Stu Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, mcdowell76 said: This 'summer of beath' stuff is a bit of a myth. For a start, we were a top flight club back then, so signing players from Cowdenbeath meant we were delving 2 divisions down. We signed 3 first team players from Cowdenbeath. One of them, Darren McGregor, was an absolutely fantastic player. Of the other 2, the Wardlaw signing was obviously dodgy from the start as the guy was in his 30s and had no higher league pedigree. That signing was doubted by most on these very forums. The other, McQuade, seemed to be signed as a squad player and turned out to be not very good. If we hadn't signed Gareth Wardlaw then I don't think signing League One players would be an issue! Its also worth remembering that we also signed a few other players that summer who did well, eg Samson, Van Zanten, Tavernier, McAusland, McGowan (and subsequently Goodwin). This time around we have signed 2 guys from just the league below us. One of them has banged in 17 goals this season. He's already played in the Championship. Had Rory Loy not scored at Easter Road we would have been facing Kirkpatrick in a play off. He was nominated for the team of the year. Ross Stewart has spent the past 2 seasons in said league. He had the 3rd best goals against record last season despite being in a side battling against relegation. He served his apprenticeship at top flight Motherwell and has international youth caps. Both these guys are young and have pedigree. The signing of Gareth Wardlaw should be forgotten! Must have missed us signing him 1 hour ago, Sonny said: Agree about urging caution. Jack has only signed two lower league players so far and has no past experience with Stewart as far as I can tell. I like that his signings are young and hungry for success - reminds me of Fergie's Furies And as an aside we actually paid a fee for the 4th signing from Cowdenbeath that summer - Peter Bradley - anyone remember him???? And we paid a fee for Mooy that season, never played him, and he is now worth a fortune. Signings are a gamble! Was it not Wardlaw we ended up paying a fee for? Lennon tried to sign him as he thought there was a loophole and he was still out of contract and I think we may have ended up paying a token sum for him. As HSS said, he scored the goal that secured our safety so while he couldn't be described as a success he did play an important role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, mcdowell76 said: Aye, forgot about Robertson. I'd discounted Bradley as he was a youth player. But, as I explained, the guys Jack Ross has signed have some pedigree and a track record and have come from only 1 division below us. If we were currently in the SPL and signing someone who had played for a side that had just failed in the play offs, eg Falkirk and a keeper from a mid table Championship side, I don't think we would be having this discussion? I agree with the points you make Just wanted to remind us all of how bad the Beath experience actually was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowell76 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, Stu said: As HSS said, he scored the goal that secured our safety so while he couldn't be described as a success he did play an important role. Aye, but if we'd signed someone half decent instead of Wardlaw in the first place then maybe we wouldn't have been in relegation trouble in the first place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 We did not pay a lot but we did pay a fee for Bradley. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/st_mirren/8769403.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 We have signed some gems from Cowden in the past John Dickson, Alan Combe and Mark Yardley spring to mind so it can be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 My son has Gareth Wardlaw's shirt from the win at Pittodrie where he scored the winner, hanging in a frame on his bedroom wall. I won't hear a bad word against him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
div Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 There's value to be had in the lower leagues. Andy Robertson went from Queens Park to the EPL inside 2 seasons and is now an international player. Darren McGregor hasn't done too badly for himself either. Blair Spittal another who has done well. Jack knows Kirkpatrick inside out, he obviously thinks he can get something there. The goalkeeper went down a level to get gametime, and now he's got his reward. I don't see any real risk here. We're chasing another League 1 player, a striker, but we're also courting two strikers who are with Premeirship clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Danny said: We have signed some gems from Cowden in the past John Dickson, Alan Combe and Mark Yardley spring to mind so it can be done! John Dickson was one of my boyhood favourites. A great wee talented player sadly no longer with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whydowebother Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Might not be the last league 1 signing and might not even be the last league 1 signing called Ross Stewart either! Need a new song if he/they do well ....There's only ..... 2 Ross Stewarts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Alan Combe What a shite goalie he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, shull said: Alan Combe What a shite goalie he was. Or u could sit on the fence !