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1 hour ago, linwood bud said:

I would like us to go for templeton, just released by accies and scored 9 goals in top flight, good replacement for Morgan in my opinion

Is this an indication of the scam earlier in the season at Accies  where they released Donati to save wages., Crawford has gone and now Templeton who was  a game changer for them. 

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1 hour ago, Mid Calder Saint said:

Difficult to bring new players in until the gaffer decides where he wants to be.

It's not, nor should it be.

Gaffer gives chief exec a list of transfer targets to go out and speak to and as far as I'm aware, that's the plan Tony is sticking to.

It's a situation where if Jack Ross and SMFC hold off and he doesn't get the Ipswich job, then most of his targets will already be away elsewhere and both his and the club's plans for the new season are goosed.

At the end of the day, I'm happy with us pressing ahead with contract talks for new players at present. This league is cutthroat as it is, there's no point in giving every other club a 3 or 4 week jump start on us. Of course, if Jack does go, then that changes everything and I'd imagine signing are on hold but whilst he's St. Mirren manager, he'll continue to do his duties as such.

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9 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

It's not, nor should it be.

Gaffer gives chief exec a list of transfer targets to go out and speak to and as far as I'm aware, that's the plan Tony is sticking to.

It's a situation where if Jack Ross and SMFC hold off and he doesn't get the Ipswich job, then most of his targets will already be away elsewhere and both his and the club's plans for the new season are goosed.

At the end of the day, I'm happy with us pressing ahead with contract talks for new players at present. This league is cutthroat as it is, there's no point in giving every other club a 3 or 4 week jump start on us. Of course, if Jack does go, then that changes everything and I'd imagine signing are on hold but whilst he's St. Mirren manager, he'll continue to do his duties as such.

Of course it is,  if you are a player coming in why would you sign for a club when you dont know who you will be playing under ?  Who knows , a player may find a situation where he has just signed a two year deal thinking he will be playing under manager A then finds he is going to be playing for Manager B who froze him out at a previous club.

From a management point of view , Any manager worth his salt wants to put his own stamp on things, our own situation post Rae when JR took over is a prime example.

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1 hour ago, Callum Gilhooley said:

Of course it is,  if you are a player coming in why would you sign for a club when you dont know who you will be playing under ?  Who knows , a player may find a situation where he has just signed a two year deal thinking he will be playing under manager A then finds he is going to be playing for Manager B who froze him out at a previous club.

From a management point of view , Any manager worth his salt wants to put his own stamp on things, our own situation post Rae when JR took over is a prime example.

I may be wrong but is it not the club that pays the wages and who the players play for (and fans)? Yes, a manager can entice certain players but in the end all managers can leave before or during a season. Does that mean every player he signed would want to leave too if he moved or was sacked?  I want Jack to stay but he will likely leave sooner than later and we need to bring players in who want to play for the club regardless of who our manager is.

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10 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

It's not, nor should it be.

Gaffer gives chief exec a list of transfer targets to go out and speak to and as far as I'm aware, that's the plan Tony is sticking to.

It's a situation where if Jack Ross and SMFC hold off and he doesn't get the Ipswich job, then most of his targets will already be away elsewhere and both his and the club's plans for the new season are goosed.

At the end of the day, I'm happy with us pressing ahead with contract talks for new players at present. This league is cutthroat as it is, there's no point in giving every other club a 3 or 4 week jump start on us. Of course, if Jack does go, then that changes everything and I'd imagine signing are on hold but whilst he's St. Mirren manager, he'll continue to do his duties as such.

Perhaps - but it hardly helps the situation.

The uncertainty has a disruptive effect on the players as the 4-1 thumping against Livingstone demonstrated last season.

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10 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Perhaps - but it hardly helps the situation.

The uncertainty has a disruptive effect on the players as the 4-1 thumping against Livingstone demonstrated last season.

Ok the BOD can make it all go away and the Scottish Manager of the Year can commit to Saints

 

Pay him £400k a year as long as he commits to 2 years........................ do u think that will happen?

 

 

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42 minutes ago, northstbuddie said:

Perhaps - but it hardly helps the situation.

The uncertainty has a disruptive effect on the players as the 4-1 thumping against Livingstone demonstrated last season.

I've seen a few folk mention that, but I don't buy it at all.

Livingston played well that day and as they have proven beyond doubt they are no mugs. We fell apart for a 15 minute spell in the match and they capitalised on that and scored 3 goals which put the match out of sight for us. We chased the game second half and were unlucky not to get back into it before losing the final goal.

