portmahomack saint Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 2/9/2021 at 7:17 PM, lugton said: Been informed, Shull has been banned for life. My imagination is in running wild here, Can you tell me what Shull did ? or say, that was worse than posting Katie Hopkins or Trump videos that got him a lifetime ban ? because I can't think of anything more grotesque or scandalous to merit such a severe punishment Shouldn't there be some sort of impeachment trial first before such a judgement is handed out. Is this a conviction without trial ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, portmahomack saint said: posting Katie Hopkins or Trump videos that got him a lifetime ban ? If I was 'responsible' for this website than that would have been more than sufficient. Bigger platforms than this have at last got round to sorting out the unfounded lies, distortions, racism and filth that pollute the online experience. And as for conviction without trial...? He'd been stuck in the wank tank a few times before, as a mild suggestion that his posting was less than suitable. I think that was perhaps a clue that - for him - the wank tank had not been a constructive learning experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 hours ago, antrin said: If I was 'responsible' for this website than that would have been more than sufficient. Bigger platforms than this have at last got round to sorting out the unfounded lies, distortions, racism and filth that pollute the online experience. And as for conviction without trial...? He'd been stuck in the wank tank a few times before, as a mild suggestion that his posting was less than suitable. I think that was perhaps a clue that - for him - the wank tank had not been a constructive learning experience. I think Mr Shull would have every right to take this to the European court of human rights... but unfortunately for him big Bojo. Katie (the mooth) hopkins. and Nigel (the asylum slayer) Farage took us out of the EU... that option is no longer available... He will now have to wait until indy 2 later this year before he can go down that route.. Welcome to the movement Shull 🏴 🏴 🏴 all is not lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted February 13, 2021 Report Share Posted February 13, 2021 3 hours ago, portmahomack saint said: I think Mr Shull would have every right to take this to the European court of human rights... but unfortunately for him big Bojo. Katie (the mooth) hopkins. and Nigel (the asylum slayer) Farage took us out of the EU... that option is no longer available... He will now have to wait until indy 2 later this year before he can go down that route.. Welcome to the movement Shull 🏴 🏴 🏴 all is not lost Oh it is. It really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted July 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted July 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Clammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted July 4, 2021 Report Share Posted July 4, 2021 Off his own "back", when it should be "bat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 Association football............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddiecat Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 “We need lightning to clear the air” no we don’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, buddiecat said: “We need lightning to clear the air” no we don’t. Indeed, it's thunder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 “We need lightning to clear the air” no we don’t.I've never heard that expression.I've heard people say we need a thunderstorm to clear the air.[emoji12] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smcc Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, faraway saint said: Indeed, it's thunder. Thunder is a direct result of lightning. 🌩️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, smcc said: Thunder is a direct result of lightning. 🌩️ Pretty sure that's not true but happy to be corrected. Both occur as part of the release of energy from the build up of massive charge differences in the atmosphere. Sound and light are emitted. Probably some heat too. Definitely a whole heap of chemical changes too including the formation of ozone. Our atmosphere is an amazing thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 Pretty sure that's not true but happy to be corrected. Both occur as part of the release of energy from the build up of massive charge differences in the atmosphere. Sound and light are emitted. Probably some heat too. Definitely a whole heap of chemical changes too including the formation of ozone. Our atmosphere is an amazing thing.Technically he's correct.As am I... I've never heard anyone use that expression. You also are correct... Tis a wonderment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Pretty sure that's not true but happy to be corrected. Both occur as part of the release of energy from the build up of massive charge differences in the atmosphere. Sound and light are emitted. Probably some heat too. Definitely a whole heap of chemical changes too including the formation of ozone. Our atmosphere is an amazing thing.It's not true ... sort of.The thunder comes from the rapidly expanding and collapsing air surrounding the lightning as it makes a path through it. The air expands due to the lightning but the noise comes from the air, not directly from the lightning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Technically he's correct.As am I... I've never heard anyone use that expression. You also are correct... Tis a wonderment. Aye, but I'm "more correct". [emoji16] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Slarti said: It's not true ... sort of. The thunder comes from the rapidly expanding and collapsing air surrounding the lightning as it makes a path through it. The air expands due to the lightning but the noise comes from the air, not directly from the lightning. It's not possible to have thunder without lightning. Therefore, one interpretation could be that thunder is the direct result of rapid expansion and heating of air caused by lightning. Although if you want to go further back, you could say that it's the ice crystals in a thunderstorm cloud colliding with each other that cause all of it................ Edited July 7, 2021 by FTOF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Slarti said: It's not true ... sort of. The thunder comes from the rapidly expanding and collapsing air surrounding the lightning as it makes a path through it. The air expands due to the lightning but the noise comes from the air, not directly from the lightning. Yes, presumably the air is being forced to move faster than the speed of sound. This isn't an area I have any expertise in at all really. I've done a tiny amount of atmospheric chemistry stuff so I know little bits about ozone and pollution and how things like lightning can provoke various reactions but that's it. I did read a nice wee book from the 50s which covered thunder and lightning amongst other things (including global warming which surprised me - didn't know they were even talking about it back then) but I've forgotten a lot of it. Edited July 7, 2021 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cumbriansaint72 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Footballs coming home🙄🙄🙄🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Slarti Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 It's not possible to have thunder without lightning. Therefore, one interpretation could be that thunder is the direct result of rapid expansion and heating of air caused by lightning. Although if you want to go further back, you could say that it's the ice crystals in a thunderstorm cloud colliding with each other that cause all of it................ Eh? Why not? I would think that there must be something else that could have the same effect on air and hence cause thunder. I'm not saying it's likely or I have any idea what it would be but to say it's not possible ...? (Edit: Apparently thunder can sometimes be heard when it's snowing with no lightning required. And also, apparently, you can sometimes get lightning without thunder.)Unless, of course, you are defining thunder in relation to lightning and not just the direct cause of the sound, as in "Thunder is the noise caused when lightning rapidly expands air" and not just "Thunder is the noise caused by rapidly expanding air". (Yes, I know neither of those are very good definitions but it's just to illustrate a point.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaksoft Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Slarti said: Eh? Why not? I would think that there must be something else that could have the same effect on air and hence cause thunder. I'm not saying it's likely or I have any idea what it would be but to say it's not possible ...? (Edit: Apparently thunder can sometimes be heard when it's snowing with no lightning required. And also, apparently, you can sometimes get lightning without thunder.) Unless, of course, you are defining thunder in relation to lightning and not just the direct cause of the sound, as in "Thunder is the noise caused when lightning rapidly expands air" and not just "Thunder is the noise caused by rapidly expanding air". (Yes, I know neither of those are very good definitions but it's just to illustrate a point.) Rather than some of us pretending we have the faintest idea how this all works because we've spent 5 minutes Googling it, here's a link to some people who you can be sure absolutely do know. https://www.nssl.noaa.gov/education/svrwx101/lightning/faq/ Looks like I was on the right tracks about the build up of a charge differential and then energy being subsequently released. The bit I forgot was about the dielectric (in this case the air) breakdown causing lightning although the mechanism behind that is perhaps not so clear. You then see thunder coming from the shock wave as the air tries to move above the speed of sound so you were right there. Most interestingly of all, it's the lightning channel which precipitates the thunder so @smcc was right all along. Between the 3 of us, we finally got there. And had an unusually interesting chat in the process. Well at least I was interesting. Least said about you..... Edited July 7, 2021 by oaksoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 19 hours ago, buddiecat said: “We need lightning to clear the air” no we don’t. See what you've started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 So, what did you think of that match Rio……????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 ....... and my co-commentator today will be Jermaine Jenas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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