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43 minutes ago, Dave The Buddie said:

 


Barnsley got an average crowds of 13,000 last season with Newcastle, Leeds etc visiting. They would only easily get in the top 4 if they had the finances they get now. They are no bigger club than Dundee Utd or Hibs

Mallan's last League game was in front of 20,000 just over a week ago. He will need to get used to smaller crowds in the industrial heartlands of Engerland :)

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My point is Dave they do get the finances don't they, so whats your point exactly.... If Lewis didn't have a fast car he would not win races?


My point is that we they wouldn't easily finish in a top 4 position if they were in the Scottish Premiership.

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I really thought Mallan would gave ended up at Hibs or Hearts as he is the sort of player (like Mclean and McGinn) who would fit in easily to their first team.

I'm actually glad that is someone like Barnsley he is going to hopefully not too much pressure on his shoulders(due to small price tag) and he ends up being their best player over next season or 2 then get a big money move to someone else and our sell on clause gets us a nice little earner.

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The Billy Big Baws might also want to reflect onnthe following.

We have never been in administration. We could have done but we sold our ground to pay our debts instead.

That has left our club's history intact and stain-free.

Perhaps if Barnsley had the shown the same level of honour and decency they would not be in a position to essentially screw us for one of our best players.

They should maybe show a bit more f**king respect.

Or at least they should maybe try having the overheads associated with actually owning their own f**king stadium. Even our "conference" club has managed that. They rent from the council FFS.

Edited by oaksoft

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I think people need to be a little more realistic about how much teams are prepared to pay for a 21 year old Scottish Championship player with one year left on his contract. £250k and a decent sell on clause if he happens to do well sounds about right to me.

Mallan also deserves his move, and I think we do the right thing by our young players. We want youngsters and their parents to know that if you sign for St.Mirren and you are good, you will play, and if you do well enough, we will sell you to a bigger club, where you will earn a lot more money.

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You mean they are worse than Fakes and Sevco- Scary


Yes I believe they would struggle to get in our top 4 if they were in the Scottish Premiership and had the financial constraints that our teams work under. St Johnstone have arguably the best manager out with Rodgers who works wonders year in year out in Tommy Wright.

The move for Mallan to Barnsley is a good one for numerous reasons. More competitive league, money and better exposure to go to even bigger club than Barnsley. If he keeps progressing his stay at Barnsley could be a short one and could go on to better things.

He deserves his move he has been excellent

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6 minutes ago, Dave The Buddie said:

 

 


Yes I believe they would struggle to get in our top 4 if they were in the Scottish Premiership and had the financial constraints that our teams work under. St Johnstone have arguably the best manager out with Rodgers who works wonders year in year out in Tommy Wright.

The move for Mallan to Barnsley is a good one for numerous reasons. More competitive league, money and better exposure to go to even bigger club than Barnsley. If he keeps progressing his stay at Barnsley could be a short one and could go on to better things.

He deserves his move he has been excellent
 

 

Agreed, great move for him

 

BUT- they don't have the financial contstriants- Feck Real Madrid would struggle to

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I don't think this is the best move for him, Barnsley aren't a very high profile club and he could easily be forgotten about down there unless he is a standout for them, I think he should hold out, bigger teams than Barnsley will come calling soon enough.

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I don't think this is the best move for him, Barnsley aren't a very high profile club and he could easily be forgotten about down there unless he is a standout for them, I think he should hold out, bigger teams than Barnsley will come calling soon enough.


Barnsley are a team who finished in the middle of the Championship and have aspirations of getting to the EPL, where they've been before.

Where do you think he should go?

I think this is a great move for him and I'm pretty confident he will do well down there.

It was becoming clear toward the end of the season that he's far too good to be playing in the Scottish Championship. This move has came at the right time for him.

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1 minute ago, TopCat said:

 


Barnsley are a team who finished in the middle of the Championship and have aspirations of getting to the EPL, where they've been before.

Where do you think he should go?

I think this is a great move for him and I'm pretty confident he will do well down there.

It was becoming clear toward the end of the season that he's far too good to be playing in the Scottish Championship. This move has came at the right time for him.

 

It's only not a good move if there are bigger clubs interested. The boy is a class act, but I have seen good players disappear down there, so the important thing here is that he trusts the manager who is signing him to give him the backing he deserves and help develop his career even further.

As for being far too good for the Scottish Championship, it'd be nice to have that kind of player for another season, if it were possible... :wink:

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There is no danger Barnsley will be in the EPL in the near future, they are more likely to be heading to League 1. Somewhere like Leeds, one of the Sheffield clubs or even a club like Reading or Fulham would be a far better option, plus as others have stated Barnsley is a shithole.

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Quick Question, what is the name of the "Oh Wee Stevie Mallan Song".

I thought it was the Rolling Stones my other half thinks it's The Strokes starting to think neither of us is right.

 

Edited to add ---------------

F####R just found it The White Stripes not happy she thinks she is funny beating me to finding it.

Edited by Ronnie

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When you drive into Barnsley there's a big sign that says 'Welcome to Barnsley - don't laugh, just wait until you see Rotherham'.
That's one for any Barnsley fans 'dipping in'. See, we're a nice friendly bunch here. 


Does it not say 'welcome tit bansli '

Big Yorkshire boy I work beside when I asked him about the place said, "shit ole"
Seems conclusive.

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36 minutes ago, Soctty said:

It's only not a good move if there are bigger clubs interested. The boy is a class act, but I have seen good players disappear down there, so the important thing here is that he trusts the manager who is signing him to give him the backing he deserves and help develop his career even further.

