top shorts and socks. Granted the adults are 65 but the quality of material and style Make it worth every penny in my book. Joma is ok but it is not great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 hours ago, bazil85 said: - I can certainly understand the frustration this summer, as I can with other points in the past. - That doesn’t mean I buy into the club being on fire which you’d think from reading some peoples comments on here over the years. - No time have I ever been smug or taken higher ground by being positive. The very fact that comes to the minds of some because a fan is positive, shows the problem is completely and utterly their own. This tactic of exaggerating, "the club being on fire", to diminish the real, and disappointing, issues, is well used and frankly another sign you don't take the recent problems seriously. As for your last sentences, confirms your attitude that you are right and everyone else who disagrees has a problem. This is my 3rd, and last, response to you on this issue, I'm not getting drawn into a never ending waste of time with you, you are, simply, not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, faraway saint said: This tactic of exaggerating, "the club being on fire", to diminish the real, and disappointing, issues, is well used and frankly another sign you don't take the recent problems seriously. As for your last sentences, confirms your attitude that you are right and everyone else who disagrees has a problem. This is my 3rd, and last, response to you on this issue, I'm not getting drawn into a never ending waste of time with you, you are, simply, not worth it. The guys a clown, your better off ignoring him. Its ok a bit of debate but he's boring as f**k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 hours ago, faraway saint said: This tactic of exaggerating, "the club being on fire", to diminish the real, and disappointing, issues, is well used and frankly another sign you don't take the recent problems seriously. As for your last sentences, confirms your attitude that you are right and everyone else who disagrees has a problem. This is my 3rd, and last, response to you on this issue, I'm not getting drawn into a never ending waste of time with you, you are, simply, not worth it. Saying I can see why they've been frustrating is plenty, I do not need to nor will I adhere to the sheer negativity from some on here for whom St Mirren can do no right. Nope, it's matter of opinion, this isn't about the topics for me, it's about how some people consistently react to practically anything that happens at the club. I again understand peoples frustration and they have every right to be given what's happened. We can note this one down to you yet again not understanding the point. This post highlights it's in fact you that needs to be right and doesn't like people disagreeing with you. Again I fully accept people's opinions on the running of the club, I'm referencing the negativity on here. We could both have saved a lot of time if we just started with this, it's well documented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, BuddieinEK said: Like when you just ask questions? Never loaded! Again you show your double standards in my post. Pedantic, obsessed and upset you just can't get over it can you? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Again you show your double standards in my post. Pedantic, obsessed and upset you just can't get over it can you? lol. "- No time have I ever been smug or taken higher ground by being positive." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosport Buddie Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Received this reply from Provan sports this morning. Pity I'd already been to the Post Office!!!! "Please accept our apologies. We will send these back to the printer for investigation. I have also attached a returns label. If you print out and attach to the package. You can drop off at any post office and you won’t be charged. In addition, I will send you a discount code for your next purchase by way of apology and for your time wasted." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Imho “Fabricating a problem” should be left to shirt producers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 32 minutes ago, BuddieinEK said: "- No time have I ever been smug or taken higher ground by being positive." Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brilliant Disguise Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, Gosport Buddie said: Received this reply from Provan sports this morning. Pity I'd already been to the Post Office!!!! "Please accept our apologies. We will send these back to the printer for investigation. I have also attached a returns label. If you print out and attach to the package. You can drop off at any post office and you won’t be charged. In addition, I will send you a discount code for your next purchase by way of apology and for your time wasted." See that’s how a business engages properly with their customers. Engagement, acceptance of the issue (even though its not their issue that is being questioned) and a token gesture for the inconvenience. That statement makes you want to go back. Not a statement that paraphrases stop moaning, it’s no our fault, a big boy did it and ran away, give us your money and please accept our mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Received this reply from Provan sports this morning. Pity I'd already been to the Post Office!!!! "Please accept our apologies. We will send these back to the printer for investigation. I have also attached a returns label. If you print out and attach to the package. You can drop off at any post office and you won’t be charged. In addition, I will send you a discount code for your next purchase by way of apology and for your time wasted."Who did you contact? I emailed the address from the order email = [email protected] and