Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Funny that, the groundsman tells the media the USH was off, so the snow wasnt melting, but the usual suspects want (a bit like the snow) to sweep away the real reason we had the farcical situation of a match being cancelled when everyone was in the stadium. Whatever happened to all those calls for transparency? Or do some only want the facts to be known when it suits..... The only way to stop this horrendous series of cock ups by the club is to have transperency, and the opportunity to question, hold to account and learn, otherwise (the current state of affairs) the support is doomed to suffer the continuing clusterf**k of a decision making process that envelops the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Funny that, the groundsman tells the media the USH was off, so the snow wasnt melting, but the usual suspects want (a bit like the snow) to sweep away the real reason we had the farcical situation of a match being cancelled when everyone was in the stadium. Whatever happened to all those calls for transparency? Or do some only want the facts to be known when it suits..... The only way to stop this horrendous series of cock ups by the club is to have transperency, and the opportunity to question, hold to account and learn, otherwise (the current state of affairs) the support is doomed to suffer the continuing clusterf**k of a decision making process that envelops the club. Undersoil heating! The clue is in the name. It is used to prevent frost, and, therefore, a frozen pitch, NOT to melt fresh and ongoing snowfall. Covers can help with this, but might present a minor issue during the match.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Does anyone know if you get website reward points once you reach ten arseholes set to ignore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Undersoil heating! The clue is in the name. It is used to prevent frost, and, therefore, a frozen pitch, NOT to melt fresh and ongoing snowfall. Covers can help with this, but might present a minor issue during the match.... Ah! Thats how they started and finished the match at Ibrox and Firhill, they played over/under the covers.... This thread of denial has given me a right good laugh, unfortunately it doesn't make up for the time, money and effort put in by over 2000 people to get into a stadium, only for the game to be cancelled because the club sought to save a few bob at the expense of 2000 odd paying customers. Clusterf**k.... Seems too small a word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Don't think someone slept very well over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 The pitch inspection reports on twitter/facebook stated certain areas of the pitch were still frozen. The club chairman was quoted on the BBC website stating players could not get their studs into the ground... Were they all in on this conspiracy? Or more likely the USH was off. To enable things to move on and ditch the petty squabling, would it be reasonable to suggest that the USH was turned off too early? It worked at Ibrox And Firhill, but not at ours! I was there standing behind the dugout between 2.40 and 3pm. No matter how hard the guys with shovels tried they could not keep the lines visible. With no lines clearly visible how can anyone expect a game on. It would have been a farce to start the game. I would assume undersoil heating is there to keep the soil from freezing and not to melt snow flakes instantly as they settle on top of the grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I was there standing behind the dugout between 2.40 and 3pm. No matter how hard the guys with shovels tried they could not keep the lines visible. With no lines clearly visible how can anyone expect a game on. It would have been a farce to start the game. I would assume undersoil heating is there to keep the soil from freezing and not to melt snow flakes instantly as they settle on top of the grass. So how did it work at Ibrox, and Firhill of all places? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Lord Pityme is right to criticise the club for ignoring their customers and for looking after their own short term financial gain. However he's going the wrong way about it. The undersoil heating shouldn't be used. It should be switched off. The enforcement of the installation of undersoil heating by the old SPL was never about putting customer interests first. How could it be when it's intention is to keep matches on when the weather in inclement and not conducive to an afternoon of sitting on a plastic seat in a stadium where a light wind would be all it would take to ensure all seats are at risk of a good soaking. It was about protectionism and trying to keep the league for the elite few who "deserved a place" regardless of footballing merit. This match SHOULD have been postponed much earlier than it was. There should have been no call for volunteers. The pitch should simply have been presented to the referee for the first inspection as frost and snow bound. Had this been done it would have spared customers from making a hazardous and ultimately fruitless journey. St Mirren should do the right thing and offer either to pay for buses for Raith Rovers fans wishing to go to Paisley for the attempt at playing the fixture again, or they should offer heavily discounted admission for the fixture with some sort of recompense offered to those with season ticket cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Oh dear... Looks likeva few bubbles are about to be burst.... Quote from EPL groundsman in 2007 using much older, less efficient USH than is installed at twenty one minutes past eight arena. However I have had 2 occasions in the last 13 years where the snow has not been melted by the system, but both times the air temperatures were around -10 to -12 degrees and there seemed to be an impasse above the surface. Dont think it was anywhere near -10 to -12 on Saturday or like other pitches the snow would have been melted. I guess the fact it can cost £2500 to £3500 to run the system for 24 hours was what stopped the snow from melting? But it cost a lot more than that in the end! