saintargyll Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Fairly typical display, a lot poorer than we would have hoped for, but we didn't do any worse than Aberdeen on the day and I don't think we deserved to come away with no points and the Dons didn't deserve 3 points. That's just our fate at the moment. Dj-Dj was guilty of a needless and ridiculously risky challenge. Penalty or not, the jury is out on his status as hero or villain. DL is still a rabbit in the headlights. Clueless and tactically naive. With every game that passes it is becoming clearer that we won the League Cup last season despite him rather than because of him. A lucky, timely signing of Isma Gonzalves got us through the semi and the final. His other signings have been bawz. Let's hope we don't get relegated before he leaves in May. Ive often wondered....did DL miss any chances in front of goal? i mean...is he wholly responsible did the manager foul the opposing player in the box? yes...i totally understand there have been some bad signings...but good ones too...ALSO we have some fantastic prospects (mcginn,nesmith,kelly and mclean) all down to his good work on the training field correct me if im wrong..but...has thommo(the legend) not missed a sitter in the last 4 games? maybe the 24 people in here out of the 3,000 regular people who attend the games are more clued up!!! dressing room bust ups hitler esk persona my way or the highway things ive heard from the "clued up" people in here who may or may not be "in the know" either way..in my mind im as frustrated as each and every one of you...as a saints fan we are hurting together(i hope) god know we alllllll know what hurt feel like over the years(some more than others) there is wayyy tooo much "looking into your crystal balls" syndrome.....foreseeing DOOM and GLOOM we allll know its the saints way....its how we roll (unfortunately for us)but we have to live with it...we have done for years....and well you know it how about being positive till the end of the season for a change and support both the team and management deep down you know it makes sense (and would be a first for some of you grumpy b@stards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Dickson Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I had the St Mirren game and the Sunderland game showing on two large screen tellies at the same time this afternoon. It didn't take too long before I'd lost all interest in the offering from Greenhill Road. The match was absolutely dire. Aberdeen looked like low quality shit, the played very little football and their whole game plan seemed to revolve around getting the ball forward to McGinn and Pawlett as quickly as possible - and St Mirren looked even worse with very little game plan. Am I right in saying that St Mirren's first on target - and possibly only on target effort on goal was in the 87th minute? The Sunderland game was hardly a thrill a minute either but at least there was some quality in that game. Thank f**k I don't go to many top flight Scottish games these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windae cleaner Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Ive often wondered....did DL miss any chances in front of goal? i mean...is he wholly responsible did the manager foul the opposing player in the box? yes...i totally understand there have been some bad signings...but good ones too...ALSO we have some fantastic prospects (mcginn,nesmith,kelly and mclean) all down to his good work on the training field correct me if im wrong..but...has thommo(the legend) not missed a sitter in the last 4 games? maybe the 24 people in here out of the 3,000 regular people who attend the games are more clued up!!! dressing room bust ups hitler esk persona my way or the highway things ive heard from the "clued up" people in here who may or may not be "in the know" either way..in my mind im as frustrated as each and every one of you...as a saints fan we are hurting together(i hope) god know we alllllll know what hurt feel like over the years(some more than others) there is wayyy tooo much "looking into your crystal balls" syndrome.....foreseeing DOOM and GLOOM we allll know its the saints way....its how we roll (unfortunately for us)but we have to live with it...we have done for years....and well you know it how about being positive till the end of the season for a change and support both the team and management deep down you know it makes sense (and would be a first for some of you grumpy b@stards) Hard to be positive when we are on yet another long winless run. Today was dreadful no abuse or encouragement from the stands. Just an apathy about the club we were waiting for a mistake to happen because it's a regular occurence Talking about Thommo he has missed a few chances but no one else has. No one comes close to scoring these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 After the goal we played better/more direct than in the previous 70 odd minutes? I was meaning the reaction right after the penalty was scored .... heads were down looking at turf, nobody wanting to take responsibilty - looked like they didn't really give a f*ck. Didn't really think we were that much better after that to be honest, Aberdeen sat back and we lofted balls up in the general direction of Thompson and hoped. We had one shot in 87th minute and they probably should have scored a second on the break. We can dress it up however we like - that wasn't a great Aberdeen team today and we lost at home ....again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Hard to be positive when we are on yet another long winless run. Today was dreadful no abuse or encouragement from the stands. Just an apathy about the club we were waiting for a mistake to happen because it's a regular occurence Talking about Thommo he has missed a few chances but no one else has. No one comes close to scoring these days nail on head...."WHY IS IT HARD TO BE POSITIVE" totally understand how you feel btw but if ever there was a time???