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: You can if you want but, for once, shull is right. Can I have that in big BOLD writing , Combe was only shit sometimes, there were many minutes he wasnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcdowell76 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Alan Combe was indeed shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said: Aye, he was great for a Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 position. Outwith they hours he was pretty bad. He had good hair though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougJamie Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Anyway I will tell my Cousin Alan what you think of him xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 hours ago, shull said: Alan Combe What a shite goalie he was. 1 hour ago, mcdowell76 said: Alan Combe was indeed shite 5 seasons, no bad for a shite goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, pod said: 5 seasons, no bad for a shite goalie. Always had gorgeous girlfriends as well if my memory of corporate hospitality is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 5 hours ago, div said: My son has Gareth Wardlaw's shirt from the win at Pittodrie where he scored the winner, hanging in a frame on his bedroom wall. I won't hear a bad word against him! Wardlaw was a trier. I liked his attitude and he contributed. I could name a ton of players who did neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, div said: There's value to be had in the lower leagues. Andy Robertson went from Queens Park to the EPL inside 2 seasons and is now an international player. Darren McGregor hasn't done too badly for himself either. Blair Spittal another who has done well. Jack knows Kirkpatrick inside out, he obviously thinks he can get something there. The goalkeeper went down a level to get gametime, and now he's got his reward. I don't see any real risk here. We're chasing another League 1 player, a striker, but we're also courting two strikers who are with Premeirship clubs. There is value in the lower leagues , we brought Frank McAvennie from Johnstone Burgh . . It might be a long time before we get another player from Keanie Park tho'. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul torfason Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 7 hours ago, div said: There's value to be had in the lower leagues. Andy Robertson went from Queens Park to the EPL inside 2 seasons and is now an international player. Darren McGregor hasn't done too badly for himself either. Blair Spittal another who has done well. Jack knows Kirkpatrick inside out, he obviously thinks he can get something there. The goalkeeper went down a level to get gametime, and now he's got his reward. I don't see any real risk here. We're chasing another League 1 player, a striker, but we're also courting two strikers who are with Premeirship clubs. so we not interested in Andy Ryan div?if we in for the other Stewart at Albion?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 hours ago, pozbaird said: Wardlaw was a trier. I liked his attitude and he contributed. I could name a ton of players who did neither. I actually thought Wardlaw was just starting to get up to speed with full time football towards the end of his time with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 10 hours ago, div said: There's value to be had in the lower leagues. Andy Robertson went from Queens Park to the EPL inside 2 seasons and is now an international player. Darren McGregor hasn't done too badly for himself either. Blair Spittal another who has done well. Jack knows Kirkpatrick inside out, he obviously thinks he can get something there. The goalkeeper went down a level to get gametime, and now he's got his reward. I don't see any real risk here. We're chasing another League 1 player, a striker, but we're also courting two strikers who are with Premeirship clubs. This is hugely exciting something special is being built at our club under the stewardship of a special manager. Reading our assistant manager update was really pleasing on how important it is to have our under 20 coach involved with the first team. I'm buzzing with all the building blocks Jack Ross has implemented have seen nothing like it before. Mr Ross will go far in the game you only have to listen to players who have played under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlucifer Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: This is hugely exciting something special is being built at our club under the stewardship of a special manager. Reading our assistant manager update was really pleasing on how important it is to have our under 20 coach involved with the first team. I'm buzzing with all the building blocks Jack Ross has implemented have seen nothing like it before. Mr Ross will go far in the game you only have to listen to players who have played under him. As his reputation grows, (if he is successful), so will the eagerness of players to join him in his quest. We've slid down the snake, now we may be climbing the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said: This is hugely exciting something special is being built at our club under the stewardship of a special manager. Reading our assistant manager update was really pleasing on how important it is to have our under 20 coach involved with the first team. I'm buzzing with all the building blocks Jack Ross has implemented have seen nothing like it before. Mr Ross will go far in the game you only have to listen to players who have played under him. Ross has breathed new life into our Club which had been flagging for sometime . I feel that as fans , we had come to accept mediocrity under previous managerial appointments. Jack Ross can inspire players and get the best from them and they obviously enjoy working with him , which would appear to be a rare commodity at our level since we have been waiting a long time to get the feel good factor back. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just realised we have signed a goalie who somehow managed to concede four goals to Alex Rae's St Mirren side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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