As for being far too good for the Scottish Championship, it'd be nice to have that kind of player for another season, if it were possible... :wink:

Very easy to disappear down there, or at least appear to...again perception. He'll initially have to deal with no longer being "ohhhhhhhh wee Stevie Maaallaaaan" and instead just part of a squad. Also, it's a larger league, more sides means less games feeling the same, bigger crowds, more expectation and I'd argue those clubs are less patient. I'm honestly not sure Stevie is too good for the Championship, but then I don't believe the Championship is as bad as a lot of people tend to make out. 

It could be difficult for him to adapt, character more than ability may actually shape how he gets on. I was down at Carlisle vs Exeter last night and even at League Two level there were spells when both sides showed they could rip apart a lot of Scottish sides, but they also had spells where they were just purely rank rotten. 

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Very easy to disappear down there, or at least appear to...again perception. He'll initially have to deal with no longer being "ohhhhhhhh wee Stevie Maaallaaaan" and instead just part of a squad. Also, it's a larger league, more sides means less games feeling the same, bigger crowds, more expectation and I'd argue those clubs are less patient. I'm honestly not sure Stevie is too good for the Championship, but then I don't believe the Championship is as bad as a lot of people tend to make out. 

It could be difficult for him to adapt, character more than ability may actually shape how he gets on. I was down at Carlisle vs Exeter last night and even at League Two level there were spells when both sides showed they could rip apart a lot of Scottish sides, but they also had spells where they were just purely rank rotten. 

I think he has the ability to go further, but as I said, the right manager will make a big difference. One who has faith in him and will persevere if he doesn't hit the ground running or one who is more concerned with his own position?

 

Hope he makes the right move and hope it goes well.

 

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As far as I'm led to believe Stevie Mallan was ready to go at Xmas. St Mirren pleaded with him to stay and try to keep us in the championship. Then in the Summer we would let him go. Arguably he has been the major force in keeping us up so he's saved us a fortune in being relegated so 200/300k whilst not ideal, is better than what we could have got at Xmas.

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I would seriously like to know how you think the old BoD profited from selling players on the cheap.
Go on, let us know. I could do with a good laugh.
I'd also like someone to name a single player that St. Mirren have sold on the cheap who has then go on to make his next club a large profit in the transfer market.
Just one.


Archie Gemmell was sold to Preston for £13,000 and they sold him to Derby for £60,000.

Macca was sold to West Ham for £340,000 and then sold onto Celtic for £750,000.

Sorry, wasn't sure how far back you wanted to go?

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As far as I'm led to believe Stevie Mallan was ready to go at Xmas. St Mirren pleaded with him to stay and try to keep us in the championship. Then in the Summer we would let him go. Arguably he has been the major force in keeping us up so he's saved us a fortune in being relegated so 200/300k whilst not ideal, is better than what we could have got at Xmas.

 

That's not true. Deal with Barnsley was agreed and we moved the goalposts, which we are entirely within our rights to do. They pulled out of the deal leaving Stevie understandably upset.

 

That makes his commitment and level of play since then even more remarkable. He's earned his big payday.

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12 minutes ago, El Gingero said:

As far as I'm led to believe Stevie Mallan was ready to go at Xmas. St Mirren pleaded with him to stay and try to keep us in the championship. Then in the Summer we would let him go. Arguably he has been the major force in keeping us up so he's saved us a fortune in being relegated so 200/300k whilst not ideal, is better than what we could have got at Xmas.

Mainly this above. I think there was a loose agreement between all parties with Barnsley getting first dibs subject to meeting a minimum fee (perhaps thats the £200k being bandied around?).

if I look back over his form for the whole of this season, and last I would have to say on reflection £200k plus any add on seems about right. He has by his own and his Dad's admission had real dips in form and will need to think carefully how he is going to play his game in that league. For a start he will have to make quicker, better choices if he is in possesion in the middle of the park.

it will be a hard slog if he falls back into getting dispossessed, or hitting poor passes again. Maybe thats all behind him now, and he is constantly thinking about position, possesion and next pass. If so he can be gallas enough to pull off plenty more stunning goals as he will find more space in the middle down there.

the majority of games in our league and bottom half of the premier here are nip& tuck midfield slogs, where managers are shit scared to commit men forward, but rather try to wear opponents down in deadlocked battles of attrition. Look at the football Newcastle and Brighton served up, if they can replicate that next season they will stay up, and that gives you an idea of the margin of step-up Stevie will need to adapt to.

almost every player in that league is measurably better than the anyone he has been up against in the last two seasons here. Good luck Stevie boy, you've earned it, now take the chance by the scruff of the neck and be a horrible wee bugger they all love to hate!

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I think most on here have a got a short term memory and easily forget how bad he was in the lead upto Christmas.

That being said, you cannot deny his input and quality in the latter part of the season. Is he worth more than £250 / £300k, probably; are we likely to get more, probably not. He should sign a year's extension and go next year - still lots to learn for him next to McGinn.

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3 minutes ago, melmac said:

I think most on here have a got a short term memory and easily forget how bad he was in the lead upto Christmas.

That being said, you cannot deny his input and quality in the latter part of the season. Is he worth more than £250 / £300k, probably; are we likely to get more, probably not. He should sign a year's extension and go next year - still lots to learn for him next to McGinn.

Not far off the mark there , He was one of plenty players who were just not cutting it , a lot of the criticism he received was OTT and his dad had to come on and defend him , as any father would do.

Stevie is worth what any other club is willing to pay for him and is now entering the last year of his deal.

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