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 i don't understand why people like you hiding behind a keyboard can't just either agree or disagree without having to have a dig at the poster If you read my post I said more positives about mcginn who is by far my favourite player at the club It's called banter... sorry if I hurt your sensitive feelings!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 I had the St Mirren game and the Sunderland game showing on two large screen tellies at the same time this afternoon. It didn't take too long before I'd lost all interest in the offering from Greenhill Road. The match was absolutely dire. Aberdeen looked like low quality shit, the played very little football and their whole game plan seemed to revolve around getting the ball forward to McGinn and Pawlett as quickly as possible - and St Mirren looked even worse with very little game plan. Am I right in saying that St Mirren's first on target - and possibly only on target effort on goal was in the 87th minute? The Sunderland game was hardly a thrill a minute either but at least there was some quality in that game. Thank f**k I don't go to many top flight Scottish games these days. amen, said the crowd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 i don't understand why people like you hiding behind a keyboard can't just either agree or disagree without having to have a dig at the poster If you read my post I said more positives about mcginn who is by far my favourite player at the club oh... and no hiding... pm me and I'll gladly meet up with you at the next home game for a chat about all things Saints! "people like me" I'm not so sure what you are getting at... I am a Saints fan who tells it as I see it, enjoys a bit of banter and likes to engage with other Saints fans! (ps... I still think your original post was worthy of the daily record!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_1706 Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Maybe I had hospitality wine glass goggles on... but I thought we weren't that bad and managed to make a good Aberdeen side look positively ordinary. We deserved a draw. Defence looked solid and Goodwin had a great game... booking was a travesty yet again. McGinn was the best player on the pitch by the distance between the two teams respective home-towns!!! Eric double D did the simple things really well and his passing was exceptional... always for a player to run onto. The stupid lunge for the foul outside the box that was interpreted as a penalty was due to tiredness... a match fit DD wouldn't do that. Newton had a few poor crosses at the start but went on to have a decent game... though I really can't see the point in playing him ahead of Naismith... it didn't add to our play... but didn't detract either thankfully. McLean looked hungry and made plenty good runs... but the passes never quite found him. I feel that is a role he will go on to make his own... reminds me so much of a young Billy Stark. Gowser had two men on him at all times as McInnes had done his homework... I think Wylde could have made more use of that if he had concentrated on the game rather than petty one-upmanship with his former team-mates!!! Campbell for McGowan I didn't mind... but it should have been a double substitution with Teale on for Wylde at the same time. Not a disaster of a day due to other results... and not an awful game either. In isolation, I could accept today... but it did nothing to redress our awful form long-term! I'm giving up on this club. If this is what we can expect then f*** that for a laugh - I'm off to the cinema. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I'm giving up on this club. If this is what we can expect then f*** that for a laugh - I'm off to the cinema. with Gus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ McG Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Lennon got his team right the day, can't blame him for that, obviously listened to me when I said play newton at right back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender rodriguez Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's called banter... sorry if I hurt your sensitive feelings!!!!!!!ok buddie fair play! I hate that paper tho! Hope you had a good day at the hospitality I had no wine in me watching that today though so u probably had a better day than us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Lennon got his team right the day, can't blame him for that, obviously listened to me when I said play newton at right back I wouldn't say he got it right as McGowan was lost, McLean didn't really create from his advanced position and Thompson was isolated all day. If you then look at the tactics, we had Thompson constantly wide, McGowan drifting inside, Wylde doing next to nothing, nobody showing for McGinn and constant long balls. Maybe Danny has taken a blow to the head, but he seems to think we have 7ft tall greyhounds all over the park. We can't pass, we can't press, we can't create, can't win second balls and can't win. We're a shadow of what Danny tried to install, our identity is bland pathetic football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 I wouldn't say he got it right as McGowan was lost, McLean didn't really create from his advanced position and Thompson was isolated all day. If you then look at the tactics, we had Thompson constantly wide, McGowan drifting