Speculation Thread

[pod 6,717]

9 hours ago, windae cleaner said:

Dundee in for him as well

Can we sign someone that Dundee doesn't  want.............. we've already done that one.

Edited August 30, 2018 by pod

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

In the press today mostly to wish Craig Leven a quick recovery. Martin of Hearts a possibility.  He said we need a striker and some experience players. tick tick not much time to get that sorted. 

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

2 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Quite an odd thing to say you need to move players on before anyone else can come in when you very publicly offered Kenny Miller a deal two days before that he knocked back.

Did that money just disappear into a dark void never to be seen again? Or have the board actually realised that there is no point in giving Stubbs any more budget and withdrawn the funds as he's already proven himself not to be up to the standard to be trusted with one? 

Either way, not a strong statement to come away with in the same week we courted a guy who would have cost a decent wedge. Doesn't paint anyone in a positive light as either Stubbs is talking shite in order to soften the blow of moving yet more bodies in, the board has removed funding or both. 

If i may be so bold?

I think (certainly not ITK, so it probably actually has more legs given the pish that everyone could find another club) what Stubbzo and the club are getting at is the likes of Miller was a 'no fee' signing as he had been released, but the target or targets in Stubbzo's sights now that is deid will require a fee to be paid, and thats where PERHAPS... someone like Livi coming in to buy Say Cammy Smith would enable Stubbzo to go buy a free scoring centre forward..?

just speculating, but it would make their comments make some sense if it were so.

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

11 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

If i may be so bold?

I think (certainly not ITK, so it probably actually has more legs given the pish that everyone could find another club) what Stubbzo and the club are getting at is the likes of Miller was a 'no fee' signing as he had been released, but the target or targets in Stubbzo's sights now that is deid will require a fee to be paid, and thats where PERHAPS... someone like Livi coming in to buy Say Cammy Smith would enable Stubbzo to go buy a free scoring centre forward..?

just speculating, but it would make their comments make some sense if it were so.

Cammy and Stephen are not for sale that came from J.J. who is 100% right with his info.  

[munoz 7,553]

7 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Cammy and Stephen are not for sale that came from J.J. who is 100% right with his info.  

All our players are for sale at the right price. 

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

7 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Cammy and Stephen are not for sale that came from J.J. who is 100% right with his info.  

Was he 100% right last week when commenting that at least one of them was? Somebody needs to make their mind up what pish they are quoting at any given time.

[Drew 21,116]

7 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Cammy and Stephen are not for sale that came from J.J. who is 100% right with his info.  

Strictly speaking, every player at every club is for sale.

I assume JJ has reason to believe that McGinn and Smith are unlikely to leave before Saturday, which is some comfort amidst the malaise that seems to have settled over the club of late.

 

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

What would be more worrying given the club have pocketed £2million in unplanned income is if the manager had to free up wages by selling/getting some out on loan from an already small squad, in order to get some in!

we are already wafer thin with the injury list, a ban or other injury would catastrophic.

[pod 6,717]

1 minute ago, Drew said:

Strictly speaking, every player at every club is for sale.

I assume JJ has reason to believe that McGinn and Smith are unlikely to leave before Saturday, which is some comfort amidst the malaise that seems to have settled over the club of late.

 

They've "kissed and make up".   

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

20 minutes ago, Drew said:

Strictly speaking, every player at every club is for sale.

I assume JJ has reason to believe that McGinn and Smith are unlikely to leave before Saturday, which is some comfort amidst the malaise that seems to have settled over the club of late.

 

Yes Drew every player has a price who is going to pay top dollar for any of the two ? I can't see it Scottish football is skint unless it's the evil sisters looking for a bargain. This window has been a shambles Stubbs does not even know how to set up what he has got. 

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

21 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

What would be more worrying given the club have pocketed £2million in unplanned income is if the manager had to free up wages by selling/getting some out on loan from an already small squad, in order to get some in!

we are already wafer thin with the injury list, a ban or other injury would catastrophic.

2 million makes me laugh looking forward to accounts being published. That sum may have come in but for sure sum would have to be spent on various running of the club costs with some hopefully for Goodwin to put right in the January window 

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

1 minute ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

2 million makes me laugh looking forward to accounts being published. That sum may have come in but for sure sum would have to be spent on various running of the club costs with some hopefully for Goodwin to put right in the January window 

Errr that money came in as 'unplanned income' i.e. Not something that could be spent in advance as no one knew it was coming. So if iits been spent what has the Extra £2million gone on? Feck me the club are still rifling smisa's ringfenced funds too!

[Drew 21,116]

16 minutes ago, pod said:

They've "kissed and make up".   

I genuinely hope so.

Toxic division within the club, regardless of who is most culpable, is a very bad thing.

