John Gotti Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I'm amazed that so many people believe we have the money to pay off Spalding and Murray and then add yet another wage to the club.Why not bud, we seem to have plenty of money to pay off players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Why not bud, we seem to have plenty of money to pay off players. Plus I'd imagine the likes of Imrie and Harkins were on better wages than our current manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Why not bud, we seem to have plenty of money to pay off players. Well we haven't paid off a player this season. I don't doubt we could afford to pay Murray off. I do doubt we could afford to pay him off and then add a new contract to the club. Remember, he has a 2 year deal. It ain't going to be cheap to sack him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Plus I'd imagine the likes of Imrie and Harkins were on better wages than our current manager. Possibly. Different kettle of fish with players though. They both knew they were getting another club relatively quickly and wanted to leave. I imagine there mutual consent agreements weren't too hefty. Murray may never manage again after this debacle. He certainly won't get another full time gig any time soon and he doesn't want to leave. Paying him off will be far more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Well we haven't paid off a player this season. I don't doubt we could afford to pay Murray off. I do doubt we could afford to pay him off and then add a new contract to the club. Remember, he has a 2 year deal. It ain't going to be cheap to sack him. Depends what clauses are in the contract. I wouldn't imagine anyone on here has seen the fine print of the managers contract so we don't know what, if any, clauses are in there regarding termination or moving to another club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Depends what clauses are in the contract. I wouldn't imagine anyone on here has seen the fine print of the managers contract so we don't know what, if any, clauses are in there regarding termination or moving to another club.Indeed. I know there's been a rumour going around on social media that Murray had an ' X performance minimum by Christmas or sacked for nothing '.Utter nonsense of course, no manager in their right mind would agree to something like that. I would guess that if he did have a clause in his deal it would most likely be at the end of year one in his two year deal. No help to us now unfortunately. Murray was an expansive appointment. We had to pay Teale off and then pay Dumbarton to get him and Spalding. The BOD will naturally be desperate not to sack him after such expense in getting him, but the way things are going they aren't going to have much option. Edited December 5, 2015 by TopCat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottd Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Indeed. I know there's been a rumour going around on social media that Murray had an ' X performance minimum by Christmas or sacked for nothing '. Utter nonsense of course, no manager in their right mind would agree to something like that. I would guess that if he did have a clause in his deal it would most likely be at the end of year one in his two year deal. No help to us now unfortunately. Murray was an expansive appointment. We had to pay Teale off and then pay Dumbarton to get him and Spalding. The BOD will naturally be desperate not to sack him after such expense in getting him, but the way things are going they aren't going to have much option. So you have seen the detail of the managers contract? It always was a long shot that a performance clause was present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 So you have seen the detail of the managers contract? It always was a long shot that a performance clause was present. No I haven't but he said during the week there was no clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Eric Black, Terry Butcher, Billy Davis, Duncan Ferguson, Gary McAllister, Billy McKinlay I believe are all available and looking for a new challenge. (I may be wrong) Guy's like Billy Davis have win ratios in the 40 % plus range at several clubs - 4 times better than Murray I'd bet that even if his salary was 4 times Murray's - it would bring in far more than he'd cost via success and larger crowds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 the ideal candidate. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/10931749/Why-this-female-football-manager-quitting-should-matter-to-you.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripey Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Eric Black, Terry Butcher, Billy Davis, Duncan Ferguson, Gary McAllister, Billy McKinlay I believe are all available and looking for a new challenge. (I may be wrong) Guy's like Billy Davis have win ratios in the 40 % plus range at several clubs - 4 times better than Murray I'd bet that even if his salary was 4 times Murray's - it would bring in far more than he'd cost via success and larger crowds! Their is no way that Billy Davies would either become manager or be offered it even at 4 times Murrays wage. Such a move by the BOD,s to first of all pay Murray off and the compensation that this would entail, plus the money we would have to invest in wages alone to get Billy Davis would make it impractical, however he may appeal to some. Their is but 2 of the above names you suggest might be worth a punt as manager that I would perhaps go along with you and once again I don,t see either being offered the job that is once we have one to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints 12 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Eric Black, Terry Butcher, Billy Davis, Duncan Ferguson, Gary McAllister, Billy McKinlay I believe are all available and looking for a new challenge. (I may be wrong) Gary McAllistair is currently working behind the scenes at Liverpool. Billy McKinlay manages Stabaek in Norway, Duncan Ferguson is Everton's 1st team coach, Why would we want Terry Butcher? Been a failure after he left ICT, flopped at Hibs and Newport County. And I'm sure Billy Davies has stated plenty of times that he doesn't want the job. Edited December 5, 2015 by SuperSaints 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Is there any reason why the Ibrox messiah, Warburton's name, hasn't featured heavily here? This seems to be the only club he's not in the running to manage, so far - given he is so understandably unsettled at sevco... Edited December 5, 2015 by bluto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Eric Black, Terry Butcher, Billy Davis, Duncan Ferguson, Gary McAllister, Billy McKinlay I believe are all available and looking for a new challenge. (I may be wrong) Gary McAllistair is currently working behind the scenes at Liverpool. Billy McKinlay manages Stabaek in Norway, Duncan Ferguson is Everton's 1st team coach, Why would we want Terry Butcher? Been a failure after he left ICT, flopped at Hibs and Newport County. And I'm sure Billy Davies has stated plenty of times that he doesn't want the job. Why was Billy Davis hanging about the club last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Gary McAllistair is currently working behind the scenes at Liverpool. Billy McKinlay manages Stabaek in Norway, Duncan Ferguson is Everton's 1st team coach, Why would we want Terry Butcher? Been a failure after he left ICT, flopped at Hibs and Newport County. And I'm sure Billy Davies has stated plenty of times that he doesn't want the job. Finally a bit of reality. Last I heard Butcher was happy back living down in Suffolk and doing media work. Would he really want to give that up to come manage a team in the bottom half of the second tier? Moot point anyway, as we couldn't afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Why was Billy Davis hanging about the club last season? Probably doing a bit of scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Probably doing a bit of scouting. He was there more or less every week though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintnextlifetime Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 He was there more or less every week though l believe he still attends. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCat Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 There's more chance of Billy Davies being our next chairman than of him being our next manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I don't get why if I don't perform my duties keeping within budget I can get the sack with no pay off yet there seems to be a different rule for football maangers. Why is this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 No response on Eric Black ?? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 He is shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jake Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Why was Billy Davis hanging about the club last season? Sadomasochist maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper07 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 He is shite Yeah maybe - but certainly not in comparison to Murray!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedflanders123 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 No I haven't but he said during the week there was no clause. Yes there is and be comes on 25 December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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