inside, Wylde doing next to nothing, nobody showing for McGinn and constant long balls. Maybe Danny has taken a blow to the head, but he seems to think we have 7ft tall greyhounds all over the park. We can't pass, we can't press, we can't create, can't win second balls and can't win. We're a shadow of what Danny tried to install, our identity is bland pathetic football. yes and how did Goodwin do today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TsuMirren Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 yes and how did Goodwin do today? Pretty non-descript really. Needless handball, a few simple headers and random passes...aimless free kicks too of course. Journeyman normality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 It's not a role that particularly requires fitness.. especially with 2 central midfielders in front of him. Well , the proof is in the pudding , and his alarming lack of fitness was an important factor in the defeat culminating in his lazy lunge at the pen ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shull Posted February 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 He is a great young player but does get caught on then ball like you said. I commented in this thread during the game that he's a bit of a one trick pony with the way he turns on the ball. Aberdeen caught onto this and should have scored a second when Rooney was 1 on 1 with Kello, had he squared it we would have been 2 down. He played some great passes today though with both feet. Definitely a star in the making. Still learning and will get better. So was Cruyff with that turn of his, Didnae dae much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickMcD Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 So was Cruyff with that turn of his, Didnae dae much else. I've a notion Cruyff scored a handful of goals but time plays tricks with the memory. McGinn did get caught in possession a few times yesterday but on a couple of those occasions there was no bugger helping him. On a few other occasions he showed his class. McLean was quiet but he too had a couple of lovely touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Well , the proof is in the pudding , and his alarming lack of fitness was an important factor in the defeat culminating in his lazy lunge at the pen ! As i touched as I am that your scrolled back 10 pages to quote me on that.. the penalty had nothing to do with lack of fitness. I don't know what age you are mate but you obviously haven't played football in a long time if you think it requires any sort of fitness to get in front of the ball from 3 yards away (especially from a set piece when he's just had a breather) and usher the defender towards the byeline.. it was just poor decision making to lunge in. Same goes for the one he got booked for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLBud Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) On the positive side we certainly looked more solid yesterday with Goodwin in beside McGregor and Newton at right back. That's the way to go next week. As for the rest? McGinn and McLean tried all day and get pass marks. Gowser needs a rest as he's lost form and maybe a bit of confidence. Djemba Djemba is half a yard too slow and is a bit if a liability. Cost us a goal last week and a point yesterday. Wylde? Not sure why we've given him an 18 month deal. He showed nothing yesterday. Thommo looks to have run his race and needs a break but we have nobody to replace him. Given how the teams have played all season it wasn't an unexpected result but Aberdeen were nowhere near their best yesterday without Robson and Hayes and we should've taken something. Massive game next week. Edited February 16, 2014 by DLBud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Did try and tell you it was a stroke of genius to move him on to weaken Thistle's defence! Your opinion, nothing more, whereas his replacement arrived late, unfit and has seen us out of the Scottish Cup as well as conceding the penalty yesterday. Edited February 16, 2014 by Bud the Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Our last 3 games have been Celtic away, Dundee United away and Aberdeen at home. We've lost all 3 by 1 goal, not a disaster really. Our big games are coming up now against the teams around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 As i touched as I am that your scrolled back 10 pages to quote me on that.. the penalty had nothing to do with lack of fitness. I don't know what age you are mate but you obviously haven't played football in a long time if you think it requires any sort of fitness to get in front of the ball from 3 yards away (especially from a set piece when he's just had a breather) and usher the defender towards the byeline.. it was just poor decision making to lunge in. Same goes for the one he got booked for. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ " I was wrong, but rather than admit it I'll deflect it back " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintargyll Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 Our last 3 games have been Celtic away, Dundee United away and Aberdeen at home. We've lost all 3 by 1 goal, not a disaster really. Our big games are coming up now against the teams around us. Totally agree Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irvine_buddie Posted February 16, 2014 Report Share Posted February 16, 2014 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ " I was wrong, but rather than admit it I'll deflect it back " ! So you're telling me he wouldn't of made that tackle if he was fitter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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