ALBIONSAINT Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Story developing about no tax or PAYE being paid at the club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Oh crap! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Nothing about this on the usual outlets so I'd like to ask what the source of this story is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellV1 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18913123.police-alerted-financial-irregularities-st-mirren-fc/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Hopefully nothing to worry about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, munoz said: Hopefully nothing to worry about. I because i won't sleep tonight worrying! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott-Leeds Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Kibble ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperately Seeking Susans Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, Scott-Leeds said: Kibble ? Could be Barlinnie😊 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsons dropped it Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) The club has not divulged the amount of money involved. But it emphasised that none of what is being looked at relate to playing or management staff. Who is left then.....🤨 Other than Kibble..... Edited December 2, 2020 by thomsons dropped it Nae idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Monkey Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Looks like we've acted properly since discovering the problem: we alerted the relevant authorities asap while we investigate. Given that it doesn't concern playing or management staff, I have to imagine the sums involved will be relatively minor; we can settle up and move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) The Scottish Premiership club has called in forensic accountants to carry out what they call a "thorough review of a number of areas of its operations". So not necessarily the club as a whole, but an individual within or someone forgot to post a cheque. Edited December 2, 2020 by pod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 The club has not divulged the amount of money involved. But it emphasised that none of what is being looked at relate to playing or management staff. Who is left then..... Other than Kibble.....It sounds like an issue with contracted out services such as catering etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 8 hours ago, RussellV1 said: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18913123.police-alerted-financial-irregularities-st-mirren-fc/ Police alerted over financial irregularities at St Mirren FC. Typical press, Shouldn't it have read, St.Mirren FC alerted police over financial irregularities. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pod Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) What do you smell? - YouTube Edited December 2, 2020 by pod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazil85 Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Some of our fans just can't wait to have the Kibble sentenced and executed before any real information is known. We're lucky LPM is away, he'd have an absolute rager over this lack of information. 🤣 My reading is it sounds more like something the Kibble have flagged through their auditing process. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Optimistic Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, ALBIONSAINT said: Story developing about no tax or PAYE being paid at the club? That is not what the story says at all!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: 26 minutes ago, thomsons dropped it said: The club has not divulged the amount of money involved. But it emphasised that none of what is being looked at relate to playing or management staff. Who is left then..... Other than Kibble..... It sounds like an issue with contracted out services such as catering etc. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Ayrshire Saints said: 1 hour ago, thomsons dropped it said: The club has not divulged the amount of money involved. But it emphasised that none of what is being looked at relate to playing or management staff. Who is left then..... Other than Kibble..... It sounds like an issue with contracted out services such as catering etc. Since when do the club handle NI contributions for the catering staff? The club must have dozens of commercial agreements in place such as security, advertising, property maintenance, ticket sales, etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankin_panda Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Oh dear... let’s hope it’s resolved sooner than later. just another distraction on top of the ongoing disciplinary process. let’s hope we get it sorted & move on. Hard not to be concerned :/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portmahomack saint Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Someone should contact LPM he'll get to the bottom of it, Can see a 60 page debate with Bazil coming 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Possibly coincidental but the club's annual financial report is normally sent out to shareholders towards the end of November, I enquired about it being overdue yesterday and was told the club was unsure when it would be made available - ties in with us (our auditors) noticing something wrong & telling the polis. Edited December 2, 2020 by Bud the Baker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud the Baker Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Particularly enjoyed this from the comments section of the Herald article - wonder who he supports? Quote The dominoes are falling and the cartel that pushed the team into relegation are about to be exposed as utter chancers and financial basket cases. The honest Hearts profit announced all accounts paid. Doncaster must act and throw St mirren out of the league immediately. Award rangers the title and reinstate Hearts. Doncaster must resign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Saints Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 Since when do the club handle NI contributions for the catering staff? The club must have dozens of commercial agreements in place such as security, advertising, property maintenance, ticket sales, etcI've no idea the terms of these contracts. Does the article say SMFC haven't paid NI or PAYE, I never read it that way. In connection with non payment in relation to contracts and sub contracts was the wording. It could be that a contractor hasn't been paying. Once you start using sub contractors it's difficult to keep track of everything. Obviously if the allegation is SMFC have not been paying NI or PAYE then it probably rules out a contracted out service but I'm not sure that is the case. We are all just speculating here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bud the Baker said: Possibly coincidental but the club's annual financial report is normally sent out to shareholders towards the end of November, I enquired about it being overdue yesterday and was told the club was unsure when it would be made available - ties in with us (our auditors) noticing something wrong & telling the polis. That was my thoughts too. I'd imagine from the timing of the Kibble involvement tail end of last year, this is their first involvement with the annual accounts, so it may have been flagged during that process. The club must not trust anyone if they have had to make it public themselves so they can avoid speculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyond our ken Posted December 2, 2020 Report Share Posted December 2, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ayrshire Saints said: I've no idea the terms of these contracts. Does the article say SMFC haven't paid NI or PAYE, I never read it that way. In connection with non payment in relation to contracts and sub contracts was the wording. It could be that a contractor hasn't been paying. Once you start using sub contractors it's difficult to keep track of everything. Obviously if the allegation is SMFC have not been paying NI or PAYE then it probably rules out a contracted out service but I'm not sure that is the case. We are all just speculating here. "It is understood that amongst the areas being focussed on are several commercial agreements, sub-contract arrangments and potential non-payment of PAYE (Pay As You Earn) and National Insurance." We can only have an interest in the PAYE/NI of our own employees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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