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Don't think someone slept very well over the weekend. NHS cutbacks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 So how did it work at Ibrox, and Firhill of all places? They were not under the cloud that we were under. Or do think when it snows in one part of Scotland it must be snowing to the same degree 6 miles away? Have you never seen a rain cloud bursting in the distance when you are not experiencing the rain? The stupidity on here is unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 They were not under the cloud that we were under. Or do think when it snows in one part of Scotland it must be snowing to the same degree 6 miles away? Have you never seen a rain cloud bursting in the distance when you are not experiencing the rain? The stupidity on here is unlimited. I think you mean the denial on here is risible. A quick look at highlights on the BBC highlights shows the same conditions and amountbif snow at both Ibrox and Firhill, in fact it looked like they got more at Firhill. But byball means continue with the denial.. So far we have had... It was the Ref's fault It was unpredicted snow The USH can't melt snow The USH was on The pitch was in tip top condition All of which have been shown to be wrong. look forward to reading the next claim of denial for a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 They were not under the cloud that we were under. Or do think when it snows in one part of Scotland it must be snowing to the same degree 6 miles away? Have you never seen a rain cloud bursting in the distance when you are not experiencing the rain? The stupidity on here is unlimited. You'd be better off visiting Edinburgh Zoo and reasoning with a couple of primates. At least they would be capable of coherent thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 You'd be better off visiting Edinburgh Zoo and reasoning with a couple of primates. At least they would be capable of coherent thought. You have to take your hat off to him though. The time he invests in this continual stream of shite is impressive. How he fits all this in around the rest of his life I jus..........oh, hang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudtobeabuddy Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 My god i was a little annoyed on Saturday at how late the game was called off but i can't believe there are 17 pages worth!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I took this photo from on the pitch on Saturday. Time stamp is 1339. This was after a couple of hours snow on Sat morning, and two consecutive nights of sub zero temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 ImageUploadedByBlack & White Army1453241014.231873.jpg I took this photo from on the pitch on Saturday. Time stamp is 1339. This was after a couple of hours snow on Sat morning, and two consecutive nights of sub zero temperatures. And after one hundred volunteers swept the snow off! Thought you would have given all the volunteers like your self a nod? Like Tommy told Chic, the USH was aff, thats why the snow lay on it after two oclock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidg Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Like Tommy told Chic, the USH was aff, thats why the snow lay on it after two oclock.Why did the snow lay on the Ibrox park last season when their match against Hearts was abandoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 And after one hundred volunteers swept the snow off! Thought you would have given all the volunteers like your self a nod? Like Tommy told Chic, the USH was aff, thats why the snow lay on it after two oclock. How did it pass a 1045 inspection if the heating wasn't on overnight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Pityme Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 How did it pass a 1045 inspection if the heating wasn't on overnight? Why did Tommy tell Chick it was aff? Life's mysteries eh.. Tch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I'm assuming it had to be on. If not pitch would have been solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Why did Tommy tell Chick it was aff? Life's mysteries eh.. Tch! Because the ref. tell him it was aff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
religion is saints Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I'm assuming it had to be on. If not pitch would have been solid.the chairman said the pitch was solid...who's lying? Sounds like all the halfwits who turned up to clear pitch are lying. Must have one hell of a life that all u have to do on a Saturday is clear snow off a frozen pitch to sit freezing watching a game of football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
religion is saints Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Why did Tommy tell Chick it was aff? Life's mysteries eh.. Tch! all the do-gooder halfwits say pitch was fine, groundsman says undersoil heating off and chairman says pitch solid but Div says pitch was great?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
religion is saints Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 How did it pass a 1045 inspection if the heating wasn't on overnight?parts of pitch were still frozen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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