If the BoD have to knock heids together, that is what they should be doing. It won't solve the underlying problems, but it could arrest further unnecessary decline.

[faraway saint 28,609]

7 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

2 million makes me laugh looking forward to accounts being published. That sum may have come in but for sure sum would have to be spent on various running of the club costs with some hopefully for Goodwin to put right in the January window 

Goodwin, the same Goodwin who is in charge of a team 2nd bottom of the Championship, with 1 point?

Surely the Alloa support will be like ours, wanting him out? 

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

2 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

Errr that money came in as 'unplanned income' i.e. Not something that could be spent in advance as no one knew it was coming. So if iits been spent what has the Extra £2million gone on? Feck me the club are still rifling smisa's ringfenced funds too!

Aye the mafia have taken over the club. As I wrote accounts will reveal all until you have a right to speculation. Me in all honestly I'm worried our signings bar maybe two are very worrying.  

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

1 minute ago, faraway saint said:

Goodwin, the same Goodwin who is in charge of a team 2nd bottom of the Championship, with 1 point?

Surely the Alloa support will be like ours, wanting him out? 

Yes a point at ICT with 10 men was a shocker for a part time team. 

[faraway saint 28,609]

1 minute ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Yes a point at ICT with 10 men was a shocker for a part time team. 

What about zero points in the other 2 games with 11 men? 

[Drew 21,116]

16 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

What about zero points in the other 2 games with 11 men? 

I think you have to bear in mind their p/t status, and also factor in JG's achievement in promoting them.

 

 

[faraway saint 28,609]

3 minutes ago, Drew said:

I think you have to bear in mind their p/t status, and also factor in JG's achievement in promoting them.

 

 

Not denying that, just stating the facts and the irony of people wanting our manager sacked and Goodwin is a hero after the same amount of league games. 

PS I Like Goodwin, always have. 

Edited August 30, 2018 by faraway saint

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

27 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Aye the mafia have taken over the club. As I wrote accounts will reveal all until you have a right to speculation. Me in all honestly I'm worried our signings bar maybe two are very worrying.  

The mafia..! Whit the f**k are you on about?

i am concerned that having seen an extra £2m in, the manager is having to sign loanees, non league players and still has to ship some out before shoring up a threadbare squad. Everyone with a stake in the club should be concerned by that, and the fact that all our experienced targets are signing elsewhere!

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

3 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

The mafia..! Whit the f**k are you on about?

i am concerned that having seen an extra £2m in, the manager is having to sign loanees, non league players and still has to ship some out before shoring up a threadbare squad. Everyone with a stake in the club should be concerned by that, and the fact that all our experienced targets are signing elsewhere!

Pointed out the accounts will be published , you know the ( facts ) As I wrote everyone can speculate till there published.  

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,954]

16 minutes ago, faraway saint said:

Not denying that, just stating the facts and the irony of people wanting our manager sacked and Goodwin is a hero after the same amount of league games. 

PS I Like Goodwin, always have. 

On a serious note the majority wanted Stubbs to succeed maybe he can pull a few rabbit's out the hat at this late hour but its not looking too good. The fact he finds it hard to set up a team has my àlarm bells ringing. Hope I'm wrong but can't see him lasting beyond October.  Seen the same thing in recent years all too often there is a simlour pattern. 

Edited August 30, 2018 by Isle Of Bute Saint

[Lord Pityme 6,722]

4 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

Pointed out the accounts will be published , you know the ( facts ) As I wrote everyone can speculate till there published.  

We know now the money thats come in, i dont think anyone is disputing the figures? What we dont know is why we seem to have nothing other than the £75k for Heaton, (which we got back for Stewart) to help the manager build a squad fit for the premiership.

we seem to only be able to attract non-league/academy/loanees... all the experienced targets are signing elsewhere..! Wake up and smell the coffee big man... we are obviously not meeting/matching expectations of players at this level.

[pod 6,717]

8 minutes ago, Lord Pityme said:

We know now the money thats come in, i dont think anyone is disputing the figures? What we dont know is why we seem to have nothing other than the £75k for Heaton, (which we got back for Stewart) to help the manager build a squad fit for the premiership.

we seem to only be able to attract non-league/academy/loanees... all the experienced targets are signing elsewhere..! Wake up and smell the coffee big man... we are obviously not meeting/matching expectations of players at this level.

As we stand, would happily of kept Stewart (striker)  

[Drew 21,116]

24 minutes ago, pod said:

As we stand, would happily of kept Stewart (striker)  

Aye, was saying as much on Saturday. Looks a better option than NBM (albeit it is probably not fair to judge the latter so soon).

At the very least, having Stewart would have been another option in that area. As things stand, we are woefully under-resourced in the forward area.