stlucifer Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, antrin said: Sigh…. I didn’t post that. stay out of the sun. You’re not handling the heat very well. My apologies. You were just agreeing with the poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 What an embarrassing thread. 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albanian Buddy Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 Unless I’ve missed it according to the club official sources I’ve looked at just now no one apart from Dunne has signed recently. Those that want to bring politics and religion into sport can bring out the pitchforks and placards when the time is right. Maybe we will have another of those infamous walkouts (that a certain fan who later became the club DJ) organised years ago. How many joined him in that protest? Not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 7 hours ago, stlucifer said: My apologies. You were just agreeing with the poster. You’re STILL wrong. i didn’t simply agree… but I supported the poster’s wish to raise questions about morality… about the type of person we might wish to represent St Mirren, Paisley and the fans. Here you go again… same words, same post. read it slower this time… indeed, I particularly suggested that he shouldn’t be pilloried when no one knows his attitude towards the persecution of Palestinians. ”Many Israelis are appalled by the fascism, lack of democracy and oppression of Palestinians by their own forces. Let’s hope Stav is such an enlightened person.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 6 hours ago, faraway saint said: What an embarrassing thread. 👎 It was ok till you slithered in… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, antrin said: You’re STILL wrong. i didn’t simply agree… but I supported the poster’s wish to raise questions about morality… about the type of person we might wish to represent St Mirren, Paisley and the fans. Here you go again… same words, same post. read it slower this time… indeed, I particularly suggested that he shouldn’t be pilloried when no one knows his attitude towards the persecution of Palestinians. ”Many Israelis are appalled by the fascism, lack of democracy and oppression of Palestinians by their own forces. Let’s hope Stav is such an enlightened person.” I blame the Israelis mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 hours ago, antrin said: It was ok till you slithered in… No it wasn’t.. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmckinn Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Has he actually signed yet, not seen anything officially coming out of St Mirren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Hope to feck Mahmani doesn't read this forum. 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholmbud Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 Waiting on international clearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted June 25, 2023 Report Share Posted June 25, 2023 19 hours ago, faraway saint said: 🤣🤣🤣 16 hours ago, JJ McG said: Interesting articulate response to my post but unfortunately, I can't determine whether you support Israeli apartheid or not. There are many prominent football players who support Palestine including Mahrez, Pogba, Salah, Cantona, Mane and Ronaldo... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/17/from-uk-to-chile-footballers-signal-solidarity-with-palestinians#:~:text='Pray for Palestine'&text=Salah's Liverpool team-mate%2C Malian,to express solidarity with Palestinians. Israel has, periodically, denied exit visas to players of the Palestine national team to play in the World Cup... https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jul/11/an-oasis-of-hope-how-football-is-a-cause-for-optimism-in-palestine This issue is about boycotting Israel (and this Tory government is about to pass legislation banning local authorities from doing so) in order to force them to end their repression of a whole people. It had a major effect in ending South African apartheid and it will impact on Israel too in bring back basic human rights to the Palestinians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted June 26, 2023 Report Share Posted June 26, 2023 A journalist wouldn't have made the mistake of writing there instead of they're. [emoji848][emoji14]Fanny. Hope the spelling is OK [emoji106] Sent from my SM-S906B using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstbuddie Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 https://www.stmirren.com/all-news/5002-stav-nahmani-to-join-on-loan-subject-to-work-permit-and-clearance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted June 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Everyone happy now or still waiting for the scarf pic?Sent from my SM-G980F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Sonny said: Everyone happy now or still waiting for the scarf pic? Sent from my SM-G980F using Tapatalk I’d be happier if whoever started the thread could’ve spelled his name properly 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Welcome on board young man . 👍 I wish you great success . His flight has just arrived at Glasgow Airport ✈️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarti Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 Be a decent partnership with Main!!!!FFS, has he left already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 1:19 PM, Jockmd said: I am disappointed that the club has taken on loan a player from the apartheid state of Israel whose treatment of Palestinians is illegal under international law. Israel's brutality has been ignored and effectively supported by the West which displays their double standards when compared with Russia's invasion of Ukraine which is exactly similar to Israel's illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories which the main stream media barely mentions, in particular, the BBC. Within the context of football, FIFA and the UEFA have banned Russia's national team and league teams from playing in European and world competitions but allows Israel to participate despite their military repression and having one of the most racist clubs in the world, Beitar Jerusalem who the Israel FA allow them not to sign any Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel... https://www.haaretz.com/life/books/2022-07-04/ty-article/.premium/inside-beitar-jerusalem-one-of-the-most-racist-soccer-clubs-in-the-world/00000181-c8bc-d2c4-abdb-efbe34ab0000 Apart from the discrimination, Palestinian footballer players have been shot and killed by the IDF (Israeli army) with this incident ending young players' ambition... https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/palestinian-teenagers-shot-feet-by-israeli-soldiers-after-playing-football-calls-fifa-israel-ban-1439183 The accusation of Israel being an apartheid state has been reported by the world's leading human right NGOs, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch including the leading Israeli one, B'tselem who defines their own country as racist... https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid So, I don't know the opinion of Stav Mahmani but I hope its not similar to Nir Bitton who tweeted his praise of the IDF. On 6/24/2023 at 1:19 PM, Jockmd said: I am disappointed that the club has taken on loan a player from the apartheid state of Israel whose treatment of Palestinians is illegal under international law. Israel's brutality has been ignored and effectively supported by the West which displays their double standards when compared with Russia's invasion of Ukraine which is exactly similar to Israel's illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories which the main stream media barely mentions, in particular, the BBC. Within the context of football, FIFA and the UEFA have banned Russia's national team and league teams from playing in European and world competitions but allows Israel to participate despite their military repression and having one of the most racist clubs in the world, Beitar Jerusalem who the Israel FA allow them not to sign any Palestinian Arab citizens of Israel... https://www.haaretz.com/life/books/2022-07-04/ty-article/.premium/inside-beitar-jerusalem-one-of-the-most-racist-soccer-clubs-in-the-world/00000181-c8bc-d2c4-abdb-efbe34ab0000 Apart from the discrimination, Palestinian footballer players have been shot and killed by the IDF (Israeli army) with this incident ending young players' ambition... https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/palestinian-teenagers-shot-feet-by-israeli-soldiers-after-playing-football-calls-fifa-israel-ban-1439183 The accusation of Israel being an apartheid state has been reported by the world's leading human right NGOs, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch including the leading Israeli one, B'tselem who defines their own country as racist... https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid So, I don't know the opinion of Stav Mahmani but I hope its not similar to Nir Bitton who tweeted his praise of the IDF. exactly how is this post football related? there are more appropriate places to post your political viewpoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 On 6/24/2023 at 2:57 PM, antrin said: If it is ok to question the morality/wisdom of hiring players such as Goodwillie, Leigh Griffiths or our erstwhile own loveable headbanger - Paul McGowan, then I think there’s plenty space to ask similar questions about this lad. Many Israelis are appalled by the fascism, lack of democracy and oppression of Palestinians by their own forces. Let’s hope Stav is such an enlightened person. do you think many Palestinians were concerned about their children's schools being used as missile launching sites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antrin Posted June 29, 2023 Report Share Posted June 29, 2023 43 minutes ago, jaybee said: do you think many Palestinians were concerned about their children's schools being used as missile launching sites? Aye. I’m sure they were veryconcerned as they’re well aware of what the result always is… …they knew that their oppressors would strike back indiscriminately and disproportionately against children, hospitals, schools… yet claim that they are not being oppressive. And a huge proportion of Israelis would agree with that description of the Zionist military actions and would understand why the Palestinians continue their unequal struggle. I assume that you would disapprove of any small country (being oppressed by a larger, ten times more populous and richer nation) resorting to guerilla warfare and using whatever limited weapons came to hand. Like Scotland did in the 13th/14th century. I hope this helps? (At least my post that you quote was - unlike yours - Football related. You’ve fallen foul of the very standard you used to criticise Jockmd. And, as I’ve said above - more than once - I think there’s little value in judging the new lad, when we know so little about him.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 9 hours ago, jaybee said: exactly how is this post football related? there are more appropriate places to post your political viewpoints You've just raised a political objection. Football has never been up in an apolitical cloud. FIFA and UEFA has banned Russia from participating in competitions but allows Israel who has committed the same crimes and worse. Qatar was pilloried during the World Cup for their treatment of construction workers and the LGBT community. When nations play each other, nationalism is a prominent feature globally. Racism was recognised recently by players kneeling on the pitch. However, the demands to end it extends beyond football authorities and into parliament where anti-racist legislation is formulated. This is about the recognition of the way people are ill-treated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Welcome to the club Stav. We are a football club, just in case you thought otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 10 hours ago, jaybee said: do you think many Palestinians were concerned about their children's schools being used as missile launching sites? Can you imagine, even for one second, that they weren't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jockmd Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, jaybee said: do you think many Palestinians were concerned about their children's schools being used as missile launching sites? This was stated by Israel during their bombing of Gaza in 2014 when over 500 children were killed. There was no rocket attack from the West Bank but... https://www.nrc.no/news/2023/may/west-bank-israel-must-stop-demolition-of-palestinian-schools/ Edited June 30, 2023 by Jockmd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 17 hours ago, antrin said: Aye. I’m sure they were veryconcerned as they’re well aware of what the result always is… …they knew that their oppressors would strike back indiscriminately and disproportionately against children, hospitals, schools… yet claim that they are not being oppressive. And a huge proportion of Israelis would agree with that description of the Zionist military actions and would understand why the Palestinians continue their unequal struggle. I assume that you would disapprove of any small country (being oppressed by a larger, ten times more populous and richer nation) resorting to guerilla warfare and using whatever limited weapons came to hand. Like Scotland did in the 13th/14th century. I hope this helps? (At least my post that you quote was - unlike yours - Football related. You’ve fallen foul of the very standard you used to criticise Jockmd. And, as I’ve said above - more than once - I think there’s little value in judging the new lad, when we know so little about him.) it takes a rather brave; or perhaps stupid person to name the Jewish nation as oppressors, I have no wish to encourage a debate, my point was simply to offer an alternate viewpoint, this is an area where nobody wins and coming down unilaterally on either side does not help defuse the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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