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2 hours ago, mattman said:

Right the b&w army twitter accounts getting me awfy excited, possible signing today ? Someone gees the goss please 😂😂

Don't know what twitter account you were reading. 

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Allegedly Cammy Smith is free to leave Dundee Utd. 

I await the cries of 'bring him home' from the usual suspects, despite the fact that he is nowhere near good enough for the premier league. 

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48 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Allegedly Cammy Smith is free to leave Dundee Utd. 

I await the cries of 'bring him home' from the usual suspects, despite the fact that he is nowhere near good enough for the premier league. 

TBH the mess we're in Will Smith would be welcome. 

No so sure about Harrison Ford right enough. 

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Allegedly Cammy Smith is free to leave Dundee Utd. 

I await the cries of 'bring him home' from the usual suspects, despite the fact that he is nowhere near good enough for the premier league. 

 

Weren’t you one of the usual suspects having a meltdown last season when Stubbs wanted to let him go?.......

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Isle Of Bute Saint said:

I'm not sure Isma is the answer to our striker problems yes he is a cult hero and will always be remembered.  

Is he better than what we have? Yes he is.

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1 hour ago, Wendy Saintss said:

 

Weren’t you one of the usual suspects having a meltdown last season when Stubbs wanted to let him go?....... emoji1.pngemoji12.png

 

 

Well, meltdown is a bit strong, but yes.... but hear me out. 😉

I was and am happy for any player to move on as long as who comes in is of better standard. I've always said that, I also reiterated that with regards to Gary Mac, Eckersley etc last season. No issue with them moving on but guys replacing them have to be better. 

I didn't believe that we should have let Smith go at the point Stubbs decided he could be cut free as who was left and who was brought in as replacements such as Jeff King, looked far inferior and as if they weren't up to the task. I felt his consistency in the Championship merited at least a shot to prove himself at this level and ultimately, he failed to impress. 

Following that though, his time was clearly up in January, we had already replaced him with Adam Hammill and Simon Jackson who covered two positions better than Cammy could (although Hammill then moved on) so it was time for him to go. At that point there was still plenty of discontent but absolutely no angst, wailing or teeth gnashing from me in regards to the decision to move him on. 

 

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5 minutes ago, elvis said:

I don't think he really got much of a chance last season. 

Anytime I seen him I thought he looked out his depth, bit like Stewart Kean did in the top league.

Hes a player who suits quick attacking play, something we just don’t offer at the mo.

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Well, meltdown is a bit strong, but yes.... but hear me out.
I was and am happy for any player to move on as long as who comes in is of better standard. I've always said that, I also reiterated that with regards to Gary Mac, Eckersley etc last season. No issue with them moving on but guys replacing them have to be better. 
I didn't believe that we should have let Smith go at the point Stubbs decided he could be cut free as who was left and who was brought in as replacements such as Jeff King, looked far inferior and as if they weren't up to the task. I felt his consistency in the Championship merited at least a shot to prove himself at this level and ultimately, he failed to impress. 
Following that though, his time was clearly up in January, we had already replaced him with Adam Hammill and Simon Jackson who covered two positions better than Cammy could (although Hammill then moved on) so it was time for him to go. At that point there was still plenty of discontent but absolutely no angst, wailing or teeth gnashing from me in regards to the decision to move him on. 
 


To be fair to Stubbs though, he didn’t actually let him go. IIRC, he was trying to get Gregg Stewart in at the time he wanted to offload Smith.

But, like this season, actually getting in top quality proved to be quite difficult.....

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Anytime I seen him I thought he looked out his depth, bit like Stewart Kean did in the top league.
Hes a player who suits quick attacking play, something we just don’t offer at the mo.
Agree, but maybe it's also about the ability of the manager to play people in their natural position and get the most out of players - some are more successful than orhers, and with some players more than others.

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20 minutes ago, turrabuddie said:
53 minutes ago, mattman said:
Anytime I seen him I thought he looked out his depth, bit like Stewart Kean did in the top league.
Hes a player who suits quick attacking play, something we just don’t offer at the mo.

Agree, but maybe it's also about the ability of the manager to play people in their natural position and get the most out of players - some are more successful than orhers, and with some players more than others.

I think he only can work in an extremely mobile strike force, and benefitted from defenders being occupied with Morgan and the movement of Reilly.

That gave him so much space to create or find pockets, as he’s quite poor pace wise over 5-10 yards.

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3 hours ago, Wendy Saintss said:

 

Weren’t you one of the usual suspects having a meltdown last season when Stubbs wanted to let him go?....... emoji1.pngemoji12.png

 

 

On the very few occasions he played in the hole rather than wide, he looked ok. Out wide he was useless. I think the same thing happened at DU 

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1 hour ago, mattman said:

Anytime I seen him I thought he looked out his depth, bit like Stewart Kean did in the top league.

Hes a player who suits quick attacking play, something we just don’t offer at the mo.

You could say that about all our strikers, this year and last 

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45 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said:

 


To be fair to Stubbs though, he didn’t actually let him go. IIRC, he was trying to get Gregg Stewart in at the time he wanted to offload Smith.

But, like this season, actually getting in top quality proved to be quite difficult.....

 

Thing is though, he apparently had Greg Stewart there to bring in and plumped for Brock-Madsen before him. :lol:

Had he actually brought Stewart in and THEN punted Smith, it would have been a lot more palatable than what was being attempted. 

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Thing is though, he apparently had Greg Stewart there to bring in and plumped for Brock-Madsen before him. :lol:
Had he actually brought Stewart in and THEN punted Smith, it would have been a lot more palatable than what was being attempted. 


If that is true then it was obviously a disaster.

However, IIRC, we signed BM and I can can them remember an article where BM was urging Stewart to join him.

But he chose Kilmarnock instead.

I believe that Stewart simply chose Kilmarnock over us.

Like last season, it’s proving very difficult to get in decent players.

The real big miss for me was Stubbs not going on to sign Halkett from Livi and signing Heaton instead FFS.

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5 minutes ago, Wendy Saintss said:

 


If that is true then it was obviously a disaster.

However, IIRC, we signed BM and I can can them remember an article where BM was urging Stewart to join him.

But he chose Kilmarnock instead.

I believe that Stewart simply chose Kilmarnock over us.

Like last season, it’s proving very difficult to get in decent players.

The real big miss for me was Stubbs not going on to sign Halkett from Livi and signing Heaton instead FFS.

 

We could have given Halkett the 75k as a signing on fee and it would still have made a massive amount more sense. Big error, that one.

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