pod Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Wendy Saintss said: Regarding Cotterill, what I don’t understand is how professional football players let themselves get out of shape. Too many curry's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 TBH , re Cotterill , unless there's some other reason we're not being told about , I would have signed him , whether we had to wait a month on him or not. He's a quality player , would have given us width and a dead ball threat. Waiting one month on him is better than waiting 3 months on the window surely ! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 hours ago, billyg said: TBH , re Cotterill , unless there's some other reason we're not being told about , I would have signed him , whether we had to wait a month on him or not. He's a quality player , would have given us width and a dead ball threat. Waiting one month on him is better than waiting 3 months on the window surely ! We don't know the full story as you suggest. Perhaps he was looking for silly money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Ricky Posted September 23, 2018 Report Share Posted September 23, 2018 16 hours ago, billyg said: TBH , re Cotterill , unless there's some other reason we're not being told about , I would have signed him , whether we had to wait a month on him or not. He's a quality player , would have given us width and a dead ball threat. Waiting one month on him is better than waiting 3 months on the window surely ! Got to trust the manager on this. Might have been easy to say yes but regret it later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo_smfc Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/20/2018 at 4:23 PM, Hendo said: But it was Stubbs who preferred most of these players to Heaton and he didn't have a clue. Yes. OK brought in Ferdinand, but Heaton is currently injured and not available for selection. Have to agree. It's unfair that some are already writing off Heaton and Cooke with us, despite only seeing a short run out of them. Players have to adapt to a different level and some react quicker than others. Heaton has been injured and from what i believe not up to speed in terms of fitness prior to this. Cooke has also been injured and possibly finding it a little difficult to get up to speed. We are so short in numbers due to injuries now. No disrespect to Kirkpatrick, though off the back of last season, I didn't think he would be anywhere near the team this season. Is that possibly down to hard work or us being down to short numbers in midfield now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossCSmfc Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 On 9/22/2018 at 7:29 AM, Wendy Saintss said: Regarding Cotterill, what I don’t understand is how professional football players let themselves get out of shape. Since his last club, the guy would have had so much time on his hands go get himself fit. Highlights a bad attitude and poor work ethic IMO. I guess if he was fit though and had a good attitude he’d have been nowhere near us and be with a Championship club right now! He's been in the press recently about him going through depression. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, kevo_smfc said: Have to agree. It's unfair that some are already writing off Heaton and Cooke with us, despite only seeing a short run out of them. Players have to adapt to a different level and some react quicker than others. Heaton has been injured and from what i believe not up to speed in terms of fitness prior to this. Cooke has also been injured and possibly finding it a little difficult to get up to speed. We are so short in numbers due to injuries now. No disrespect to Kirkpatrick, though off the back of last season, I didn't think he would be anywhere near the team this season. Is that possibly down to hard work or us being down to short numbers in midfield now? Kirkpatrick played well against Killie in the first game of the season, before picking up an injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, RossCSmfc said: He's been in the press recently about him going through depression. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45579754 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 23 hours ago, Drew said: We don't know the full story as you suggest. Perhaps he was looking for silly money? I don't know anything about the player, what shape he is in, any injuries he has had which may have slowed him down or hampered his mobility, or indeed any external issues which may affect him, but I'd sign him anyway... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, FTOF said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45579754 He has clearly had a hard time. I do however wish we had taken a chance and given the lad backing. This could have been a fit for both club and player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenstrieSaint Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, FTOF said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45579754 I would take a chance , maybe focus the deal on having support for his problems in place and ensuring his family stay in a place that allows him a good quality of life. As has often been said , if a quality player is available to a club like St Mirren , there is often an issue with the player that makes him available . That said , I don,t know how much quality he showed when he was training with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Rumour on P & B that we have a striker with a decent scoring record in England on trial. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class of 76-77 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Hendo said: Rumour on P & B that we have a striker with a decent scoring record in England on trial. International experience and he’s played in the English championship and scored the winning goal in the championship play off final a few years ago. As with all free agents his level of fitness will probably dictate where he is in terms of match fitness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Vaz te ? Edited September 24, 2018 by billyg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethal89 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 He was terrible in his spell with Hibs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munoz Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 25 minutes ago, Lethal89 said: He was terrible in his spell with Hibs Don't think it's him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Hasn't played up here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrappy coco Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, billyg said: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Vaz te ? It's got to be him, unless Bobby Zamora fancies making a comeback... Unless he's getting the Championship and League one playoffs mixed up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyg Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) The plot thickens. Only players out of contract (possibly) who have not played up here and scored Play-off winners in the last 10 years are Zamora (retired)and Taylor-Fletcher (Marl Yardley's shorts). Zamora is a close friend of Ferdinand , has business ties with him and Rio ! Edited September 24, 2018 by billyg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM1 Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Do we maybe have two on trial, with one of them being big Ricky Vaz Te? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, JM1 said: Do we maybe have two on trial, with one of them being big Ricky Vaz Te? According to wiki he has a club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maboza Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Was it the Championship play-off (to get into the EPL) as opposed to the League 1 play-off to get in to the Championship? Bloody cryptic clues!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ok, I have now prioritised trying to find out who the mystery striker is over finishing a report at work, and can exclusively reveal he doesn't exist. There is no striker who scored the winner in either a championship or league 1 play off final in England, since 2008, with international experience and who is also a free agent and isn't retired. So, either someone is telling porkies or the internet is broken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Blair Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 In no way is this to be taken as racist, it's just a wee synonymic clue to the mystery trialist. clickety click. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isle Of Bute Saint Posted September 24, 2018 Report Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eric Arthur Blair said: In no way is this to be taken as racist, it's just a wee synonymic clue to the mistery trialist. clickety click. Good grief what are you hinting at ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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