Jason Naismith Leaves

[TediousTom 4,071]

5 minutes ago, paulsmfc said:

Anyone know what sort of fee was involved?

£30,000 as he was allowed to leave in this window.

 

 

[saltcoatsbuddie 497]

9 hours ago, Stoobs said:

AFC Wimbledon

he scored on Saturday in their win

[Isle Of Bute Saint 9,963]

Gutted absolutely gutted however I understand needs. Best of luck Jason. 

[ScotstounSaint 438]

2 hours ago, Hambud said:

Wikipedia has him with 46 games. Does that mean he's played 25 cup games?

No, he's been a sub in 25 league games, that's how they get to 46.

[bazil85 3,410]

Can anyone shine light on why the Naismith fee is supposedly so low.  I've had a look at the policy for development fee and it says up to and including 24 year old which he falls well within.  So surely a player thats been at the club all through his youth would command a significant amount of compensation? Surely there must be a sell on percentage or some kind of future incentive or it would appear we have been completely low balled. 

Is it because we didn't offer him a new contract and if so surely we should of made a nominal offer with a year extension when we first found out about Ross County to protect our development interest?

[rabuddies 1,425]

He could sign in June without compensation so anything we got is a bonus, apparently.

[Hambud 3,139]

Can anyone shine light on why the Naismith fee is supposedly so low.  I've had a look at the policy for development fee and it says up to and including 24 year old which he falls well within.  So surely a player thats been at the club all through his youth would command a significant amount of compensation? Surely there must be a sell on percentage or some kind of future incentive or it would appear we have been completely low balled. 
Is it because we didn't offer him a new contract and if so surely we should of made a nominal offer with a year extension when we first found out about Ross County to protect our development interest?

Think it's to do with his age.

[Bud the Baker 9,008]

6 minutes ago, Hambud said:

Think it's to do with his age.

At Naismith's age the compensation is awarded on a sliding scale which decreases as the player reaches the cut off point and is deemed to have repaid the investment by the club.

Edited January 20, 2017 by Bud the Baker

[Sonny 9,380]

2 hours ago, bazil85 said:

Can anyone shine light on why the Naismith fee is supposedly so low.  I've had a look at the policy for development fee and it says up to and including 24 year old which he falls well within.  So surely a player thats been at the club all through his youth would command a significant amount of compensation? Surely there must be a sell on percentage or some kind of future incentive or it would appear we have been completely low balled. 

Is it because we didn't offer him a new contract and if so surely we should of made a nominal offer with a year extension when we first found out about Ross County to protect our development interest?

This is my understanding and if I am wrong I would be grateful to anyone who can put me right.

The Club is entitled to development fees for players under 23 who either are, out of contract and been offered a new contract, or for players who are still in contract. Jason will be 23 in June and will be out of contract. RC could sign him then for free on both the above counts. But for now as he is still 22 just they they have to pay a development fee albeit a token fee as they can get him soon for nothing.

The problem with SMFC offering Jason a new contract just now is simple - what League will be playing in next season? The chances are we would be offering less that he is on just now and significantly less than a Premiership Club.

http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf

[Soctty 4,252]

12 minutes ago, Sonny said:

This is my understanding and if I am wrong I would be grateful to anyone who can put me right.

The Club is entitled to development fees for players under 23 who either are, out of contract and been offered a new contract, or for players who are still in contract. Jason will be 23 in June and will be out of contract. RC could sign him then for free on both the above counts. But for now as he is still 22 just they they have to pay a development fee albeit a token fee as they can get him soon for nothing.

The problem with SMFC offering Jason a new contract just now is simple - what League will be playing in next season? The chances are we would be offering less that he is on just now and significantly less than a Premiership Club.

http://spfl.co.uk/docs/067_324__therulesofthespfl_1375800603.pdf

I think the key is when the season officially ends. Does it end with the last game, or does it end at the end of June, when player contracts traditionally run out. If the latter, Naismith would have turned 23 when the season ends, and hence be outwith the compensation rules.

 

They paid a transfer fee now, to get him early.

 

Just speculating regarding the compensation, obviously, as I'm not a sports lawyer...

[ped 117]

Good luck to the guy , he was definitely one of our best players and has done well for saints

it has always disappointed me when we lose players to the likes of Ross county though ( higher league status aside) it's sad that we can't compete financially with a wee team from Dingwall. 

Wont be the last time I think 

[southsidebud 1,616]

Good luck Jason. I hope the move works for you. You'll always be on the 'Good Guy' list thanks to both your performances and also for being an absolute gent when the boy asked you for photos and autographs at that match attax event!

[HSS 12,307]

On as a half time sub for his debut.

[Louise79 49]

Lovely boy and sad to see him go

[pod 7,675]

Looks happy here

 

 

He met Pedro while on holiday. Was in Villa next door.

Edited June 3, 2017 by pod

[Hambud 3,139]

Looks happy here
 
  He met Pedro while on holiday. Was in Villa next door.

Either Ross County are paying too much or pedro is a tight c**t if they are sharing holiday destinations that closely.

[stlucifer 6,750]

14 hours ago, pod said:

Looks happy here

 

 

He met Pedro while on holiday. Was in Villa next door.

Just found out.

The conversation went something like:

Jason: " Hey. You're Pedro. Right"?

Pedro: "Yes. That is correcto".

Jason: "I'm Jason Naismith. I'm a football player too".

Pedro: "Why do I know your name"?

Jason: "I  play for Ross County in Scotland".

Pedro: "Who"?

Jason: "Ross County. I used to Play for Saint Mirren".

Pedro: "Aah. That's why I know you. The famous Saint Mirren who won that first European trophy.....................

Can we have a selfy taken"?

[HSS 12,307]

Scored for County tonight.

[Guest TPAFKATS]

SSN reporting Hull City and Shrewsbury have made enquiries to Ross County regarding Jason Naismith.

[pod 7,675]

10 hours ago, TPAFKATS said:

SSN reporting Hull City and Shrewsbury have made enquiries to Ross County regarding Jason Naismith.

If true,  any one of then would be good move for him.   Reflexs well on us.

Edited January 18, 2018 by pod

[djchapsticks 9,438]

10 minutes ago, pod said:

If true,  anyone of then would be good move for him.   Reflexs well on us.

The Brian Caldwell influence working down at Shrewsbury, I see. 

[Hambud 3,139]

Take it there's no sell on clause given the way he left the club?

[santaponsasaint 5,323]

So much for the ones on here who wrote him off after his knee injury. Good luck Jason.

[Kemp 5,553]

40 minutes ago, santaponsasaint said:

So much for the ones on here who wrote him off after his knee injury. Good luck Jason.

I don't recall a single person doing that.

[santaponsasaint 5,323]

how wrong you are. I have PMs in my inbox from Jason's father asking to pass his phone number to a few people on here who were bad mouthing him. 2 of them actually phoned George. So that's how I know your wrong bud.