After that game we we then went unbeaten in our next six games including five wins, a run that ultimately won us the title.

I agree that uncertainty around his future will potentially spook new signings but the reality is that until something changes Jack remains our manager and is working hard to prepare for next season.

Having watched his presser yesterday I'm actually a bit less convinced that he's going to go to Ipswich. It's the most positive I've been about the situation.

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33 minutes ago, DougJamie said:

Ok the BOD can make it all go away and the Scottish Manager of the Year can commit to Saints

 

Pay him £400k a year as long as he commits to 2 years........................ do u think that will happen?

 

 

How long can/should we continue with this uncertainty then?

If it's not Ipswich some other club will follow within a few months if not weeks.

Perhaps the Board in Alex Ferguson's time called it correctly and took the initiative. We then had one of our most successful periods (several seasons) under the management of Jim Clunie and then Rikki McFarlane.

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21 minutes ago, div said:

I've seen a few folk mention that, but I don't buy it at all.

Livingston played well that day and as they have proven beyond doubt they are no mugs. We fell apart for a 15 minute spell in the match and they capitalised on that and scored 3 goals which put the match out of sight for us. We chased the game second half and were unlucky not to get back into it before losing the final goal.

After that game we we then went unbeaten in our next six games including five wins, a run that ultimately won us the title.

I agree that uncertainty around his future will potentially spook new signings but the reality is that until something changes Jack remains our manager and is working hard to prepare for next season.

Having watched his presser yesterday I'm actually a bit less convinced that he's going to go to Ipswich. It's the most positive I've been about the situation.

Agree Div.  Maybe some forget we gifted them their first goal when Baird and Sammy made a mess of a nothing situation. Two quick goals after that killed it but we had all the play in the second half and were unlucky not to pull a couple back before they scored a 4th right at the death.

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How long can/should we continue with this uncertainty then?
If it's not Ipswich some other club will follow within a few months if not weeks.
Perhaps the Board in Alex Ferguson's time called it correctly and took the initiative. We then had one of our most successful periods (several seasons) under the management of Jim Clunie and then Rikki McFarlane.
As Fergie himself proved time and time again through his career no-one is bigger than the club maybe he learnt that from us.

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23 hours ago, div said:

I've seen a few folk mention that, but I don't buy it at all.

Livingston played well that day and as they have proven beyond doubt they are no mugs. We fell apart for a 15 minute spell in the match and they capitalised on that and scored 3 goals which put the match out of sight for us. We chased the game second half and were unlucky not to get back into it before losing the final goal.

After that game we we then went unbeaten in our next six games including five wins, a run that ultimately won us the title.

I agree that uncertainty around his future will potentially spook new signings but the reality is that until something changes Jack remains our manager and is working hard to prepare for next season.

Having watched his presser yesterday I'm actually a bit less convinced that he's going to go to Ipswich. It's the most positive I've been about the situation.

I agree.  Jack and the players could and can handle it.  Fans?  Maybe not so much.  Tough game football and tough being a football fan for most if not all clubs. IMO

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On 15/05/2018 at 9:01 AM, Callum Gilhooley said:

Of course it is,  if you are a player coming in why would you sign for a club when you dont know who you will be playing under ?  Who knows , a player may find a situation where he has just signed a two year deal thinking he will be playing under manager A then finds he is going to be playing for Manager B who froze him out at a previous club.

From a management point of view , Any manager worth his salt wants to put his own stamp on things, our own situation post Rae when JR took over is a prime example.

Sounds like Rory Loy

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Really frustrated at the lack of activity on this thread. Not even as much as a whisper on some days.  I know many players contracts don't expire til the end of May, but surely there's some noise out there. The sooner the manager situation is sorted out the better.

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24 minutes ago, turrabuddie said:

Really frustrated at the lack of activity on this thread. Not even as much as a whisper on some days.  I know many players contracts don't expire til the end of May, but surely there's some noise out there. The sooner the manager situation is sorted out the better.

JR plays his cards close to his chest when it comes to signing players. We often don't get a sniff in advance.

That said....

Gie's a signing!

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10 minutes ago, elvis said:

Halket? 

Aye, I'd take that.

We were also linked with Josh Mullin at Christmas as well, but he went off the boil in the second half of the season. Scored a decent goal against the Arabs, right enough.

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