shull Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Talks have taken place between us and Hearts regarding Steven. More to follow. Quote
buddiecat Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) Kibble connection, bad. David is his dad. Edited February 20, 2022 by buddiecat Quote
buddiecat Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Another guy who has no managerial experience, no thanks. Quote
waldorf34 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, buddiecat said: Kibble connection, bad. David is his dad. Maybe if he is in Kibble will part with some of their £3million under spend from last financial year Quote
buddiecat Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, waldorf34 said: Maybe if he is in Kibble will part with some of their £3million under spend from last financial year Just now, waldorf34 said: Maybe if he is in Kibble will part with some of their £3million under spend from last financial year You know as well as I do that they will not and probably cannot use their funds in that way. Quote
antrin Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Naismith seems to me to be a good shout for the Saints job. Steve Clarke is happy to use his coaching skill, as is Hearts. He appears to be pretty sharp, as well as decent. Quote
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 If we went this route do you think he could get best out of Greive? Would he be able to spot good attacking player for our budget? I found with Jim he was good at spotting defenders and central midfielders, but could be very hit or miss with with attackers. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Quote
JJ McG Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, buddiecat said: Another guy who has no managerial experience, no thanks. Hearts fans are shouting for Naismith to be their manager, he’s highly rated and in the Scotland set up, the guy is a winner as well. Would be a decent appointment if you ask me. Quote
aldo_j Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, buddiecat said: Kibble connection, bad. David is his dad. His dad works in a large organisation that owns part of our club. You actually think that’s the reason he’ll be manager, and nothing to do with his credentials. c’mon tae f**k. Quote
LargsBud Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, antrin said: Naismith seems to me to be a good shout for the Saints job. Steve Clarke is happy to use his coaching skill, as is Hearts. He appears to be pretty sharp, as well as decent. It's not a coach we are looking for though. It's a manager. Two completely different jobs with little to no transferable skills between them. Quote
faraway saint Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, LargsBud said: It's not a coach we are looking for though. It's a manager. Two completely different jobs with little to no transferable skills between them. Are they that different? Many, let's say, people, who are in charge of football teams are called coach. Title's not that critical, how to motivate the players and get them in the best positions to function as a team. Come to think of it, I could do it. Quote
Callum Gilhooley Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, LargsBud said: It's not a coach we are looking for though. It's a manager. Two completely different jobs with little to no transferable skills between them. You don’t know what his role and input is with Scotland , don’t think anyone on here does . And I would say there are many qualities shared by both roles. Do I want him as our first team coach or manager ? I really Don’t know 🤷♂️ One thing I will say , IF he is chosen , he should get the full support of all Saints fans while in the job …. Regardless of who his Dad is. Quote
LargsBud Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, faraway saint said: Are they that different? Many, let's say, people, who are in charge of football teams are called coach. Title's not that critical, how to motivate the players and get them in the best positions to function as a team. Come to think of it, I could do it. I just feel that the key skills to be a good manager would be leadership, tactical awareness, handling with the press/fans/board, transfer market dealings etc. None of these are really required to be a good coach. We've seen many people who are supposedly great coaches fail miserably as manager. A lot of the top managers don't take anything to do with the coaching drills. Quote
antrin Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 I suggest that as you coach and organise folk, you’re learning management skills i read somewhere about Levein seeing him as - a coach at Hearts in expectation he’d one day be manager. (not that I had any love for Levein’s management practice!) Quote
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 I just feel that the key skills to be a good manager would be leadership, tactical awareness, handling with the press/fans/board, transfer market dealings etc. None of these are really required to be a good coach. We've seen many people who are supposedly great coaches fail miserably as manager. A lot of the top managers don't take anything to do with the coaching drills. Craig was supposed to be a good coach... Shite manager though. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Quote
antrin Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said: Craig was supposed to be a good coach... Shite manager though. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk True. True. Cannae argue with that. From other things I read about Naismith, I feel inclined to view him as being better than Craig. Much better. And younger, developing and still learning. Quote
Mainstand Sweary Mob Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 True. True. Cannae argue with that. From other things I read about Naismith, I feel inclined to view him as being better than Craig. Much better. And younger, developing and still learning.That's why I have contradictory feelings. I think they could be good guys as coaches, but I feel if we want to cement being a mid table team, pushing for top 6, then with the momentum we currently have we need someone with experience at management and someone with decent contacts, as we will need it to progress and go into next season losing a fair few starters from the team. Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk Quote
portmahomack saint Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 After the initial WTF same as the Scott Brown rumour, it sort of grows on you after a while, like brown he wasn't scared to put himself about on the park and his demeanour off it he comes across as a really nice guy. Both would be a big gamble a road i don't think we should be going down where we are at now I'd still prefer Jack Ross or Derek McInnes as we know what were getting Quote
waldorf34 Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 I would go for steady management , Tommy Wright Quote
linwood buddie Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 Jack Ross or Strachan for me , Brown or Naismith would be gambles but I suppose most young managers need to start somewhere . Quote
portmahomack saint Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 1 minute ago, waldorf34 said: I would go for steady management , Tommy Wright You serious' He got Relegated with Kimarnock. got gubbed of a shite team in the playoff. and got sacked when they were sitting 5th in the Championship. Quote
pod Posted February 20, 2022 Report Posted February 20, 2022 2 hours ago, antrin said: True. True. Cannae argue with that. From other things I read about Naismith, I feel inclined to view him as being better than Craig. Much better. And younger, developing and still learning. and not looking to top up his pension. Quote
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