I have received nothing. I'd like to get a replacement maybe in the size down as this one is huge next to my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gosport Buddie Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said: 1 hour ago, Gosport Buddie said: Received this reply from Provan sports this morning. Pity I'd already been to the Post Office!!!! "Please accept our apologies. We will send these back to the printer for investigation. I have also attached a returns label. If you print out and attach to the package. You can drop off at any post office and you won’t be charged. In addition, I will send you a discount code for your next purchase by way of apology and for your time wasted." Who did you contact? I emailed the address from the order email = [email protected] and I have received nothing. I'd like to get a replacement maybe in the size down as this one is huge next to my son. That's the email I used, yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think a question that remains to be answered is, will it only be the batch that the club currently have onsale that will have the overprint, with future bulk orders to the manufacturers, produced minus sky view? I really don't know how this sort of things works. It's the best looking strip we have had in years as well which adds to the disappointment, as I am reluctant to buy until the above is clarified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Monster Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I think a question that remains to be answered is, will it only be the batch that the club currently have onsale that will have the overprint, with future bulk orders to the manufacturers, produced minus sky view? I really don't know how this sort of things works. It's the best looking strip we have had in years as well which adds to the disappointment, as I am reluctant to buy until the above is clarified.If there was only someone you could ask.SLO, CEO, CM, ETC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 4:14 PM, bazil85 said: That also extends to anything else regarding the club. This sums up Bazil's attitude. The club can do no wrong. You're all just moaning gits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, saint in exile said: This sums up Bazil's attitude. The club can do no wrong. You're all just moaning gits. I’ve pointed out why this is wrong several times. I completely understand why people are frustrated at different aspects of the club. It’s the overwhelming negativity that goes along with it I’m commenting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I’ve pointed out why this is wrong several times. I completely understand why people are frustrated at different aspects of the club. It’s the overwhelming negativity that goes along with it I’m commenting on. Whereas your overwhelming negativity about people choosing to express an opinion which differs from you is different?Just like when you simply ask questions whilst by default being abusive!Not negative at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 minute ago, BuddieinEK said: Whereas your overwhelming negativity about people choosing to express an opinion which differs from you is different? Just like when you simply ask questions whilst by default being abusive! Not negative at all! People can express any opinion they like, I can also express an opinion on how negative they are being & if it’s a common theme in their posts. I am not & never have been abusive on here. You’ve said this before & always failed to point out an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 I got a call today. Seems the marks on the sponsor logo come from the packing. They can sort it out in store or will replace. They said the hold up with the the shirt printing with names and numbers is it was a last minute change to red on the home top and they have had to order these in. Will be in the store in a couple weeks. Hopefully for the fakes game. Said if it's busy they will let you pick up tops after the game all newly printed. They said the issue was they could have gone and ordered a new batch with the new sponsor built into the top. This would have cost the club more money and they would then look to try get this back from Skyview, which we know wouldn't happen... Or they went with the current stuck on option to prevent further delay to fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, Mainstand Sweary Mob said: I got a call today. Seems the marks on the sponsor logo come from the packing. They can sort it out in store or will replace. They said the hold up with the the shirt printing with names and numbers is it was a last minute change to red on the home top and they have had to order these in. Will be in the store in a couple weeks. Hopefully for the fakes game. Said if it's busy they will let you pick up tops after the game all newly printed. They said the issue was they could have gone and ordered a new batch with the new sponsor built into the top. This would have cost the club more money and they would then look to try get this back from Skyview, which we know wouldn't happen... Or they went with the current stuck on option to prevent further delay to fans. So fans are expected to pay for inferior goods to prevent the club "losing money"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 Why don’t the club try to get sponsorship from Duck Tape ? Will make it so much easier to cover the current sponsor when it goes tits up again .😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted August 18, 2021 Report Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Callum Gilhooley said: Why don’t the club try to get sponsorship from Duck Tape ? Will make it so much easier to cover the current sponsor when it goes tits up again .😂 Your quackers, Callum! it’s Duct tape…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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