eastlandssaint Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 An attendance of 2,329 is pretty poor as well . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E=Mc2 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 E=mc2 I'm waiting for the lad wi' the sandwich to look away. It's the seagull in me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Your on another planet. You will not be seeing anything of Brady as until we replace this useless manager then were going to be in a relegation battle. But hey it's ok cos your the type of guy that just accepts what is happening. I cannot believe Inverness, Motherwell, Ross county, Patrick , st.johnstone all have much better bigger budgets than ours? It's crap to suggest were incapable of having a good team and a good season. The managers league record in 2013 is absolutely horrendous and after watching that crap today can anyone say it's going to pan out ok? Have a chill pill or two Norrie. It is only a few weeks since you were defending Danny whilst basking in the glory of that home win over Dundee United is it not? 3 games later and you now want this "useless manager" removed. Have Danny's abilities and weaknesses changed much in the last fortnight? No! The main point I was making about a shocker of a performance was that it was not unexpected for me when we were without arguably our best 3 midfielders away from home against a side that have finished in the top 6 which has so far always eluded us. When our best players are all fit and in the starting XI and on form we are capable of playing Dundee United, Motherwell, Inverness, Ross County, Partick off the pitch. When one or two are out or off form we can get by. Yesterday we had McGinn, Teale and McLean missing and for me it has been 2 seasons since McGowan and Goodwin have been regularly excellent... we don't have a big enough or strong enough squad to cope with half the ideal starting XI being suspended, injured or off form. I don't see it as a permanent state of doom. With a jail sentence avoided maybe McGowan will settle into better form? McGinn is back for the next game, Teale should be back in contention in a few weeks and a few weeks later we should have McLean back. Ross County will probably not keep on winning, we won't keep on losing, we may make some signings which improve us during this window - Campbell was always going to need time but has already scored 1 goal in 3 games. I realise you think Motherwell are about the same size as us but they obviously can afford to offer players more money than we can (eg Sutton and Higdon) and have a bigger squad as well as a better paid squad than us. Over the last few seasons they've finished up in the European spots pretty consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Have a chill pill or two Norrie. It is only a few weeks since you were defending Danny whilst basking in the glory of that home win over Dundee United is it not? 3 games later and you now want this "useless manager" removed. Have Danny's abilities and weaknesses changed much in the last fortnight? No! The main point I was making about a shocker of a performance was that it was not unexpected for me when we were without arguably our best 3 midfielders away from home against a side that have finished in the top 6 which has so far always eluded us. When our best players are all fit and in the starting XI and on form we are capable of playing Dundee United, Motherwell, Inverness, Ross County, Partick off the pitch. When one or two are out or off form we can get by. Yesterday we had McGinn, Teale and McLean missing and for me it has been 2 seasons since McGowan and Goodwin have been regularly excellent... we don't have a big enough or strong enough squad to cope with half the ideal starting XI being suspended, injured or off form. I don't see it as a permanent state of doom. With a jail sentence avoided maybe McGowan will settle into better form? McGinn is back for the next game, Teale should be back in contention in a few weeks and a few weeks later we should have McLean back. Ross County will probably not keep on winning, we won't keep on losing, we may make some signings which improve us during this window - Campbell was always going to need time but has already scored 1 goal in 3 games. I realise you think Motherwell are about the same size as us but they obviously can afford to offer players more money than we can (eg Sutton and Higdon) and have a bigger squad as well as a better paid squad than us. Over the last few seasons they've finished up in the European spots pretty consistently. motherwell have been almost consistently above us in the league in the past 30 years and in that time, have also had avg attendances larger than our. They also have a bigger stadium = they are a bigger club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Have a chill pill or two Norrie. It is only a few weeks since you were defending Danny whilst basking in the glory of that home win over Dundee United is it not? 3 games later and you now want this "useless manager" removed. Have Danny's abilities and weaknesses changed much in the last fortnight? No! The main point I was making about a shocker of a performance was that it was not unexpected for me when we were without arguably our best 3 midfielders away from home against a side that have finished in the top 6 which has so far always eluded us. When our best players are all fit and in the starting XI and on form we are capable of playing Dundee United, Motherwell, Inverness, Ross County, Partick off the pitch. When one or two are out or off form we can get by. Yesterday we had McGinn, Teale and McLean missing and for me it has been 2 seasons since McGowan and Goodwin have been regularly excellent... we don't have a big enough or strong enough squad to cope with half the ideal starting XI being suspended, injured or off form. I don't see it as a permanent state of doom. With a jail sentence avoided maybe McGowan will settle into better form? McGinn is back for the next game, Teale should be back in contention in a few weeks and a few weeks later we should have McLean back. Ross County will probably not keep on winning, we won't keep on losing, we may make some signings which improve us during this window - Campbell was always going to need time but has already scored 1 goal in 3 games. I realise you think Motherwell are about the same size as us but they obviously can afford to offer players more money than we can (eg Sutton and Higdon) and have a bigger squad as well as a better paid squad than us. Over the last few seasons they've finished up in the European spots pretty consistently. Radio yesterday was reporting that last season, Ojama was only on £300 a week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibbles old paperboy Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Radio yesterday was reporting that last season, Ojama was only on £300 a week! are you suggesting £300 is typical of what Motherwell offer players per week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 motherwell have been almost consistently above us in the league in the past 30 years and in that time, have also had avg attendances larger than our. They also have a bigger stadium = they are a bigger club. Kilmarnock have an 18,000 capacity white elephant. Does this mean they are a bigger club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaponsasaint Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 are you suggesting £300 is typical of what Motherwell offer players per week? No, Hes saying that's what they said on the radio, I heard it as well on the bus on the way home from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddieinEK Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 are you suggesting £300 is typical of what Motherwell offer players per week? Are you suggesting I suggested that as opposed to simply reading a statement shared that was heard on the radio. Damn.... where is that hidden agenda? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Motherwell have had good league placings yes but they have had less than 4k at recent home games. We can compete with them if we get our act together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scabby Dug Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 A question that needs answers. Why have we been wearing our bright yellow 3rd strip instead of the regular black & white stripes? It was noticeable against the fake saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 It was noticeable against the fake saints It should be noticeable, it's bright yellow ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Having watched the highlights, I take my hat off to anyone who sat through that. It looked as bad as the Dundee United thrashing. Glad I decided on Saturday morning not to go. £30 saved and a bottle of Peroni red cracked open by 6.00 p.m. On the plus side, I watched Thistle V's County. They look equally as bad as us. It was like watching two pub teams when they were trying to defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Kilmarnock have an 18,000 capacity white elephant. Does this mean they are a bigger club? kimarnock - larger average crowds, bigger turnover, larger stadium = bigger club. Some of our fans are pretty deluded as to how big a club we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Gilhooley Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) kimarnock - 1.larger average crowds, 2.bigger turnover, 3.larger stadium = bigger club. Some of our fans are pretty deluded as to how big a club we are. 1.Not this season. 2. Bigger overheads /outgoings ( also remember that approx £2 million of the t/o comes from the hotel & leisure operation & long term non & low interest loans from two directors soften the financial burden ) 3.definately more empty seats, & a ridiculously small Tunnel !! & 4. Still, despite years of cut backs.......Bigger debt ! I do agree though that potentially when better run,they are a bigger club. So much depends on whether Rankers are playing at home !! Edited January 13, 2014 by Callum Gilhooley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP87 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Just watched the highlights. While they were a fair reflection and we were soundly humped, I'm curious why they chose to ignore McGowan's chance at the end of the first half when it was still 0-0? Most Buds there wouldn't have seen it properly as it was the opposite end of the pitch but I wad behind the goal and it can't have been more than a foot past. That said, we were shite and Goodwin is a liability - not because he did anything particularly wrong but because the Fakes knew if they threw themselves down every time he was near, he'd eventually be booked and - they hoped - sent off. For example, the 2 'fouls' shortly after his booking were clear over-reactions. I'm afraid the actions of certain managers, teams and pundits could hound our skipper out the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norrie82 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) kimarnock - larger average crowds, bigger turnover, larger stadium = bigger club. Some of our fans are pretty deluded as to how big a club we are. Not this season they don't. Also several millions in debt must be a crippling problem. Your talking crap Barney Edited January 13, 2014 by norrie82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 kimarnock - larger average crowds, bigger turnover, larger stadium = bigger club. Some of our fans are pretty deluded as to how big a club we are. Their stadium may be larger than ours, but Michelle Mcamanus is larger than Beyonce. Killie's stadium is a dilapidated, crumbling, unsafe mess. On average it has 14,000 EMPTY seats every home game. IMO St Mirren Park >>> Rugby Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Probably more of a subject for GD forum but here's my tuppenceworth - Killie & Motherwell aren't bigger clubs in the sense of having a larger fanbase, the difference in average crowds is due to being able to accommodate more OF fans and generally doing better than us in the league. Both clubs have generally finished above us in the SP(F)L due to being longer established in the top division, easier to understand with Motherwell, who finish above us, get more place money, have a bigger budget and therefore (once again) finish above us - will the circle be unbroken? Again this is more of a GD complaint but it is a touch depressing that yet again not only will we not make the Top Six but we're pretty much out of the running already in mid-January - time for a song................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deekthebuddie Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What a dire display- seen nothing quite as bad this season as that game, although Thomo can be faulted on his effort- despite have little service from the rest of the team. If we keep this up we can forget about staying up. And 2 things I dont want- 1) Danny to say there where 'positives' to take from the game (only only getting beaten 2-0 nil is classed as good) and 2) That bloody awful dayglo yellow third kit, we havent played a single good game wearing it, maybe the glare is hurting the players eyes, they cant see the ball? Just praying we improve soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraway saint Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 What a dire display- seen nothing quite as bad this season as that game, although Thomo can be faulted on his effort- despite have little service from the rest of the team. If we keep this up we can forget about staying up. And 2 things I dont want- 1) Danny to say there where 'positives' to take from the game (only only getting beaten 2-0 nil is classed as good) and 2) That bloody awful dayglo yellow third kit, we havent played a single good game wearing it, maybe the glare is hurting the players eyes, they cant see the ball? Just praying we improve soon Did you need to walk back from Perth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 Just watched the highlights.While they were a fair reflection and we were soundly humped, I'm curious why they chose to ignore McGowan's chance at the end of the first half when it was still 0-0?Most Buds there wouldn't have seen it properly as it was the opposite end of the pitch but I wad behind the goal and it can't have been more than a foot past.That said, we were shite and Goodwin is a liability - not because he did anything particularly wrong but because the Fakes knew if they threw themselves down every time he was near, he'd eventually be booked and - they hoped - sent off. For example, the 2 'fouls' shortly after his booking were clear over-reactions. I'm afraid the actions of certain managers, teams and pundits could hound our skipper out the game. I sometimes wonder if they're trying to make us look even worse than we are (although admittedly we are pretty sh*te at the moment). For instance, the Beeb's stats said we had no shots on target, despite their keeper making a double save from big Bahookie near the end. Do they not count as 'on target'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltcoatsbuddie Posted January 14, 2014 Report Share Posted January 14, 2014 obviously only in 90 mins ,added time didn't count,altho having witnessed it I would have said the fakes prob had more than 9 shots on target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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